Diesel or gas?

[dr. d]

up ko uLit. Back read back read mahihinang niLaLang

malakas ang aking paninindigan!

[kagalingan]

pag nagbenta ka ng desel suv hindi mo pwede ilagay sa ads na "tahimik makina" unless the engine is on the level of peugeot.

Sa gasoline engine napakasisiw kahit suzuki alto tahimik

[dr. d]

pag nagbenta ka ng desel suv hindi mo pwede ilagay sa ads na "tahimik makina" unless the engine is on the level of peugeot.

Sa gasoline engine napakasisiw kahit suzuki alto tahimik

diesel knowledgeables do not look for "tahimik makina" when they go a-scouting for cars. it's a given, compared to gasoline engines, diesels aren't quiet engines. but neither are they racketeers.
what they are wary of, is the "usok".
heh heh.

[cipherphinx06]

I prefer diesel kasi mas mura ng 5 pesos kaysa sa gas.

[99gil99]

ang drawback lang ng diesel... mainit sa mata ng mga asbu, lalo na kung mga models na purely diesel like isuzu crosswind, mits. l300 or adventure. ingat sila sa mga innova kasi baka mapahiya sila na mapara yung petrol-fueled.

kapag naharang ka ng asbu, 100% bagsak ka sa smoke emission test.

[urbanmetal]

Advantage ba ng gas... Less downtime? Considering less maintenance ang kailangan?

How about yung # of times ng visit sa casa?

As of now here are the vehicles on my shortlist...

Hyundai Elantra
Hyundai Accent crdi hatch
Hyundai Tucson CRDI
Hyundai Santa Fe
Kia Sportage CRDI
Kia Sorento CRDI
Kia Soul
Kia Carnival
Hyundai i30 cross
Kia carens

Korean car fan, esp their crdi... sorry :D

Nakikita ko lang issue for now yung bad aftersales service.

[bloowolf]

urbanmetal, I own a modern Korean diesel & I am very happy with it. I think the only maintenance disadvantage of the diesel is that you have to bring it to the casa every 5K to have the oil filter changed, as compared to a Gasoline counterpart wherein you have to change every 10k. Aside from that, the fuel savings (cost & consumption) are way better than a gasoline & a Korean diesel car runs really smooth, quiet & not smoky. As far as after sales service is concerned, there are so many horror stories with the aftersales of the Japaneses brands too. Just backread on the topics here.

[Eevie]

Some diesels now have their PMS every 10k.

[dct]

Eto na naman gas vs diesel debate.
Di totoo na mas magastos ang diesel. Mas magastos in a sense na mas mahal konti ang oil, mas marami ng mga 2-3 liters. Magkano lang yun. Every change oil lang yan. Once a year kapag fully synthetic.

-Maingay at vibrate. True. But try korean diesel. Baka akalain mong gas. So di na ganyan ang modern diesel

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[Egan101]

VW-PH TDI (turbo diesel) vehicles have their PMS in 15k KM or 12-month cycles. This is what they told me when we inquired about the 2016 Jetta TDI.

[urbanmetal]

I myself prefer korean diesel cars over their gasoline counterparts. But there must be a reason why most cars still have gasoline engines, and that's what i'm trying to look into, just fir curiosity's sake.

[oj88]

Diesel.

Went to Baguio last week to spend the Holy Week there. With 5 occupants and a full cargo compartment, I got 13 km/L going up to Baguio.

Going down, I got 14.9 km/L.

[Gumusut_Amige]

Diesel.

Went to Baguio last week to spend the Holy Week there. With 5 occupants and a full cargo compartment, I got 13 km/L going up to Baguio.

Going down, I got 14.9 km/L.

Bro i'm assuming your fc is the average from manila to baguio and back. Ang tipid ang ride mo, eco mode ka ba sa figures na ito?
Maganda sana if you tried to reset your trip meter before hitting the incline to Baguio para malaman mo ang fc nya sa akyatan.

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[jonski]

Para sa akin sedan or CUB ay gas dahil mas gusto ko smooth and tahimik ang ride...pero kung midsize SUV/Van ay diesel mas gusto ko. True mas mura diesel pero bibilangin mo ng ilang taon bago mo mabawi binayad mo sa brand new na sasakyan na diesel kaysa gas.

[kagalingan]

Diesel is so backward and too cheap and dirty. Lalo lang lalakas loob ng fejodap, piston, pasangmazda and acto.

Pero dito sa pinas hindi pa kaya all gasoline and electric cars. Madami pa kailangan iaccomodate.

Example na lang mga motorcycle dapat hindi yan inallowed ganyan kadami tapos wala pa regulation sa muffler grabe kaingay. Eh kahit gasoline karamihan ng motorcycle eh dapat regulated ito. Kakapal ng face magpaingay pero pag sumemplang naman hingi tulong.

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Ang diesel lang dapat para sa heavy duty equipment, 16 wheeler trucks and the like. Pero sa passenger car, suv it should be gas or eletric. Kahit yung mga delivery vans dapat gas din.

[dr. d]

Diesel is so backward and too cheap and dirty. Lalo lang lalakas loob ng fejodap, piston, pasangmazda and acto.

Pero dito sa pinas hindi pa kaya all gasoline and electric cars. Madami pa kailangan iaccomodate.

Example na lang mga motorcycle dapat hindi yan inallowed ganyan kadami tapos wala pa regulation sa muffler grabe kaingay. Eh kahit gasoline karamihan ng motorcycle eh dapat regulated ito. Kakapal ng face magpaingay pero pag sumemplang naman hingi tulong.

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Ang diesel lang dapat para sa heavy duty equipment, 16 wheeler trucks and the like. Pero sa passenger car, suv it should be gas or eletric. Kahit yung mga delivery vans dapat gas din.

who's complaining that diesel is so cheap?
also, diesel emissions can be made cleaner, if we are willing to spend money for the technology.
and yess... we do need political will.

[jaggerx3]

Diesel is so backward and too cheap and dirty. Lalo lang lalakas loob ng fejodap, piston, pasangmazda and acto.

Pero dito sa pinas hindi pa kaya all gasoline and electric cars. Madami pa kailangan iaccomodate.

Example na lang mga motorcycle dapat hindi yan inallowed ganyan kadami tapos wala pa regulation sa muffler grabe kaingay. Eh kahit gasoline karamihan ng motorcycle eh dapat regulated ito. Kakapal ng face magpaingay pero pag sumemplang naman hingi tulong.

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Ang diesel lang dapat para sa heavy duty equipment, 16 wheeler trucks and the like. Pero sa passenger car, suv it should be gas or eletric. Kahit yung mga delivery vans dapat gas din.

Modern crdi diesels are much cleaner than the people's favorite vvt-i engine

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[eryxon]

Diesel is so backward and too cheap and dirty. Lalo lang lalakas loob ng fejodap, piston, pasangmazda and acto.

Pero dito sa pinas hindi pa kaya all gasoline and electric cars. Madami pa kailangan iaccomodate.

Example na lang mga motorcycle dapat hindi yan inallowed ganyan kadami tapos wala pa regulation sa muffler grabe kaingay. Eh kahit gasoline karamihan ng motorcycle eh dapat regulated ito. Kakapal ng face magpaingay pero pag sumemplang naman hingi tulong.

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Ang diesel lang dapat para sa heavy duty equipment, 16 wheeler trucks and the like. Pero sa passenger car, suv it should be gas or eletric. Kahit yung mga delivery vans dapat gas din.

Halata sir na di mo kabisado ang Diesel. Sa Truck at pickup mas maganda talaga ang diesel dahil sa torque. Sa mga small cars and motorcycle kaya gasoline karaniwan ay dahil gasoline engine is light and cheaper. Sa ngayon kapag naka diesel ka meaning can afford ka dahil higit na mas mahal ang diesel.

Sa mutor walang diesel akong alam dahil ang diesel engine ay mabigat. Diesel injection system palang baka kasing bigat na nga engine ng motorcycle.

Natawa ako sa "too cheap and dirty". Actually ang diesel kung calibrated mas sunog na sunog bago lumabas sa tambutso.

[oj88]

Bro i'm assuming your fc is the average from manila to baguio and back. Ang tipid ang ride mo, eco mode ka ba sa figures na ito?
Maganda sana if you tried to reset your trip meter before hitting the incline to Baguio para malaman mo ang fc nya sa akyatan.

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Just before entering NLEX, I filled it up, full-tank, then zeroed the FC meter. My route is NLEX, SCTEX, TPLEX, then via Manaoag (iwas traffic sa Sison).

The drive back was a little better. If memory serves me, I peaked at 15km/L but when I got to Balintawak, medyo traffic na sa toll gate. So I ended the return trip with an ave. FC of 14.5 km/L.

I try to maintain the speed at 100kph whenever possible and light na lang paa sa gas pedal.

[dr1v3r]

New crdi's hindi na mausok

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