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    #11
    Quote Originally Posted by jellofurtos View Post
    Hello, magandang umaga po sa inyong lahat, may question lang po regarding sa open deed of sale. Bale po kasi naka bili ako ng unit sa "second owner na din" pero naka open deed of sale sya, pero po yung 3 copies of 2 valid ids with 3 signatures is expired na po yung pirma. Which means expired na yung ID's ni first owner bago ma punta sakin yung unit.

    My quesiton po is magkakaroon po ba ko nang problem sa pagpapa close deed of sale non dahil nag expired na yung pirma ni first owner?

    PS: yung motorcycle is bought ng 2021 and is registered and has original OR/CR and yung license indicated is nag expire nung 2022.

    Thank you po in advanced
    errr, from what i understand,
    the pirmas do not expire, po.
    it is the ID coupled therein, that expires.
    the expiration date is on the ID itself.

    from our experience (we sold the car some years ago, with then-valid IDs),
    come the time buyer wanted to transfer ownership to his name, expired na the IDs; he came over to ask for new, un-expired ID xeroxes + signatures.

    expired registrations will need to be updated, i.e., you will have to pay for the years vehicle was not registered + penalties.
    buyer can use it as leverage, for more discounts.

    second and third and fourth ownerships is fine, as long as the original deeds of sales + valid IDs, from one seller to the next buyer, are included in the documentations.
    changes of ownership, however many they may be, must be documented without any break.
    pareho lang yata ang singil, regardless of how many previous owners the vehicle had.

    good luck.
    Last edited by dr. d; January 8th, 2024 at 11:49 AM.

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    #12
    Ung kaso naman ng sa akin, may notarized DOS kani pero 2 years later nung nag activate ako ng LTMS, nasa pangalan ko pa rin ung motor [emoji28]

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    #13
    Quote Originally Posted by papi smith View Post
    Ung kaso naman ng sa akin, may notarized DOS kani pero 2 years later nung nag activate ako ng LTMS, nasa pangalan ko pa rin ung motor [emoji28]
    when this LTMS system was activated a couple of years ago,
    we discovered that a car we had sold ten years ago to a bayan seller, was still in my name, but with address somewhere far up north of NCR.
    highs.

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    #14
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    when this LTMS system was activated a couple of years ago,
    we discovered that a car we had sold ten years ago to a bayan seller, was still in my name, but with address somewhere far up north of NCR.
    highs.
    I don't see any address in the vehicles listed in my LTMS [emoji848]

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    #15
    Quote Originally Posted by papi smith View Post
    I don't see any address in the vehicles listed in my LTMS [emoji848]
    when the portal was opened, i do not know why or how, but my old car that i had sold years ago, was there!
    since it was still under my name, i asked where it was.
    he told me, and according to him, it hadn't been renewed the last 1-2 years already, and advised me that i should have it renewed soon, to avoid penalty.
    Last edited by dr. d; January 8th, 2024 at 10:11 PM.

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    #16
    in my cased po mali po ang naka lagay na displacement sa cr isasabay ko na din po sana mag pa change owner kasu po yung deed of sale nawala at wala din xerox 2 valid id with 3 sign, Mostly deceased na ang 1st owner nakapangalan sa cr and 2nd owner wala din copy ng dos from 1st owner, i have Orignal OR/CR any adviced?

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    #17
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    errr, from what i understand,
    the pirmas do not expire, po.
    it is the ID coupled therein, that expires.
    the expiration date is on the ID itself.

    from our experience (we sold the car some years ago, with then-valid IDs),
    come the time buyer wanted to transfer ownership to his name, expired na the IDs; he came over to ask for new, un-expired ID xeroxes + signatures.

    expired registrations will need to be updated, i.e., you will have to pay for the years vehicle was not registered + penalties.
    buyer can use it as leverage, for more discounts.

    second and third and fourth ownerships is fine, as long as the original deeds of sales + valid IDs, from one seller to the next buyer, are included in the documentations.
    changes of ownership, however many they may be, must be documented without any break.
    pareho lang yata ang singil, regardless of how many previous owners the vehicle had.

    good luck.

    hello po good day! pwedi po ba ma bypass yung 2nd seller kasi hindi niya na pa change name from first owner?

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    #18
    Quote Originally Posted by shaira118 View Post
    hello po good day! pwedi po ba ma bypass yung 2nd seller kasi hindi niya na pa change name from first owner?
    i... do not know...

    is the deed of sale in question notarized?
    if something significant happens to the car during the time it is in possession by the second owner, and you buy the car, who will be responsible for the consequences of that significant event?

    questions... questions...

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    #19
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i... do not know...

    is the deed of sale in question notarized?
    if something significant happens to the car during the time it is in possession by the second owner, and you buy the car, who will be responsible for the consequences of that significant event?

    questions... questions...
    i bought the car with a open deed of sale but nabasa siya and lost it, the 2nd owner also dont have a copy of open DOS only or/cr but i cnt contact anymore i want to change owner isasabay ko sa renew any adviced,po

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    #20
    Quote Originally Posted by shaira118 View Post
    i bought the car with a open deed of sale but nabasa siya and lost it, the 2nd owner also dont have a copy of open DOS only or/cr but i cnt contact anymore i want to change owner isasabay ko sa renew any adviced,po
    see the other thread, po.

    morale of the story to the other readers: buy only cars with proverbial clean title.
    apologies to the post-er.
    Last edited by dr. d; March 25th, 2024 at 08:34 AM.

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