Looking for a new car. opinions needed.

[Rethinker]

new member, first thread/post...
I'm on the wait list for the 3.2 Wildtrak but everyone knows how that's going so I'm considering other options.
I'm looking for an SUV with a max price tag of 2M. I might consider going up as high as 2.4 if it's worth it.

here are my preferences:
Preferably diesel
Good FC would be huuuuge plus
creature comforts and what not inside
dark grey or black leather interior

I'm not much of a car guy so any help members here could extend would be greatly appreciated.

I've looked at the following thus far:
1. Montero GTV - personal preference thing but I'm not so keen on the interior, both color and roominess.
2. Fortuner 4x4 - We have one and I'd jump on the 2012 one with the dark grey interior, if not for the fact that there's speculation of an all new model coming out soon.
3. 2.0 eco-boost Explorer - Really nice inside and out, with all the fancy toys. concerned about FC, maintenance cost and resale value. And ofcourse, price.
4. All new Forester - Looked at it this morning, the base model, though, not the XT. The XT looks to have all the little toys one could want but I'm curious about its performance. A little unsure about its looks and size too.
Any suggestions or perhaps things to reconsider about the ones I've seen?

[macsd]

I gone through the same when i was looking for one. I was quick to get the Montero & Fortuner as per what you have mentioned plus they're all over the place.
Subaru would fall on small SUV or a cross over car thus i ended up on an Explorer. I believe i made a right choice as the FC is not bad if you compare the load & size. Unlike you, i consider enjoying the car rather than selling it later.

[Calistro]

You might want to include the Chevrolet Trailblazer and Hyundai Santa Fe in your choices. A lot of members swear by them; good fc, creature comforts, etc

[Rethinker]

Macsd, thanks for your input. I really appreciate it. Don't get me wrong though, I'm not one to sell and update after only a few years of use either. In fact, I'm just coming off a 2001 Trooper. Regardless, I tend to look at both resale value and especially durability over an extended period of ownership/use. We all know the perception towards Ford SUVs and my friends were quick to point them out when the topic came up the other night. Not to say they're all factual or even remotely accurate but being as confused as I am, it definitely made me think.
Which Explorer model did you get and what would you say your average FC is for city driving? What about maintenance/PMS cost so far? Honestly, I'm trying not to but at this point in time, I'm leaning towards the Explorer.
All ears open to suggestions though, still not 100% sold on any one of these cars -- now, even on the Ranger since I dont really have much use for a truck.

Calistro, thanks for the heads up. I didn't consider those before, based solely on aesthetics, but will go check them out anyway.

[Egan101]

Maybe you can also consider the Mazda CX-9 as it is quite decent for a 7-seater. However, if you will just be ferrying 5 people or less most of the time, the Forester XT will be your best bet. Or if you want something unique with proven performance and enough room for 5 (plus luggage space), you may want to look at the Subaru Legacy GT wagon.

[Rethinker]

Thanks Egan. It's actually not a bad looking car, the CX9. Just looked at it on their site. I'm not excited about the engine size but I'll swing by the dealer tomorrow to check it out. Funny you mention the number of seaters. It's really just going to be me and my GF for the most part... family here and there, on occasions I get asked to drive someone. I do need the luggage space though. One thing I should note not liking so much about the F XT is its size and height. I've gotten used to having good ground clearance and above-traffic-sight.

[timykoo]

Thanks Egan. It's actually not a bad looking car, the CX9. Just looked at it on their site. I'm not excited about the engine size but I'll swing by the dealer tomorrow to check it out. Funny you mention the number of seaters. It's really just going to be me and my GF for the most part... family here and there, on occasions I get asked to drive someone. I do need the luggage space though. One thing I should note not liking so much about the F XT is its size and height. I've gotten used to having good ground clearance and above-traffic-sight.

I think the explorer has a low low low clearance due to the plastic guard below the front bumper. Mukhang sayarin pa sa mga ramps...

[ano727]

Thanks Egan. It's actually not a bad looking car, the CX9. Just looked at it on their site. I'm not excited about the engine size but I'll swing by the dealer tomorrow to check it out. Funny you mention the number of seaters. It's really just going to be me and my GF for the most part... family here and there, on occasions I get asked to drive someone. I do need the luggage space though. One thing I should note not liking so much about the F XT is its size and height. I've gotten used to having good ground clearance and above-traffic-sight.

CX9 is a very good car in many aspects, looks, build quality (Japan CBU), handling, ride comfort, luxury, road presence, etc. The only downside I would consider is FC. Personally, I'm getting around 5.5km/liter on almost 100% CBD driving (Ortigas, Fort, Makati). If you can live with that, it's an excellent choice. They have a new facelift, so outgoing model is on attractive discounts. I understand there is still P200k discount for outgoing model.

Think about this, the P200k discount will already pay for your gas expenses differential for several years. Hope this helps.

Best to test drive all your shortlisted options so you have first hand comparison.

[d_mac]

new member, first thread/post...
I'm on the wait list for the 3.2 Wildtrak but everyone knows how that's going so I'm considering other options.
I'm looking for an SUV with a max price tag of 2M. I might consider going up as high as 2.4 if it's worth it.

here are my preferences:
Preferably diesel
Good FC would be huuuuge plus
creature comforts and what not inside
dark grey or black leather interior

I'm not much of a car guy so any help members here could extend would be greatly appreciated.

I've looked at the following thus far:
1. Montero GTV - personal preference thing but I'm not so keen on the interior, both color and roominess.
2. Fortuner 4x4 - We have one and I'd jump on the 2012 one with the dark grey interior, if not for the fact that there's speculation of an all new model coming out soon.
3. 2.0 eco-boost Explorer - Really nice inside and out, with all the fancy toys. concerned about FC, maintenance cost and resale value. And ofcourse, price.
4. All new Forester - Looked at it this morning, the base model, though, not the XT. The XT looks to have all the little toys one could want but I'm curious about its performance. A little unsure about its looks and size too.
Any suggestions or perhaps things to reconsider about the ones I've seen?

Try considering sir:

Trailblazer 2.8 Duramax
Fortuner 3.0 D-4D
Santa Fe 2.2 R-eVGT

Goodluck!

[Rethinker]

Thanks for the additional responses!

Timykoo, tama ka. I've read reports of it being low enough to graze curbs. I'll really have to test drive it to see about its driving height. If I get a good enough height of sight, I may look past the clearance. That's the one thing I felt the F XT lacked.

ano727, that's not a bad way of looking at it. I agree, I will have to test drive them all, or at the very least, my top picks.

d_mac, I'll give the Trailblazer another look. I was just at the Toyota dealership near me and I was told they could no longer get me the one with the dark grey interior. That's kinda what kept the Fortuner up in the top 3 on my list. I really don't want to deal with another tan interior-ed car. lol!

[basti08]

A full-optioned Kia Sorento 2.2 Re-VGT is my bet.



Those from the grey market are better kitted AFAIK.

[renzo_d10]

Get the Sorento 2.2 R-eVGT with a manual tranny. Performance + good fuel efficiency.

Then just spend the rest of the money into mods. Maybe change the rims and swap some trims here & there.

The Explorer is undeniably great. But if you factor FC, then 4-5km/L on the city... gas! might not be something that you'd want.

[SiRbossR]

Take another look and have a test drive on that Forester XT.

[victorevolution]

explorer would fit your bill

the eco boost would do 7-9 km per liter that's cheap already since our mpv gas feed also does the same

the 3.6(?) would go as same as the cx9 (in terms of fuel economy)but way faster compered to the eco boost

diesel- only sta fe is in the same class as the cx9 and explorer

other good diesel

montero- value for money regardless of the defractors but just be ready since it's already common(i see it as a good thing, availability of spare parts after the warranty period)
traiblazer- long waiting line the best of the current
fortunner- still bumpy but not as bumpy like the first gen

2CENTS - if i were you since you wanted a crew cab(pick up) all along i would just wait till next year for the launch of the all new isuzu pick up and the all new strada- good things comes to those who wait ika nga nila

so wait it out magnonormalize din yung supply ng ford and while waiting baka makatsamaba ka sa mga all new models ng ibang bran

[foresterx]

Thanks Egan. It's actually not a bad looking car, the CX9. Just looked at it on their site. I'm not excited about the engine size but I'll swing by the dealer tomorrow to check it out. Funny you mention the number of seaters. It's really just going to be me and my GF for the most part... family here and there, on occasions I get asked to drive someone. I do need the luggage space though. One thing I should note not liking so much about the F XT is its size and height. I've gotten used to having good ground clearance and above-traffic-sight.

i have an explorer limited and used to have a forester, honestly the forester has better ground clearance. well for a crossover i think the forester has the best ground clearance. the FXT is a pretty damn powerful crossover, probably the best in it's class when it comes to performance. anyway for 2M price range there are lots of SUV's available right now in the market, i suggest going to all casa's and test driving them all.

[IMm29]

Forester xt or cx9 for me.

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[EQAddict]

I have both the v6 explorer and just recently got the new Forester XT. The xt is big inside for a 5 seater. Has about 10cm more rear legroom than the previous model. More greenhouse, better doors, solid feeling, etc. It is a nice and easy car to drive. Doesnt feel that big. And it has the power too when you need it. It just doesnt have the kick of the older model...

After driving it back to back with my trailblazer, i never want to drive my diesel suv again hehe. Night and day difference in terms of comfort and handling. So if youre thinking of getting a fortuner (which the trailblazer will trounce) i would reco the Forester instead. Gas consumption is about 6-7km/liter city driving. Thats where the trailblazer beats it.

As for the explorer its big, got all the toys, macho, good looking. But because it is big, dont expect to get too much driving fun out of it.

In effect.... If you dont need 7 seats then get the forester turbo..


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[Rethinker]

Thanks everyone!
Any issues with grey market cars? For one, I know they dont carry a warranty. Ive also heard of people having "legal" issues... Any truth to this?
I definitely will give the XT another look. Not sure if I mentioned this but the one I checked out at the dealer here in CDO was the base model so it definitely deserves a second look. I'll arrange a test drive when I fly out this week.
I honestly have no use for a truck. The specs and the idea a having a toy kind of pushed me to it, as irrational as that sounds.
I think I'd be fine with 7-9km/l. Any of you guys with explorers getting the same numbers? Im also curious as to what kind of driving it would take to get such good mileage. I'm not one to play on the road too often, if at all, but I dont want to be impractically light on the pedal either.