orig owner can't be found HELP

[kenzie]

hi peeps may dilema yung friend ko nakabili sya ng car ... kaso nga yung ID ng orignal owner expired na and wala na sa dating tirahan( tried going and the new house owner doesnt have a forwarding adress) ... ano ba posible steps na pede pa nyang gawin para ma trnasfer sa pangalan nya yun car.. thanks po

[ghosthunter]

Maybe you can computer edit the copy of the ID with you to make it look like it hasn't expired yet?

[kenzie]

Maybe you can computer edit the copy of the ID with you to make it look like it hasn't expired yet?

that was the advice of some of our friends as well, but my friend (car buyer) said the Muntinlupa LTO was very strict that he doesnt wanna risk being jailed for fabricating the ID ....

any more inputs guys? thanks

[v6dreamer]

If the seller sign the title when he sold the car in order for your friend to get it transferred into his name, why would he need the ID's seller for? If he have all the proper ducument sign by the seller, I dont see any problem at all to transfer into his name.

[1D4LV]

If the seller sign the title when he sold the car in order for your friend to get it transferred into his name, why would he need the ID's seller for? If he have all the proper ducument sign by the seller, I dont see any problem at all to transfer into his name.

same idea here. if everything has been properly signed, including the deed of sale, and the papers are in order, like presence of original OR/CR, no need for the ID of the seller.

kung open yung DOS, medyo may problema ata.

[kenzie]

same idea here. if everything has been properly signed, including the deed of sale, and the papers are in order, like presence of original OR/CR, no need for the ID of the seller.

kung open yung DOS, medyo may problema ata.

it doesn't work that way bro .. according daw sa LTO kailangan kung kanino nakapangalan ung CR ay may valid ID at signature dapat.. lets say si PEDRO(seller) binenta yung kotse kay JUAN. si JUAN ngayon gusto na ilipat sa pangalan nya ung auto.. meron DOS si PEDRO(seller) at JUAN ang kaso nga lang yung photocopy ng ID ni PEDRO(seller) expired na... and si PEDRO(seller) hindi mahagilap .... that's the scenario ...

[jr63]

If the seller sign the title when he sold the car in order for your friend to get it transferred into his name, why would he need the ID's seller for? If he have all the proper ducument sign by the seller, I dont see any problem at all to transfer into his name.

i too agree with v6, what the use of the ID, if ung CR my signature ng former owner. Don't laugh now, but kailan pa nangailangan ng ID ang LTO for verification purposes eh lahat naman kung tutuusin natatamper na.
ganito kasi, 2nd hand din AUV ko, Deed Of Sale nya MAY, pero notarized before registration, thats AUGUST na, pagpunta ko LTO, sabi ko register and transfer ko in my name, sabi clearance lang from HPG tapos confirmation lang from LTO pasig, doon kasi naregister ng owner bago umuwi ng province. wait ko for a week then pagbalik ko pinasmoke na after a day CR nya bago na in my name na rin. kaya di ko malaman kung saan pumasok ung ID ng former owner.
ito bossing ang ginagawa ng friend ko na buy and sell kung tinatamad maglalakad ng mga papeles. kinakausap na nya ung chief ng LTO kung saan nya tatransfer ung CR/registration, my kunting gastos pero at least walang masyadong basag ng ulo. 2 weeks okey na.

[rst619]

Ganito lang kasi yan mga sirs. Ung sinasabi ko kasi, legal and by the book na proseso un. Tama kayo, konting pampadulas and konting hokus pokus kaya talagang gawin yan. Kaya lang ayaw naman nating diretsyahang ituro ung mali di ba?

Saka sa pagkakaalam ko walang pirma ang mga sinaunang CR a. lately na lang ung mga bagong format na CR ang meron.

Re uli sa ID, kelangan talaga sa pagverify un. think of it as a redundant security precaution.

[rst619]

Maybe you can computer edit the copy of the ID with you to make it look like it hasn't expired yet?

Bad yan

akala ko pa naman good boy ka GH

the deed of sale is a legal document, so by all means, it should be honored. what is the sense of the ID? tapos kung ID ng seller is expired? is it the fault of the buyer? is it his problem to locate the seller? if this is the case, then i would go for GH's suggestion to have the ID edited.

yes sir fault ng buyer kung expired ang ID na kasama sa DOS. For signature verification po kasi un. For all you know pineke pala ang DOS at walang consent ang me ari. In the first place po kasi hindi dapat problema ang pag locate sa buyer kung ipina-process kaagad ang transfer di po ba?

a suggestion too is to have an affidavit or something duly notarized stating that the seller cannot be found already. this can be presented to LTO, and is also a legal and sufficient document

eto po ang tama. "affidavit of warranty" po yata ang tawag dito IIRC

[kenzie]

eto po ang tama. "affidavit of warranty" po yata ang tawag dito IIRC

ok now we're talking, "affidavit of warranty" nga ba tawag dun? anybody here can shed some light on this matter ....

hindi nailaipat agad sa name nung buyer yung auto kse nag trabaho abroad biglaan yung opportunity kaya umalis ng hindi pa naililipat yung name sa buyer ....

sabi ng friend ko BAKAL na kamay daw ang kailangan sa LTO muntinlupa mahigpit daw yung pinaka CHIEF (babae daw) hindi daw nagpapa ubra basta basta ng wala sa tamang proseso ..... hindi rin pede ilipat sa ibang LTO dahil yung CR sa muntinlupa naka register so lahat ng mother files ay dun naka file at dun dapat i process ang transfer ... thanks for all your inputs ... baka meron dyan may same experience speak up po

[Galactus]

Re: affidavit of warranty, sa mga LTO district offices, may mga notaryo dun na may ready-made (template) na nun. Fill-in the blanks na lang, and it may cost 150 - 300 petot.

[kenzie]

Re: affidavit of warranty, sa mga LTO district offices, may mga notaryo dun na may ready-made (template) na nun. Fill-in the blanks na lang, and it may cost 150 - 300 petot.

hi Galactus .... thanks for your reply ... affidavit of Warranty will it cover the issue regarding the ID of the name under the CR being not valid (expired) ?

also what else needs to presented aside from the copy of the expired ID to apply for affidavit of warranty?

thanks for your time