Death of Sedans....Suspects Now Known

[travajante]

i really like the camry's size...exacto lang sakin

Found this Camry sibling too big & a bore.[emoji58]

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[2lits17]

i was trying to sell to my wife to get HRV as our next car once we retire our Altis, pero unang tanong saken... kasing kumportable ba ng sedan ang HRV na yan? so i answer. mas malambot konti sa Innova, ayaw niya ng ride comfort ng innova kasi matagtag, kakapagod sa katawan sa long ride. so ayun... end of discussion.... siya kasi lagi naka upo sa rear seats with the kids.

[dr. d]

i was trying to sell to my wife to get HRV as our next car once we retire our Altis, pero unang tanong saken... kasing kumportable ba ng sedan ang HRV na yan? so i answer. mas malambot konti sa Innova, ayaw niya ng ride comfort ng innova kasi matagtag, kakapagod sa katawan sa long ride. so ayun... end of discussion.... siya kasi lagi naka upo sa rear seats with the kids.

one has to sit in the rear seat, to see just how truly matagtag the innova's or other sedans' , are.
the most comfortable seat is the one smack in between the front and rear tires. and that's the driver's seat.

[Vodka]

may advantages pa rin ang sedan. i like having the trunk separate from the cabin. keeps whatever crap you have at the back from mixing w/ your aircon'ed air

why can't they make raised sedans w/ just a bit more ground clearance? and make those overhangs short so they don't scrape. and make the trunk lid opening BIG! what's the use of having a huge trunk if the opening is small

sometimes i think these car designers are morons

[sparc179]

may advantages pa rin ang sedan. i like having the trunk separate from the cabin. keeps whatever crap you have at the back from mixing w/ your aircon'ed air

why can't they make raised sedans w/ just a bit more ground clearance? and make those overhangs short so they don't scrape. and make the trunk lid opening BIG! what's the use of having a huge trunk if the opening is small

sometimes i think these car designers are morons

You could probably take a look at the Subaru XV/ Crosstrek. It fits your requirements quite well. Also the CX-3, Ford Ecosport and similar sized CUVs.

[travajante]

may advantages pa rin ang sedan. i like having the trunk separate from the cabin. keeps whatever crap you have at the back from mixing w/ your aircon'ed air

why can't they make raised sedans w/ just a bit more ground clearance? and make those overhangs short so they don't scrape. and make the trunk lid opening BIG! what's the use of having a huge trunk if the opening is small

sometimes i think these car designers are morons

They're called pickup trucks, sir.[emoji4]

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[Wh1stl3r]

middle ager na ako i have to be kind to my body hehe

ok lang in my 20s... naka sedan, lowered pa

tiis pogi tawag dyan

ngayon the hell with looking cool

now i wanna be comfortable

Ok lang daw di komportable basta mukhang bata sabi ni kags 😂

But, brother, don't we share faith in that Someone who reminded that
"He who is true in little, is true in much"?[emoji120]


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True bro. But given our mortal nature we will never have enough time in this life to do everything we want. Thus the need to prioritize our more worthwhile endeavors.

[kagalingan]

comfortable kaya sedan. Hindi nga matagtag tapos pag natraffic ka tahimik lang ang marinig mo lang pag nagautomatic si compressor. Wag ka lang tatabihan ng crosswind, innova, starex kasi tunog lata talaga.

Si diesel kasi nagagaspangan talaga ako.

Pero may isang sedan hindi ako nag-enjoy si fd civic. Masyado masikip sa loob at mababa. Chaka pag tumungga ako ng 1.5liter mug rootber hindi ko na maitodo angat kasi bumubunggo sa windshield at headliner.. Irerecline ko pa para mainom. Pero kung porma sa porma mukhang binata si fd.

Pag comfort mas type ko pa city/jazz maluwag.

But nothing beats civic vti/s.i.r Perfectly made. Madali parallel parking. Tamang size lang for a sedan not too long not too wide. Sana talaga may mag rebadge nito padating ulit para mabuhay ulit car scene. Namismiss ko na mga angasan yung puro pabomba tambucho sa greenhills hahahahah.

[Egan101]

why can't they make raised sedans w/ just a bit more ground clearance? and make those overhangs short so they don't scrape. and make the trunk lid opening BIG! what's the use of having a huge trunk if the opening is small

Isn't this the CUV? Most CUV platforms are designed from compact cars but they have higher ground clearance and a big trunk.

Look at the trunk of the new Forester. Ground clearance of the Forester is as good as the PPVs at 220mm.



This is for the new CRV (third row folded). CRV has a lower ground clearance though against the Forester (170mm).

[jut703]

Isn't this the CUV? Most CUV platforms are designed from compact cars but they have higher ground clearance and a big trunk.

Look at the trunk of the new Forester. Ground clearance of the Forester is as good as the PPVs at 220mm.



This is for the new CRV (third row folded). CRV has a lower ground clearance though against the Forester (170mm).

CRV ground clearance is 198mm for the 2WD and 208mm for the AWD.

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[Egan101]

But nothing beats civic vti/s.i.r Perfectly made. Madali parallel parking. Tamang size lang for a sedan not too long not too wide. Sana talaga may mag rebadge nito padating ulit para mabuhay ulit car scene. Namismiss ko na mga angasan yung puro pabomba tambucho sa greenhills hahahahah.

Marami pa rin ricey EK sa daan. Akala nila mabilis na sila kasi maingay tambutso nila.

Mayrun pa nga isa na nagbebenta ng EK na 2.4M kasi pang enthusiast daw.

[Egan101]

CRV ground clearance is 198mm for the 2WD and 208mm for the AWD.

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Still much better than the usual ground clearance of a City or Civic or Accord.

[kagalingan]

^
kung si civic ek hindi lang nakagbulutong issue eh dami pa sana yan. Grabe katibay makina at tipid manual trans. Yan ang kotse mura maintenance. Si trailing arm bushing lang madalas palitan.

Idrop na ni honda phils si brio. Mahirapan na yan tapatan si mirage. Magparating na lang sila ek every year dami pa bibili and only manual lang.

[EQAddict]

Id get a nice subcompact hatchback like the Jazz anyday. Thats my ultimate jack of all trades car (for my needs) that still can be fun to drive. Close enough to a sedan. At least it isnt a CUV or PPV.



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[StockEngine]

Still much better than the usual ground clearance of a City or Civic or Accord.

man ganda ng promo ng accord but the 130mm or was it 150mm ground clearance is not for my heavy tool kit.

[Vodka]

yeah yeah crossovers. but they don't have the isolated trunk of a sedan

actually it's all about product positioning. why cannibalize your crossover sales by offering a high-ground clearance econo-sedan? that's the reason why they're not being built. it takes very little metal to increase the ground clearance by just a little bit

but actually what the average buyer needs is a cheap sedan w/ decent ground clearance, w/ a big trunk opening to be able to your swallow stuff. but of course this concept is never gonna be built

[EQAddict]

They have the outback for that..... Though it aint cheap.

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[Egan101]

yeah yeah crossovers. but they don't have the isolated trunk of a sedan

actually it's all about product positioning. why cannibalize your crossover sales by offering a high-ground clearance econo-sedan? that's the reason why they're not being built. it takes very little metal to increase the ground clearance by just a little bit

but actually what the average buyer needs is a cheap sedan w/ decent ground clearance, w/ a big trunk opening to be able to your swallow stuff. but of course this concept is never gonna be built

In the US, Honda has a product offering that kind of meets such a requirement - the Accord Crosstour. It's a niche product of sorts but more people would opt for the CRV or Pilot instead.



BMW also has the X4 that looks like a sedan on stilts.

They have the outback for that..... Though it aint cheap.

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AWD wagons are quite nice and the Outback is well-loved in the snowy regions of the US and Canada.

[jut703]

yeah yeah crossovers. but they don't have the isolated trunk of a sedan

actually it's all about product positioning. why cannibalize your crossover sales by offering a high-ground clearance econo-sedan? that's the reason why they're not being built. it takes very little metal to increase the ground clearance by just a little bit

but actually what the average buyer needs is a cheap sedan w/ decent ground clearance, w/ a big trunk opening to be able to your swallow stuff. but of course this concept is never gonna be built

Uh, 3-series GT?

Higher ground clearance, big ass trunk separated from the cabin.



Noone bought it so they axed it for the G20 3-series. Maybe because it looks very odd.

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[travajante]

This humble hobo has gone everywhere. Ferry rides, long roadtrips. Easy, fun, reliable daily....best of all, nonCVT.[emoji4]

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