DCT and CVT, which car has one?

[leonleon]

Toyota CVT's may be better than others, but they still have some problems here and there.

They are still not bulletproof.

Buyer still beware.

Better to avoid if it can be avoided, IMO.

But then every other automaker out there is going this route.

This Toyota CVT recall was just last year.

Toyota Corolla Hatchback Recalled - Consumer Reports

Toyota is recalling about 3,400 of its 2019 Toyota Corolla Hatchbacks because of a faulty component in the transmission. If the part fails while the car is in motion, it could cause the vehicle to lose its power. This could increase the risk of a crash—especially if the failure happens when the vehicle is traveling at a high speed, the automaker says.

Toyota says it plans to replace the transmissions in all affected vehicles, and will alert owners as soon as it is ready to make those repairs.

Only Corolla Hatchbacks with a continuously variable transmission (CVT) are included in the recall.

[_Qwerty_]

How about Honda's CVT?

[JohnM]

Can you say the same for Golf GTS DCT? Hoping to get one kaso na discontinued.

My officemate is happy with his daily-driven GTS. No shuddering or hesitation even in traffic.

The Lineartronic CVT in our XV is smooth. Too smooth in fact that it can lull you to a false sense of speed. Lagpas speed limit ka na pala without noticing.

The Jatco CVT in my in-law's Mirage is so-so. It does the job and that's it. It's barely used though so they haven't reported any issues yet.

The SkyActiv 6AT in our 3 is a fun little box. It holds gears when floored and blips the throttle aggressively on hard braking. It can get a bit jumpy in slow traffic but the heavy pedal helps you modulate the first few millimeters of travel.

My preference? Still the Sky 6AT. Feels like a manual without the inconvenience of a third pedal, the blandness of a CVT, or the complexity of a DCT. My wife seems to agree dahil mas preferred nyang i-daily ang 3 ko instead of her XV Umuwi yan one time and after she got out of the car sabi ko "hinataw mo no?" Sheepish grin "paano mo nalaman?". "Tagal mamatay ng fan oh."

[Athrunzala]

Toyota CVT's may be better than others, but they still have some problems here and there.

They are still not bulletproof.

Buyer still beware.

Better to avoid if it can be avoided, IMO.

But then every other automaker out there is going this route.

This Toyota CVT recall was just last year.

Toyota Corolla Hatchback Recalled - Consumer Reports

kung bibili kayo ng CVT, next decade na lang, by that time siguro very durable na siya, at alam ng mga neighborhood mechanics kung paano siya ayusin

[JohnM]

kung bibili kayo ng CVT, next decade na lang, by that time siguro very durable na siya, at alam ng mga neighborhood mechanics kung paano siya ayusin

There are very few neighborhood mechanics that can properly service even an old 4AT. Even the so-called "experts" just replace the parts with surplus ones and hope for the best. If the shop insists on using the cheapest ATF because "pare-pareho lang lahat yan" you best run away.

[hardwang]

kung bibili kayo ng CVT, next decade na lang, by that time siguro very durable na siya, at alam ng mga neighborhood mechanics kung paano siya ayusin

Sorry but CVTs are not designed to be repaired. Once it craps out, you have to replace the whole transmission.

[StockEngine]

Toyota CVT's may be better than others, but they still have some problems here and there.

They are still not bulletproof.

Buyer still beware.

Better to avoid if it can be avoided, IMO.

But then every other automaker out there is going this route.

This Toyota CVT recall was just last year.

Toyota Corolla Hatchback Recalled - Consumer Reports

this was just a production snafu.. all of them were replaced na.

[chronicle]

kung bibili kayo ng CVT, next decade na lang, by that time siguro very durable na siya, at alam ng mga neighborhood mechanics kung paano siya ayusin

Ok. So next yr na. Hehe
Sealed componenent sya. At kung may magbukas man nyan, san hahanap ng pyesa? Wala kang mabibili sa casa na specific part ng cvt trans.

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[hardwang]

this was just a production snafu.. all of them were replaced na.

Toyota Recalls Thousands of Corollas, Here?s What Happened - YouTube

Even the best of the CVTs is still a CVT. Even a diehard Toyota fan like Scotty doesn't think it will last.

[JohnM]

CVT clutch packs and valve bodies can be replaced (surplus usually). Madugo lang kung either belt/chain or pulley na ang problema. Those pulleys are under very high pressure to keep the drive belt/chain from slipping.

[lowslowbenz]

The Lineartronic CVT in our XV is smooth. Too smooth in fact that it can lull you to a false sense of speed. Lagpas speed limit ka na pala without noticing.

How is XV ownership, maintenance wise?

The 2019 XV with eyesight is so far ticking all the right boxes for me.

[Egan101]

If I have to be asked, I would want the quickness of a DCT and the smoothness of a CVT. I am hoping that maybe my next car would have one of those newer AT trannies (8-spd or 10-spd).

Overall though, a car's full merit cannot be judged by the type of tranny on it.

[JohnM]

How is XV ownership, maintenance wise?

The 2019 XV with eyesight is so far ticking all the right boxes for me.

We bought our base model XV almost two years ago. Na-inggit sister-in-law ko and she got the model with Eyesight early this year. She's had several anecdotes already of how Eyesight saved them from accidents. Harabas kasi mag-drive tuwang-tuwa sa performance.

The casa uses synthetic oil and so far bihirang lumampas ng 5k per service. The big ones are when the CVT fluid is due for replacement. I think it's every 40k. 19k CVT fluid pa lang.

BTW long time no hear LSB ;)

[Egan101]

We bought our base model XV almost two years ago. Na-inggit sister-in-law ko and she got the model with Eyesight early this year. She's had several anecdotes already of how Eyesight saved them from accidents. Harabas kasi mag-drive tuwang-tuwa sa performance.

The casa uses synthetic oil and so far bihirang lumampas ng 5k per service. The big ones are when the CVT fluid is due for replacement. I think it's every 40k. 19k CVT fluid pa lang.

BTW long time no hear LSB ;)

My FXT is 3 years old already. No issues with its utility, handling, and performance. My only wish is that the engine's tuning should have been similar to the WRX.

If you want to save on maintenance, you can bring your own oil & parts at Motor Image and just pay them for the labor cost of the service. For my FXT, I had the CVTF changed at 36k KM and had it done at Fusion R. Subaru manual did not dictate a full fluid change (13L total) of the CVT tranny and a normal drain & refill (6L) will do. Spent 10k last January for the CVTF change and gear oil change (includes fluids and labor).

[JohnM]

My FXT is 3 years old already. No issues with its utility, handling, and performance. My only wish is that the engine's tuning should have been similar to the WRX.

If you want to save on maintenance, you can bring your own oil & parts at Motor Image and just pay them for the labor cost of the service. For my FXT, I had the CVTF changed at 36k KM and had it done at Fusion R. Subaru manual did not dictate a full fluid change (13L total) of the CVT tranny and a normal drain & refill (6L) will do. Spent 10k last January for the CVTF change and gear oil change (includes fluids and labor).

Sounds good. Lagi kaming overdue sa servicing anyway since bihira na sya nagagamit. Nasa 10k mileage pa lang and it's been with us for 1.5 years already. Tapos nagsara pa BGC branch tsk tsk.

Based on what I read online it looks like the common consensus is that the VAG (Volks, Audi, Porsche, etc) make the best DCTs ;)

[lowslowbenz]

We bought our base model XV almost two years ago. Na-inggit sister-in-law ko and she got the model with Eyesight early this year. She's had several anecdotes already of how Eyesight saved them from accidents. Harabas kasi mag-drive tuwang-tuwa sa performance.

The casa uses synthetic oil and so far bihirang lumampas ng 5k per service. The big ones are when the CVT fluid is due for replacement. I think it's every 40k. 19k CVT fluid pa lang.

BTW long time no hear LSB ;)

So Eyesight is what it seems to be. That is good to know. Thanks

Yep, been busy on quite a lot of things lately.

The BGC Subaru was closed already?

I was there last Sunday afternoon sa showroom nila at SM Aura.

[JohnM]

So Eyesight is what it seems to be. That is good to know. Thanks

Yep, been busy on quite a lot of things lately.

The BGC Subaru was closed already?

I was there last Sunday afternoon sa showroom nila at SM Aura.

Showroom na lang sa Aura. No more servicing.

There are Youtube videos of how Eyesight handles EDSA. You might want to check those out.

Why not wait for the next Legacy? Baka mas bagay sa yo yon

[Egan101]

Sounds good. Lagi kaming overdue sa servicing anyway since bihira na sya nagagamit. Nasa 10k mileage pa lang and it's been with us for 1.5 years already. Tapos nagsara pa BGC branch tsk tsk.

Based on what I read online it looks like the common consensus is that the VAG (Volks, Audi, Porsche, etc) make the best DCTs ;)

Just buy fully synthetic outside and bring it to Motor Image. If you are Fusion R, you can just bring it there for the usual change oil. You can just follow the 10k KM actual mileage or 12 month cycle when changing oil.

BMW, Mercedes, and VW all use their own version of a DCT. The VW group just use DCT on a lot more vehicles than BMW or Mercedes. We have a Jetta 1.6L TDI and the DCT behaves as expected. It is not as clanky as Ford's Powershift but you can feel the gear hunting at low rpms. It is quick to change gears though on open roads. VW's DSG also adapts (learns) to the driving style of its usual driver.

So Eyesight is what it seems to be. That is good to know. Thanks

Yep, been busy on quite a lot of things lately.

The BGC Subaru was closed already?

I was there last Sunday afternoon sa showroom nila at SM Aura.

Motor Image BGC closed early this year. Their SAs were split between C5 Pasig and Aseana branches. The SM Aura branch is just a showroom, no PMS services offered there.

[yebo]

My FXT is 3 years old already. No issues with its utility, handling, and performance. My only wish is that the engine's tuning should have been similar to the WRX.

If you want to save on maintenance, you can bring your own oil & parts at Motor Image and just pay them for the labor cost of the service. For my FXT, I had the CVTF changed at 36k KM and had it done at Fusion R. Subaru manual did not dictate a full fluid change (13L total) of the CVT tranny and a normal drain & refill (6L) will do. Spent 10k last January for the CVTF change and gear oil change (includes fluids and labor).

So no issues on the fxt cvt?

[hardwang]

So no issues on the fxt cvt?

I’m guessing its still in good condition. CVTs rarely have issues in the early years especially within or near the end of the warranty period.