new grad looking 2nd hand car

[mike01]

it's not that durable sir. saka recon ang engine nyan.

well what else do you expect for a budget of 200k? a brand new car car with brand new engine?

all 2nd hand cars have questionable history if bought from unknown sources.. you would most probably spend more on engine replacement and reconditioning the engine yourself..

http://www.cebuliving.com/david/phot...yFirst_new.JPG

how come there are filipinos who think just like you?

[russpogi]

Bakit ngayon ko lang nakita tong thread na to... heheh!

Anyways, if you want a car, EK Civic or AE101 is my best bet bro! Or, we can still go with the FX!

Again, it all depends on you bro. Tama mga sabi ni orly_andico dito: (let me highlight on certain things):

A car is one of the worst money sinks you can get into, it's not an investment at all.

Tama!

For me the safety is a huge thing.

Same with me. I prefer to drive than commute, except if I'm going to school or work since it's near my house.

Have to add.. cars are emotional.... If transportation is all you want, then a Kia Pride (used) or a Hyundai Getz (new) is perfect, and friendly for the environment too.

It also depends on what you'd like to project to compliment yourself. With my personality, I should be driving an H1 or a Patrol but I'd rather drive a Hyundai Getz around the city because I'm not concerned about what people would think of me and my car. What's important for me is that I could safely go around the city without spending so much on fuel. Gets?

If your car is a Kia Pride or a Honda Jazz and does 12km/L you only spend 30K/year on fuel. That adds up. But it's still way cheaper than what you'd spend on maintenance.

Exactly my point.

[orly_andico]

There was something wrong with my last point quoted above..

I meant to say, even with a thrifty (on fuel) vehicle like a Jazz or Getz, you will spend far more on fuel, than on maintenance. Not less. Example, the Jazz maintenance interval is 10,000 km, cost maybe 5,000 pesos.

So you only spend 5,000 a year on periodic maintenance, but you spend 30,000 up for fuel.

So the largest part of the cost of ownership is really the fuel. So even though in terms of second-hand cars the mid-ranged ones look temptingly cheap, avoid them, simply because they guzzle fuel.

But the other posters' point is also correct: regardless of brand, be it Toyota, Honda, or what-not, a second-hand car will have issues. Tons of issues, eventually. And if you're not handy around the car, various repair shops and facilities will gleefully take all your money.

With a limited budget, image aside, I'd really go with the Kia Pride. That's if all you need is basic, cheap transportation. Unfortunately the image gets in the way.. and most people are not practical when it comes to cars because they are emotional. But you can't get everything, more so with a limited budget.

[alwayz_yummy]

mura yang mira na yan(norkis legacy-->not to be confused with subaru legacy!

about sa recon engine, mas ok nga yan, kilalang company ang norkis...atleast may habol ka..its just like a new..

[saintmichel]

ic ic.. tnx bros.. i've been reading up these past few weeks nga e anything about autos pero shempre lahat yun theoretical palang and yung mga ibang friends ko na nagpapa advice sakin hindi rin ganon ka immersed sa car world kaya puro notions lang nakukuha ko (like toyota easy maintenance, honda mahal).. kaya i want to see the practical side of things ren

ah nahirapan ako bro sa pajero kasi well mahal sya.. meron sana ako naktang magndang deal 2000 model tas 290k lang haha kaso sold na! tsk. meron naman isa nagoofer sakin tempting kaso auko umm parang may nag paayos daw ng pajero sa kanila kaso d na binalikan.. gets haha pano kaya papers nun?

yeah hindi naman ako ganon ka conscious rin sa ride ko i mean come on ride mo yun e kaya and agree ako na konti lang mararating ng 200k na budget... kaya nga napaisip ako if ever kia pride kaya kunin ko pimp-able kaya yun? hahahaha

oi russpogi! i want to see parin ung modded na fx! pix naman jan.. inspire me

sa ngayon yung pinaka nakuha kong advices is for fuel tipidness get matic and a fuel efficient engine(ano po ba definition nun or how to spot one?),, then low mileage (tho mejo mahirap ata to)..

[saintmichel]

follow up question mga bros.. kasi cinonsider ko rin talga ung pajero.. til now iniisip ko siguro kung may makta akong candidate na swak sa budge.. pero napansin ko lang kasi bakit halos laht ng mgakta kong cars ngayon gas? nag phphase out na ba ang diesel? tnx sirs ignorance is bliss but knowledge is power ika nga ni ka ernie

[kimpOy]

how about a Nissan Sentra Exalta...yung first version...


(apologies to the daxmanio http://www.cardomain.com/ride/417303 )

siguro naman mura na lang to

or Ford Linx


both are value over money...

[s0nnyb0y]

Im selling my 96 civic vti maybe you would like to give me an offer
http://buyandsellplus.com/itempage.php?itemid=94562

[russpogi]

There was something wrong with my last point quoted above..

I meant to say, even with a thrifty (on fuel) vehicle like a Jazz or Getz, you will spend far more on fuel, than on maintenance. Not less. Example, the Jazz maintenance interval is 10,000 km, cost maybe 5,000 pesos.

So you only spend 5,000 a year on periodic maintenance, but you spend 30,000 up for fuel.

So the largest part of the cost of ownership is really the fuel. So even though in terms of second-hand cars the mid-ranged ones look temptingly cheap, avoid them, simply because they guzzle fuel.

But the other posters' point is also correct: regardless of brand, be it Toyota, Honda, or what-not, a second-hand car will have issues. Tons of issues, eventually. And if you're not handy around the car, various repair shops and facilities will gleefully take all your money.

With a limited budget, image aside, I'd really go with the Kia Pride. That's if all you need is basic, cheap transportation. Unfortunately the image gets in the way.. and most people are not practical when it comes to cars because they are emotional. But you can't get everything, more so with a limited budget.

Sorry po! Mejo antok na ko nun eh! hehehe! But I think saintmichael get's the point!

[LexTer]

well what else do you expect for a budget of 200k? a brand new car car with brand new engine?

all 2nd hand cars have questionable history if bought from unknown sources.. you would most probably spend more on engine replacement and reconditioning the engine yourself..

http://www.cebuliving.com/david/phot...yFirst_new.JPG

how come there are filipinos who think just like you?

there are some brands/makes ng 2nd hand cars that wont give you so much problems specially when it come to parts. 200k is not a bad budget (if you know how to choose). this is a friendly thread. next time please dont attact a poster directly. how come there are filipinos like you? tsk tsk tsk

[LexTer]

dalawang kapitbahay namin bumili nito. ngayon dami na problema. samantalang yung ibang kakilala ko na bumili ng 2nd hand cars up to now ok pa. my point is, just be careful in choosing a car. konsulta ka sa magaling na mechanic.

[rion]

this is the small nissan car I mentioned pala...



saw this mini cooper like when I visited Cebu Sm. price tag was 160k...

medyo nakakatakot lang, di pa siguro marami parts nito sa banaue...

[alwayz_yummy]

rion > thats a nissan march! ang pinaka local na nilabas dito nyan is ung classically-style nissan march called 'verita'...

saint > if you can strech it say 100-150K more, you can get a brand-new indian made suzuki alto from a suzuki dealer mismo. may 2 year 100k kms warranty ka pa!

mahal pa ang exalta (series 3 body/gen1), say 250-300K. magandang makuhang lynx are those 2000 models pataas, iba na ung face...

about sa pride > alam ko may local kia pride club dito sa atin and/or sa protegetech.. most kia prides kasi are dressed as sleepers not flashy like you see everyday(the rice cars w/ kulahan wings,ekek)

nakita ko may query kang vitara sa 4x4ph... pero link kita sa swak sa budget mo...tawaran mo pa...(click mo yung link sa embed sa 'vitara')

kung ok sayo 3-door na vit->
matic
manual

eto tanong mo ang asking->
http://tsikot.yehey.com/auto-classif...&cat=25&page=1

[Syuryuken]

Nissan Sentre Series 3 or Mazda Familia or Tamaraw FX

[mike01]

konti lang mararating ng 200k na budget... kaya nga napaisip ako if ever kia pride kaya kunin ko pimp-able kaya yun? hahahaha

oi russpogi! i want to see parin ung modded na fx! pix naman jan.. inspire me

sa ngayon yung pinaka nakuha kong advices is for fuel tipidness get matic and a fuel efficient engine(ano po ba definition nun or how to spot one?),, then low mileage (tho mejo mahirap ata to)..

ok na yang 200k na budget.. mataas na actually yan as long as you get a basic car that runs.. wag mo muna unahin 'pimping' car.. bago paganda, i reserve mo muna yung pera mo sa pa repair..

dati ganyan din ako..mas obsessed pa ako sa yo.. i had 300k before and sa toyota casa ako mismo nagpunta, ....hehehe.. nag i inquire ng brand new car.. pero so far di naman natuloy, ginamit ko na lang pera ko sa investment na tumataas ang value..

well up to now wala pa din akong kotse..pero wala pa din naman akong sakit ng ulo at gastos.. may pera pa din ako..

actually sa panahon ngayon madaming manloloko, kaya every transaction natin after pagbili ng kotse andyan na yung napakadaming gastos.. bayad sa kotong cops, parking, car wash, repair, gas, insurance,

hay naku sakit ulo!

[saintmichel]

ofcourse naman understood na yung repairs after. isa yun sa first order of things to do ko once may makuha na ako e . full check up full tune up. the works kaya nga 200k lang ang cap na gnawa ko kasi naisip ko anything less would cost more sa repairs so parang ganon rin ginastos ko atleast sa 200k mataas ang chance na magnda parin ang quality kahit may wear and tear.
tas from there i'll improve it from the engine out nalang.

kumbaga im thinking lang yung possiblity na pag ayos na lahat pimpable nga ba gets.. ahha.. pwede naman mangarap e. he he. tsaka im not talking about the uber pimp ha.. yung tipong mgandang sounds lang masaya na ako hahaha!! babaw.

yeah i've been considering ren the vitara! ganda tho gusto ko ung 4 door e. nakta ko na rin yang vitara 95 kaso haanp pa ako

sa ngayon eto yung mga nakta kong candidates per brand per model

nissan - n/a
toyota - corolla altis - pero la pa candidate
honda - city type z 2000(or kung may makta akong civic na magnda)
mitsu - hanap ako ng pajero dito haha may nakta akong 270k tawaran ko pa sana kaso sold na pala
kia - sportage kasooo yun nga takot ako sa quality ng sportage been reading a lot of bad things about it
mazda - wala pa kaso feeling ko mahal dito haha
suzuki - the vitara 95 tho may isang nag offer sakin kaso 2 door

anyway so basta ang isang series ng kotse ay 5 years old na mataas ang chance na madali na makahanap ng parts etc sa kanya for maintenance? ic thats a nice thing to know. gusto ko kasi makta yung projection ko for the money na iseset aside ko dito e. like i said d naman sya for hardcore drive more city driving(hatid parents) occasional na out of town(ie baguio) at d ko gagamitin papnta work.

wow mukhang magnda yang verita na yan a

[mike01]

ofcourse naman understood na yung repairs after. isa yun sa first order of things to do ko once may makuha na ako e . full check up full tune up. the works kaya nga 200k lang ang cap na gnawa ko kasi naisip ko anything less would cost more sa repairs so parang ganon rin ginastos ko atleast sa 200k mataas ang chance na magnda parin ang quality kahit may wear and tear.
tas from there i'll improve it from the engine out nalang.

kumbaga im thinking lang yung possiblity na pag ayos na lahat pimpable nga ba gets.. ahha.. pwede naman mangarap e. he he. tsaka im not talking about the uber pimp ha.. yung tipong mgandang sounds lang masaya na ako hahaha!! babaw.

yeah i've been considering ren the vitara! ganda tho gusto ko ung 4 door e. nakta ko na rin yang vitara 95 kaso haanp pa ako

sa ngayon eto yung mga nakta kong candidates per brand per model

nissan - n/a
toyota - corolla altis - pero la pa candidate
honda - city type z 2000(or kung may makta akong civic na magnda)
mitsu - hanap ako ng pajero dito haha may nakta akong 270k tawaran ko pa sana kaso sold na pala
kia - sportage kasooo yun nga takot ako sa quality ng sportage been reading a lot of bad things about it
mazda - wala pa kaso feeling ko mahal dito haha
suzuki - the vitara 95 tho may isang nag offer sakin kaso 2 door

anyway so basta ang isang series ng kotse ay 5 years old na mataas ang chance na madali na makahanap ng parts etc sa kanya for maintenance? ic thats a nice thing to know. gusto ko kasi makta yung projection ko for the money na iseset aside ko dito e. like i said d naman sya for hardcore drive more city driving(hatid parents) occasional na out of town(ie baguio) at d ko gagamitin papnta work.

wow mukhang magnda yang verita na yan a

corolla xl 1999-2000 lovelife ka.. for 210k meron.. power steering na..dami pa parts.. in fairness merong mga kotse na tig 100k lang pero maganda pagka restore kaya ok pa din..depende yan sa pag alaga..wala din sa age ng kotse.. pag minalas ka kahit 250k ang bili mo sa kotse pag di maayos pagka maintain sasakit din ulo mo..

budget ko 150 lang e.. gastosan ko na lang palit ng kung ano ano..pati makina..hehehe..