Fiesta Sport Sedan vs Vios 1.5G MT vs City 1.5 ENC

[brainmafia_310]

That was an isolated case with a different type of Powershift transmission designed for the Ford-Peugeot S.A diesel engine in the Focus TDCi.

Thanks sa info Sir.

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[3GEMS]

maganda talaga NVH ng fiesta. ang ayaw ko sakanya hindi sya responsive sa hard acceleration (A/T) hindi agad sumisipa

ano AT na fiesta? 4 speed or 6 speed?
On my 1.4 AT fiesta sedan wala naman problema sa acceleration, engine can rev up to red line with ease(sa ibang engine pag red line para sasabog ang makina, pero sa fiesta iba, mapapasmile ka hehe), 100-160 kmh sisiw on high way.... reklamo ko lang sa fofi matagtag...

[shibby75]

The fiesta i drove was a 6 speed powershift.

[niky]

The 4AT in the Fiesta 1.4 is more responsive than the 6AT in the 1.6 Powershift. Dunno about the 1.5. I will be driving it later this month, though.

[donseeland]

The 4AT in the Fiesta 1.4 is more responsive than the 6AT in the 1.6 Powershift. Dunno about the 1.5. I will be driving it later this month, though.

Sir Niky, sana maantay ko review nyo before we decide.

[niky]

Sir Niky, sana maantay ko review nyo before we decide.

Have a buffer to get through before the Fiesta review is posted. Might be out by mid-November.

[AG4]

Sir Niky, sana maantay ko review nyo before we decide.

While you wait for Niky's New Fiesta review (main course), you might want to check out some Appetizers. :P
There's one in the September issue of Top Gear Philippines (Shakedown: Ford Fiesta Titanium) by Andy Leuterio and one in Driving impressions of the new Ford Fiesta | Motor Trader Car News

[dct]

ano AT na fiesta? 4 speed or 6 speed?
On my 1.4 AT fiesta sedan wala naman problema sa acceleration, engine can rev up to red line with ease(sa ibang engine pag red line para sasabog ang makina, pero sa fiesta iba, mapapasmile ka hehe), 100-160 kmh sisiw on high way.... reklamo ko lang sa fofi matagtag...

yung "aston martin" grille na 1.5 AT. kaya naman po tumakbo ng 100+ no problem. but let say, you are running at 30 kph, then floor the gas pedal, hindi agad sisipa gaya sa ibang kotse

[AG4]

With the new 1.5, the feel is more like that of the 1.6 which is probably not surprising although it is 10 ps less (and 21 ps more than the 1.4). It’s a marginally long-stroke engine which should be good for torque and in-gear acceleration which I found to be fairly brisk.

The Powershift transmission, which uses the dual-clutch concept to increase efficiency, has a low 1st gear to enhance take-offs and a higher top gear to bring revs down for fuel-saving at cruising speeds. Compared to a conventional 4-speed automatic transmission, a 9% improvement in fuel economy is claimed.

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[mikessj]

Thanks po sa mga expert advice. We don't need the extra space right now but having a bigger 2nd row and trunk would come in handy when needed. Hopefully, pag test drive ng Fiesta would seal the deal for us. First time kasi namin sa AT tranny kaya medyo maraming apprehensions lalo na sa maintenance.

I have the same dilemma as you are in now. Choosing between TOTL subcompact cars but then am now having the urge to get a bigger car like mitsubishi Lancer ex because the price between them is too close. Arrggh.... I hope I can come out with a wise decision.

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[Walter]

I have the same dilemma as you are in now. Choosing between TOTL subcompact cars but then am now having the urge to get a bigger car like mitsubishi Lancer ex because the price between them is too close. Arrggh.... I hope I can come out with a wise decision.

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If fuel efficiency is a major consideration, get the smaller vehicle. Otherwise, for safety, comfort, etc., bigger is usually better.

[AG4]

Otherwise, for safety, comfort, etc., bigger is usually better.

Usually, but not always better, since base model compacts sold here usually have less standard safety features.
The TOTL Fiesta for example has every safety feature a base compact (C-segment car) has like dual-airbags and ABS+EBD, but the TOTL Fiesta also has additional safety features that help you avoid accidents like ESP (Electronic Stability Program) which is available starting from the P798K Fiesta Trend Powershift models and higher.

[shibby75]

yung "aston martin" grille na 1.5 AT. kaya naman po tumakbo ng 100+ no problem. but let say, you are running at 30 kph, then floor the gas pedal, hindi agad sisipa gaya sa ibang kotse

That exactly what i noticed, hindi or walng kickdown ang gear pag sinagad mo throttle ng fiesta. Maybe its just the logic of the powershift, to give a better fuel economy. Hassle nga lang pag overtake.

[AG4]

That exactly what i noticed, hindi or walng kickdown ang gear pag sinagad mo throttle ng fiesta. Maybe its just the logic of the powershift, to give a better fuel economy. Hassle nga lang pag overtake.

The New Fiesta Powershift models now have a manual shift function via +/- rocker switch on the shifter.

[shibby75]

I tested the fiesta at D and S. Tranny still shifts at a certain rpm. Feel ko, you only have control to downshifts, ecu still control the upshifts.


Im not bashing the fiesta, im just stating my concerns when i test drove it. From the mirage to accent hb, vios and fiesta. Test drove all except the accent.

[dct]

I tested the fiesta at D and S. Tranny still shifts at a certain rpm. Feel ko, you only have control to downshifts, ecu still control the upshifts.


Im not bashing the fiesta, im just stating my concerns when i test drove it. From the mirage to accent hb, vios and fiesta. Test drove all except the accent.

yep. mas may sipa pa ang 1.2 mirage. haha. napakalayo ng acceleration sa accent HB

[3GEMS]

yung "aston martin" grille na 1.5 AT. kaya naman po tumakbo ng 100+ no problem. but let say, you are running at 30 kph, then floor the gas pedal, hindi agad sisipa gaya sa ibang kotse

Mag kaiba type of tranny 1.4 at and 1.6 at... Siguro sa bagong program mg power shift ngayon affected acceleration..


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[AG4]

Mag kaiba type of tranny 1.4 at and 1.6 at... Siguro sa bagong program mg power shift ngayon affected acceleration..

Not just the program, they have a different type of transmission.
The 1.4 AT uses a traditional 4-speed torque converter automatic, the AT for the 1.6 and new 1.5 is a dual-clutch 6-speed transmission (PowerShift).

With the new 1.5, the feel is more like that of the 1.6 which is probably not surprising although it is 10 ps less (and 21 ps more than the 1.4). It’s a marginally long-stroke engine which should be good for torque and in-gear acceleration which I found to be fairly brisk.

The Powershift transmission, which uses the dual-clutch concept to increase efficiency, has a low 1st gear to enhance take-offs and a higher top gear to bring revs down for fuel-saving at cruising speeds. Compared to a conventional 4-speed automatic transmission, a 9% improvement in fuel economy is claimed.

- Motor Trader

[SiRbossR]

I tested the fiesta at D and S. Tranny still shifts at a certain rpm. Feel ko, you only have control to downshifts, ecu still control the upshifts.


Im not bashing the fiesta, im just stating my concerns when i test drove it. From the mirage to accent hb, vios and fiesta. Test drove all except the accent.

You're prolly not used to driving AT's with Manual mode. It won't let you shift to the point of Stalling. Unlike in MT's, you can shift earlier at top gear in lower revs.

[donseeland]

Satisfied naman kami after the test drive yesterday. I didnt notice any lack of power (or maybe we have different expectations). Will test drive the Civic 1.8 mt next week but we're almost sold on the Fiesta.

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