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**SidCoronel** · May 29th, 2019 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by Echusen

Boss hindi pasok sa budget.ko ang Jazz.

Re: sitting position... Maybe you should make sure that you are positioned correctly, before you "blame it" on the car?

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**Wave24/7** · May 29th, 2019 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by travajante

Many are now equipped w/ the Ooops-it's-too-late idiot light. OBD gauges are your workaround....They tell & do more.

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Nice. I'd like to have more data in front of me, but sometimes you just want to have a quick glance on the dashboard to make sure that the needle is tad in middle.

**GTi** · May 29th, 2019 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by Echusen

Boss hindi pasok sa budget.ko ang Jazz.

Jazz and City are basically the same car, sir. Exterior design lang pinagkaiba.

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**GTi** · May 29th, 2019 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by travajante

Many are now equipped w/ the Ooops-it's-too-late idiot light. OBD gauges are your workaround....They tell & do more.

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It seems that most of the cars the TS is looking at do not have temp gauges anymore. I think this is why it became popular for Vios cab drivers to drive with their hoods unlatched, apparently for better air circulation.

Had no idea OBD gauges can still tell exact temperature even though the car doesn't have the gauge anymore though. I have one in my 07 Santa Fe, which has no MID. The fuel consumption meter is not right at all. It just goes up or down depending on my pedal input.

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**Wave24/7** · May 29th, 2019 03:21 PM

Yeah, there must be a coolant temperature sensor to sense the temperature and report it to the computer. I'm not sure if Brios have one as they don't have a gauge.

**dr. d** · May 29th, 2019 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by Wave24/7

Yeah, there must be a coolant temperature sensor to sense the temperature and report it to the computer. I'm not sure if Brios have one as they don't have a gauge.

googling,
it has an overheat warning icon...
so who's sending it the signal? the computer, or an independent temp sensor?

**Wave24/7** · May 29th, 2019 03:33 PM

oh an icon. lol

**travajante** · May 29th, 2019 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by dr. d

googling,
it has an overheat warning icon...
so who's sending it the signal? the computer, or an independent temp sensor?

The ECU needs all the sensors & signals. They are all there. Having no readable gauge has dealership advantages...no complaints from paranoia, & guaranteed heft of a service & repair bill from a popped idiot light. Not having any of that. All of ours are hooked w/ Scangauges. Peace of mind is priceless.

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**dr. d** · May 29th, 2019 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by travajante

The ECU needs all the sensors & signals. They are all there. Having no readable gauge has dealership advantages...no complaints from paranoia, & guaranteed heft of a service & repair bill from a popped idiot light. Not having any of that. All of ours are hooked w/ Scangauges. Peace of mind is priceless.

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"ignorance is bliss", according to the oldies.
heh heh.

**GTi** · May 29th, 2019 04:48 PM

I wonder who it was that had the very bright idea of replacing temp gauges with idiot lights. Right now, I think all mainstream brands are following this practice with their A and B segment offerings, though the Koreans seem to be reintroducing the temp gauge in their smaller cars as seen in the Soluto.

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