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    Hi Guys

    need advise we're planning to upgrade our delivery vans, to replace our L300 and

    Isuzu NKR's. From what's in the market that I'm considering HINO, Isuzu and Canter.

    My questions:

    1. Durable engine
    2. Durable Turbo - I heard of premature turbo failure , if I can find a non-turbo Euro 4 I think its a better choice.

    3. Easy to maintain and cheap parts.



    Thank you

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    To add to my inquiry.


    how about the Hyundai h100 ? anybody tried this as replacement for the Mits L300. is it Euro 4.


    thanks

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    My old man's company uses two H100s. It has an engine similar to the 4d56 of the l300s. The engine is prone to smoke belching since it is a euro 2 engine.

    I would suggest the new isuzu qkr, which has the same 3.0 engine of the dmax or mux but is detuned although it is euro 4 compliant already and it's bigger than the Hyundai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anthon05 View Post
    To add to my inquiry.


    how about the Hyundai h100 ? anybody tried this as replacement for the Mits L300. is it Euro 4.


    thanks
    H100 is ok. Our company has 2 of those. Mas "car-like" i-drive due to the shift column position and good enough para sa kargahan due to the short gearing.

    Quirk lang na na-experience ko is finding interior and exterior parts like original signal lights, headlight, horn button kasi sobrang hirap maghanap ng original kahit sa hyundai parts suppliers. Kaya settled for surplus parts instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anthon05 View Post
    To add to my inquiry.


    how about the Hyundai h100 ? anybody tried this as replacement for the Mits L300. is it Euro 4.


    thanks
    euro2 padin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTcervan View Post
    My old man's company uses two H100s. It has an engine similar to the 4d56 of the l300s. The engine is prone to smoke belching since it is a euro 2 engine.

    I would suggest the new isuzu qkr, which has the same 3.0 engine of the dmax or mux but is detuned although it is euro 4 compliant already and it's bigger than the Hyundai.
    It will probably be replaced by a detuned version of the engine used in the Grand Starex. I think yung K2700 ng Kia naka Euro IV engine na din.

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    how about the Suzuki super carry diesel?

    anybody bought this van?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anthon05 View Post
    how about the Suzuki super carry diesel?

    anybody bought this van?
    its a 2cylinder diesel...will it last 500,000km? most likely no

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    Quote Originally Posted by anthon05 View Post
    how about the Suzuki super carry diesel?

    anybody bought this van?
    Two cylinder turbo diesel.

    Does 25+ km/l on the highway. Around 10-15 km/l in the city.

    Approximately twice the fuel economy of an L300 FB.

    Total cargo capacity is small, however, at just 750 kilograms. (I believe that includes the driver) versus 1,150 kg for the FB.

    But considering it costs so much less than the FB, and costs much less to run... that's fine.

    In light use, it should last quite a while, but if you use it to do the same work as a full-sized truck and overload it, don't expect it to last as long.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Two cylinder turbo diesel.

    Does 25+ km/l on the highway. Around 10-15 km/l in the city.

    Approximately twice the fuel economy of an L300 FB.

    Total cargo capacity is small, however, at just 750 kilograms. (I believe that includes the driver) versus 1,150 kg for the FB.

    But considering it costs so much less than the FB, and costs much less to run... that's fine.

    In light use, it should last quite a while, but if you use it to do the same work as a full-sized truck and overload it, don't expect it to last as long.
    if they opt for a suzuki super carry UV ano kaya payload nun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Two cylinder turbo diesel.

    Does 25+ km/l on the highway. Around 10-15 km/l in the city.

    Approximately twice the fuel economy of an L300 FB.

    Total cargo capacity is small, however, at just 750 kilograms. (I believe that includes the driver) versus 1,150 kg for the FB.

    But considering it costs so much less than the FB, and costs much less to run... that's fine.

    In light use, it should last quite a while, but if you use it to do the same work as a full-sized truck and overload it, don't expect it to last as long.
    Not crazy about their rust proofing though niky. Display units already had quite a lot of surface rust on the suspension bits.

    Almost drove off with one too. Saleswoman was very convincing. But no PS, no a/c were dealbreakers.

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    How about the Hilux with a FB?

    Baka okay din mga yan?

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    the super carry cost only around 500k maybe for light use. might not

    match the durability of L300. I hope Mitsubishi releases a Euro 4 L300 never
    mind if it looks the same , what's important is not a smoke belcher.

    For now super carry is the only Euro 4 close to L300 size but still too small engine 750cc and loading capacity. if its at least 1600 or 2000cc then its

    a good replacement for L300.

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    1 Isuzu NKR or 2 Tata Super Ace?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    1 Isuzu NKR or 2 Tata Super Ace?
    Neither. 1 Fuso Canter. Hehehe.

    The new Euro 4 offerings are so expensive 🤑

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r View Post
    Neither. 1 Fuso Canter. Hehehe.

    The new Euro 4 offerings are so expensive 🤑
    maganda yun 71 ng isuzu and canter...

    4.0(108/275) vs 4.6 (121/333)



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    We have a couple of L300s - deluxe and exceed, an H100 and a K2700. The K2700 has never failed a smoke belching test. The H100 curiously has failed twice while the L300s fail most of the time. Except for the K2700 which has a J2 OHV, the H100 and L300 supposedly have related engines but I dunno why our L300s have been more prone to smoke belching.

    Pulling power-wise, stat sheets indicate that the H100 is theoretically superior to K2700 but the opposite is true with our experience especially in going uphill. The L300 maybe inferior stats-wise but it wins overall because of its better power-to-weight ratio compared to the others. H100 has the highest top speed on flat roads.

    Our drivers love the interior of the H100 and K2700. The cabin is more car-like and relaxing to drive. Front aircon is cold even in traffic at noon. K2700 slightly comes out on top for the cooler aircon and foldable middle seat for a couple of cup holders. L300 is spartan, and the aircon is decent but it can quite warm at noon. Puwede na, but we want the driver and pahinante to feel comfortable during rides and be presentable.

    I got the chance to try out the Tata Super Ace FB dual aircon of my friend. It's a nice direct competitor to the L300 price and size-wise but we kind of missed out on the power. The brochures say that it's nearly the same as the L300 but it's still a turbocharged engine vs a naturally aspirated one delivering almost the same horsepower and torque. The lag was evident from standstill to 2000rpm, fully loaded and uphill.

    We ended up reserving for a K2500 CRDI dropside to be converted to refrigerated van.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anthon05 View Post
    the super carry cost only around 500k maybe for light use. might not

    match the durability of L300. I hope Mitsubishi releases a Euro 4 L300 never
    mind if it looks the same , what's important is not a smoke belcher.

    For now super carry is the only Euro 4 close to L300 size but still too small engine 750cc and loading capacity. if its at least 1600 or 2000cc then its

    a good replacement for L300.
    The L300 will make a comeback, probably next year or so accdg. to an article of mmc. I think it will have the same 4n15 of monty/strada although it is detuned for that model. We know it is immortal lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTcervan View Post
    The L300 will make a comeback, probably next year or so accdg. to an article of mmc. I think it will have the same 4n15 of monty/strada although it is detuned for that model. We know it is immortal lol.
    ok naman L300 kundi lang prone sa overheating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxpedition View Post
    ok naman L300 kundi lang prone sa overheating.
    The overheating of the L3 can usually be avoided by consistently cleaning the areas between the aluminum fins of the radiator. Kaya siya (vans na mid-engine) prone sa overheating kasi the air sucked for cooling the radiator and engine comes from below the body between the tires. Puro alikabok ang roads natin. The dirt gets stuck sa radiator kaya umiinit. Ang gawa ko, binubugahan ko ng compressed air from "behind" the radiator. Just be careful sa pressure so as not to damage the fins.

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