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    Mga Tsikoters.....

    Please help in sharing your analytic inputs of whether getting a diesel engine or gas engine.

    Scenario: Using Altis 1.8 2003 for work in sales that goes around everyday for site meetings. We want to change kasi ang lakas sa gas.

    Objective: Use a vehicle na matipid sa fuel and more Km covered plus hindi mabigat ang periodic maintenance.

    Looking at Sorento, Sportage, or Santa Fe ( if kaya ang financing). We need cargo space for loading stuffs

    Looking at Innova G. We need cargo space for loading stuffs


    Need Help: Diba ang diesel mas maraming maintenance schedule...like every 5K....then mas maraming parts pinapalitan? Pero mura ang fuel and mas maraming milleage covered? Pag nag gas naman.... seldom ang maintenance and lesser parts pinapalitan, pero lesser milleage covered? What would then be the right engine variant to get...let say 3 years computation....would answer the objective?

    Thanks in advance.
    Last edited by ghosthunter; March 26th, 2010 at 12:13 PM.

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    AFAIK ang diesel engine ang mas konti ang pinapalitan pag due na sa maintenance. Change oil and oil filter lang every 3K and change/replace air filter.

    Sa gas engine naman ang change oil every 5K (can be extended to 7K kung superior synthetic oil ang gamit), change spark plugs every 10K, clean or replace air filter element every 5K.

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    Cost per Km-wise, its hard to beat a diesel, even the old rattlers can beat the new variable valve gas engines on fuel mileage.

    Diesels will get more Km/L compared to gas engines with similar power output. Also, the cost of diesel is much lower than gasoline. Ang medyo mas malaking gastos lang yung mga filters and oil because diesels will most likely be larger in displacement than gas engines thus the need to use more oil per oil change.

    Pero if you do the math, you can't really beat a diesel in terms of economy.

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    Sorento - For business ? Nah. Sayang. Mahal pa. If purely private lang ang use, then go for it.

    Sportage - Too small for hauling cargoes.

    Santa Fe - the 2.2L diesel version is enough. maganda na power ng diesel, so no need na for the gas version.

    Innova G - get the gas. maganda to in hauling stuff, wag ka magdiesel, sakit lang sa ulo ang d4d.

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    even in germany where diesel fuel is more expensive than petrol or gasoline, majority of the locals still prefer diesel powered engines for lower cost per mile and reliability. diesel fuel has more btu per pound than gasoline. more heat means more energy

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    Thank you to all who replied....more power!!!

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    avanza ka na lang kung pang-work and sales meeting. pinakamatipid yan sa tingin ko collapse mo sa likod for cargo

    i would'nt recommend SF for sales meetings, ang lapad neto. it's size is a liability

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    Innova is a better people carrier than a cargo hauler. Nine people (incl. driver) is the norm. But for loading stuff at the back, it is seriously penalized by the last row chairs since they only foldup therefore capacity (width) is somehow compromised.

    The last row chairs can be removed (albeit with a little elbow grease) if loading stuff is your primary purpose for the space at the back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gen. Miting View Post
    avanza ka na lang kung pang-work and sales meeting. pinakamatipid yan sa tingin ko collapse mo sa likod for cargo

    i would'nt recommend SF for sales meetings, ang lapad neto. it's size is a liability
    What is the engine of avanza? hindi naman like innova may problem? pero ganda ng sorento...saw it yesterday sa kia-pasig.

    site meetings are home owner in villages....size would not be a problem, minsan nga para makaclose ng deals....owners look at you and your car...yung para bang may dating ka para sa kanila, tsaka nila consider your item and your trust worthiness....hhhhaaayyyy!!! hirap mag negosyo!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by number001 View Post
    Innova is a better people carrier than a cargo hauler. Nine people (incl. driver) is the norm. But for loading stuff at the back, it is seriously penalized by the last row chairs since they only foldup therefore capacity (width) is somehow compromised.

    The last row chairs can be removed (albeit with a little elbow grease) if loading stuff is your primary purpose for the space at the back.
    That's the plan...number001....remove the back seat para mas wider ang cargo. I see your pic is a subie...are you a proud owner too? Forester din and 2nd car namin ni Mrs and lakas din sa gas for metro manila, kaya we decided to get a diesel in exchange to the altis

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