Help! Buying On 2nd Hand Car Shops or Buying On Private Sellers Online?

[dr. d]

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Sir diesel engines has a glow plug instead of a spark plug. Aside from that diesel engines has more component parts than a gasoline engine so mas madaming parts na pwede ma wear thats why siguro mas mahal maintenance ng diesel compare to gasoline engines.

my 2005 D4d is almost 100K now. and i haven't changed anything at all in the engine bay, except for the air cleaner element, that damned fuel filter, a couple of headlight bulbs, the battery (2x na), and of course, the oil.
when should the glow plug be changed?

[SkyFlakes88]

Tama po sir robgowild. Had a friend na nasira yun fuel pump nang innova nila na diesel.Cost was 70k to replace the whole part. nabarahan dahil sa free diesel na binigay sa kanya. After the replacement binenta na yun innova kumuha na lang nang gasoline fed car. Grabe daw pala pag nasira yun mga engine parts nang diesel lalo na pag crdi na.

[SkyFlakes88]

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my 2005 D4d is almost 100K now. and i haven't changed anything at all in the engine bay, except for the air cleaner element, that damned fuel filter, a couple of headlight bulbs, the battery (2x na), and of course, the oil.
when should the glow plug be changed?

Sir dr. d, diesel engines specially mga crdi pag na tsambahan at nasira major parts sa engine mahal po talaga. Good thing po well maintained po yun innova nyo sir. Careful po sa diesel fuel na madumi. Yun ang culprit na nakasira sa pump nun sa friend ko po. Saka yun pong turbo nya mahal din po pag nasira.

[robgowild]

If you encounter hard starting maybe the glow plug needs to be replaced. There's no time interval for that AFAIK.

[vvti2.0]

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diesels do not have distributor, hi tension cables, sparking plugs.
fuel expenses are also cheaper by, say, 25 %.
so why is diesel vehicle maintenance more expensive than its gasoline counterpart?

Di na uso paps high tension cables ngayun. Wala na rin distributor na kagaya nung old school na mechanical.

Yung ignition coil, naka direct attachment sa spark plug na, so low voltage na lang tumatakbo sa linya compared before.

[dr. d]

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Tama po sir robgowild. Had a friend na nasira yun fuel pump nang innova nila na diesel.Cost was 70k to replace the whole part. nabarahan dahil sa free diesel na binigay sa kanya. After the replacement binenta na yun innova kumuha na lang nang gasoline fed car. Grabe daw pala pag nasira yun mga engine parts nang diesel lalo na pag crdi na.

kawawa naman siya... but was that the only possible solution? or is it because he chose to believe the shop... hook, line and sinker..?

so is this a common enough occurence? or is it one isolated example?
what if i narrate to you the story of my colleague's vvti block head that had to be changed because the engine overheated, the head gasket blew, and the head warped? will you avoid vvtis altogether?

let's talk about normal wear and tear... disasters are patent to neither diesel or gas...

[vvti2.0]

If you encounter hard starting maybe the glow plug needs to be replaced. There's no time interval for that AFAIK.

Mas malaki probability na marami ka ng papalitan na ibang parts sa VVTi and D4D engine, bago yan bumigay. So ibig sabihin, nabenta mo na unit mo, di ka pa magpapalit nyan.

[dr. d]

Di na uso paps high tension cables ngayun. Wala na rin distributor na kagaya nung old school na mechanical.

Yung ignition coil, naka direct attachment sa spark plug na, so low voltage na lang tumatakbo sa linya compared before.

ah... my age shows.
so how much is this ignition coil-cum-sparkplug assembly?

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Di na uso paps high tension cables ngayun. Wala na rin distributor na kagaya nung old school na mechanical.

Yung ignition coil, naka direct attachment sa spark plug na, so low voltage na lang tumatakbo sa linya compared before.

ah... my age shows.
so how much is this ignition coil-cum-sparkplug assembly?

[SkyFlakes88]

We have a 2008 VVTi E variant, and I agree with this, pero dapat ma define yung "hindi gaano magagamit". Yung sa amin nakuha for 300k nung 2013 nasa 49k km mileage, pinalitan ko iridium spark plugs and palit oem na air filter, around PhP 3.5k rin. Monthly mileage ko is around 400 km, fuel is around 2.5k per month. So tingin medyo sulit na yung pagkakabili ko.

Sa Toyota Innova Club Philippines, may nag post na 2 months ago nakabili sa isang car dealership ng Toyota VVTi G 2008 model for around 480k.. Parang ang mahal para sa akin for a VVTi.

Parts and maintenance almost the same lang yan, sa VVTi fuel filter costs PhP 3k, pero pagpapalit mo after 80k km, isasabay mo baba ng fuel tank and replace the parts inside also. So baka abutin ka mga 6k more or less.

Sa diesel, di ko alam palitan ng fuel filter, pero at least may available ata na hindi oem, palitan is as needed. Medyo mabigat lang ay yung pag palit ng timing belt tapos yung set nya, pero after 150k km pa yun.

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We have a 2008 VVTi E variant, and I agree with this, pero dapat ma define yung "hindi gaano magagamit". Yung sa amin nakuha for 300k nung 2013 nasa 49k km mileage, pinalitan ko iridium spark plugs and palit oem na air filter, around PhP 3.5k rin. Monthly mileage ko is around 400 km, fuel is around 2.5k per month. So tingin medyo sulit na yung pagkakabili ko.

Sa Toyota Innova Club Philippines, may nag post na 2 months ago nakabili sa isang car dealership ng Toyota VVTi G 2008 model for around 480k.. Parang ang mahal para sa akin for a VVTi.

Parts and maintenance almost the same lang yan, sa VVTi fuel filter costs PhP 3k, pero pagpapalit mo after 80k km, isasabay mo baba ng fuel tank and replace the parts inside also. So baka abutin ka mga 6k more or less.

Sa diesel, di ko alam palitan ng fuel filter, pero at least may available ata na hindi oem, palitan is as needed. Medyo mabigat lang ay yung pag palit ng timing belt tapos yung set nya, pero after 150k km pa yun.

Yun pong meaning ko sa d gaano nagagamit is yun weekend use lang po sya at 2nd vehicle lang po sya.

[vvti2.0]

Tama po sir robgowild. Had a friend na nasira yun fuel pump nang innova nila na diesel.Cost was 70k to replace the whole part. nabarahan dahil sa free diesel na binigay sa kanya. After the replacement binenta na yun innova kumuha na lang nang gasoline fed car. Grabe daw pala pag nasira yun mga engine parts nang diesel lalo na pag crdi na.

Bago bumigay fuel pump mo, yung dalawang filter muna ng D4D ang bibigay, yung sa tanke at sa labas, either defective yung fuel pump na naikabit from the factory or sadyang madumi fuel nya.

And totoo mahal fuel pump ng diesel sa VVTi it will cost you 9k sa Toyorama and that is OEM.

Yung usapan naman is normal wear and tear, yung fuel pump di normal na masira yan, may mga 4JA1, kalahating milyon na tinakbo wala issue sa fuel pump.

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Tama po sir robgowild. Had a friend na nasira yun fuel pump nang innova nila na diesel.Cost was 70k to replace the whole part. nabarahan dahil sa free diesel na binigay sa kanya. After the replacement binenta na yun innova kumuha na lang nang gasoline fed car. Grabe daw pala pag nasira yun mga engine parts nang diesel lalo na pag crdi na.

Bago bumigay fuel pump mo, yung dalawang filter muna ng D4D ang bibigay, yung sa tanke at sa labas, either defective yung fuel pump na naikabit from the factory or sadyang madumi fuel nya.

And totoo mahal fuel pump ng diesel sa VVTi it will cost you 9k sa Toyorama and that is OEM.

Yung usapan naman is normal wear and tear, yung fuel pump di normal na masira yan, may mga 4JA1, kalahating milyon na tinakbo wala issue sa fuel pump.