DCT and CVT, which car has one?

[StockEngine]

So no issues on the fxt cvt?

bro the failure rate is still less than 1 or 2 percent.

there is a brand that had some issues..

[Egan101]

So no issues on the fxt cvt?

Nope. You should see me drive that thing. Hehehe

It just feels soft off the line but when it’s moving, it will test your nerves.


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[Egan101]

I’m guessing its still in good condition. CVTs rarely have issues in the early years especially within or near the end of the warranty period.

If a CVT tranny is being cared for, it won’t be a problem. Case in point- the Jazz/City IDSI. There are still a bunch of them on the road and some of them are more than 15 years old already.


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[heavenlee]

The million dollar question seems to be -- which transmission will last longer -- conventional A/T or CVT, all other things being equal?

[hardwang]

If a CVT tranny is being cared for, it won’t be a problem. Case in point- the Jazz/City IDSI. There are still a bunch of them on the road and some of them are more than 15 years old already.


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Most of those city/jazz might be manual transmission perhaps? But yes, if you replace the fluid regularly, almost always it will last. Problema sa pinoy kinakaligtaan kahit simpleng pag palit

[StockEngine]

The million dollar question seems to be -- which transmission will last longer -- conventional A/T or CVT, all other things being equal?

15,000km per year. both cvt and torq converter will last 10years.

[StockEngine]

since 2015 subaru america sold more or less 3million cvts.

imagine if 10% have failed. thats 300,000 lawsuits.
5% is still 150,000..

failure rate is less than 1%...

[Egan101]

Most of those city/jazz might be manual transmission perhaps? But yes, if you replace the fluid regularly, almost always it will last. Problema sa pinoy kinakaligtaan kahit simpleng pag palit

Then it’s not the fault of the vehicle if the owner is stupid about maintenance. It’s like saying a weapon is evil even though the one who wields it is the real culprit.


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[hardwang]

Then it’s not the fault of the vehicle if the owner is stupid about maintenance. It’s like saying a weapon is evil even though the one who wields it is the real culprit.


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But given the same abuse/neglect, which one would most likely last and be easier to repair?

[Egan101]

But given the same abuse/neglect, which one would most likely last and be easier to repair?

All cars will break down over time. It is up to the owner how to address his challenges with maintainance.


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[yebo]

[DCT
1. Ford Ecosport pre 2018 - definitely problematic
2. Ford Fiesta, all models?
3. Ford Focus, all models?
4. Hyundai Accent diesel
5. Hyundai Veloster

CVT
1. Nissan CVTs?

Struck out subaru forester from the cvt list. Good luck sa 1%.

[hardwang]

[DCT
1. Ford Ecosport pre 2018 - definitely problematic
2. Ford Fiesta, all models?
3. Ford Focus, all models?
4. Hyundai Accent diesel
5. Hyundai Veloster

CVT
1. Nissan CVTs?

Struck out subaru forester from the cvt list. Good luck sa 1%.

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[hardwang]

All cars will break down over time. It is up to the owner how to address his challenges with maintainance.


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True. Depends how deep the owner's wallet is

[chronicle]

Wala na ba ibang source bukod kay scotty kilmer?
That guy is biased as it can get.

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[Nicotoy]

My FXT is 3 years old already. No issues with its utility, handling, and performance. My only wish is that the engine's tuning should have been similar to the WRX.

If you want to save on maintenance, you can bring your own oil & parts at Motor Image and just pay them for the labor cost of the service. For my FXT, I had the CVTF changed at 36k KM and had it done at Fusion R. Subaru manual did not dictate a full fluid change (13L total) of the CVT tranny and a normal drain & refill (6L) will do. Spent 10k last January for the CVTF change and gear oil change (includes fluids and labor).

May I know where you sourced the CVTF? I think I'll be due for a change soon.

[hardwang]

Wala na ba ibang source bukod kay scotty kilmer?
That guy is biased as it can get.

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Lineartronic CVT Reliability - Subaru Problems

[yebo]

DCT
1. Ford Ecosport pre 2018 - definitely problematic
2. Ford Fiesta, all models?
3. Ford Focus, all models?
4. Hyundai Accent diesel
5. Hyundai Veloster

CVT
1. Nissan CVTs?
2. Subaru Forester 2014-present

[istan]

Lineartronic CVT Reliability - Subaru Problems

First, subaru marketed the CVT in USA as NON-maintenance unit
Second, problems crop up at 60,000 miles or 5 yrs.

Subaru Ph does differently.
First, no such thing as lifetime fluid
Second, they change cvtf every 40k kms

Problem solved.




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[istan]

DCT
1. Ford Ecosport pre 2018 - definitely problematic
2. Ford Fiesta, all models?
3. Ford Focus, all models?
4. Hyundai Accent diesel
5. Hyundai Veloster

CVT
1. Nissan CVTs?
2. Subaru Forester 2014-present

Ford had DCT problems because they used a dry clutch type of DCT. This heats up thus malfunctions in stop n go traffic.

On highway driving and high torque conditions (climbing, engine braking) clutches simply cannot take the heat. Thus it malfunctions, change in TCM simply changes how it shifts, so it cools down somewhat.

VAG Group, etc uses wet type dct. Performs wonderfully.

2004 Lancer MX is one of the first CVT here. No problems heard. Mine still shifts like new. Religious cvtf change at 40k kms.

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[istan]

Early Honda city cvt failures are attributed to wrong fluid placed at the factory. It was their first cvt. Oops!

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