Car Sales Data (2021)

[hardwang]

It’s the condition of our road in pinas that mostly drives the buyer to go for suv, crossover and ppv.

I also used to drive sedan but has shifted to CRV/CX5.

Im not into a PPV, its always a choice.


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Hindi ba dati pa ganun yung daanan dito sa pinas? We have crappy roads for as long as I can remember. What changed? Madami naman sedan dati.

[jut703]

Hindi ba dati pa ganun yung daanan dito sa pinas? We have crappy roads for as long as I can remember. What changed? Madami naman sedan dati.

1. Roads are worse now. C5 is god-awful, especially the middle lane. Road “fixes” are very bad patch jobs that make the road uneven - better than potholes, but still bad for soft/low-riding cars.

2. More alternative options. Crossovers, PPVs, lifestyle pickups have risen to prominence only in the last 20 yrs. Ride height of sedans also lower now vs 90s.


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[viper888]

People who buy more expensive sedans usually have more than one car. Oftentimes the sedan is the kid's or wife's car. The market for sedans between a Vios and a C-Class/3-series is dead. Camry, Accords, Corollas, and Civics are outsold by SUV variants. Every other household here used to have a Camry, now there is only one.

Sedans are either economy cars (Vios) or Luxury Cars (Mercs, BMWs, Lexus)

[ice15]

1. Roads are worse now. C5 is god-awful, especially the middle lane. Road “fixes” are very bad patch jobs that make the road uneven - better than potholes, but still bad for soft/low-riding cars.

I was torn before posting a reply...

my old reply was, young drivers never experienced how bad NLEX and SLEX was

kaso, during my college days, may drag racing pa sa Mindanao Ave and Libis. later Macapagal Ave
sa state ng roads ngayon, good luck sa car mo if you race

[Walter]

CUV ground clearance these days is what used to be the ground clearance of sedans before ... sedans these days have even lower ground clearances ...

[jut703]

I was torn before posting a reply...

my old reply was, young drivers never experienced how bad NLEX and SLEX was

kaso, during my college days, may drag racing pa sa Mindanao Ave and Libis. later Macapagal Ave
sa state ng roads ngayon, good luck sa car mo if you race

Naabutan ko yung time na wala pang expressways papuntang Baguio, yes matagal byahe via McArthur but hindi sira sira daan. Mabilis na 6 hrs before, ngayon 3-4 hrs nalang.

But for example road to Bicol - no highway then and now, pero yung Maharlika Highway lumala condition now because of the very bad patch jobs.

Metro Manila road quality also sucks a lot now even compared to 5 years ago lang. Rainy season masisira, pag inayos afterwards, di na pantay.


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[ice15]

SUV/Crossover vs Car

Yes, mas madaming cars sa road bec the "best sellers" we see are cheaper din. I wonder how much dent will the Raize make sa market ng Vios and City

Looking at our office na lang. 4 na lang kami who uses a car.
After the 4 cars (our Pres not included), may Coolray and Vitara, then its all Fortuner and Everest.

Our President bought a Civic RS a year ago which she uses kapag walang outside meeting as nawala daw traffic during ECQ... pero her normal car is still an Expedition.

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its all about preference. My wife and daughter prefers an SUV/Crossover
I prefer a car

wife and daughter hates it kapag naisasayad nila yung ilalim ng car ko (my car is not even lowered)
sa loob loob ko... imagine yung galit ko na puro gasgas yung ilalim ng car ko.
pero outside, I smile and tell them its ok

[ice15]

nang hihinayang ako sa hyundai. they built up all the equity based on their value for money only to squander it away. i will guess this can be attributed to their pricing. maybe taxes or what not. they can pose themselves as a premium brand or euro alternative but clearly that hasn't been accepted by the buying public. also bukod sa mahal medyo long in the tooth na yung suv offerings nila.

Hyundai PH 4th in CV sales in 2021 | Carmudi

[carxynogen]

Hyundai PH 4th in CV sales in 2021 | Carmudi

Hyundai units in US such as Santa Fe are appreciated as value for money compared to other competitor units.
Pero dito sa pinas, premium yung pricing, marami pang tinanggal na features compared to US units.

[Akky M]

SUV/Crossover vs Car

Yes, mas madaming cars sa road bec the "best sellers" we see are cheaper din. I wonder how much dent will the Raize make sa market ng Vios and City

Looking at our office na lang. 4 na lang kami who uses a car.
After the 4 cars (our Pres not included), may Coolray and Vitara, then its all Fortuner and Everest.

Our President bought a Civic RS a year ago which she uses kapag walang outside meeting as nawala daw traffic during ECQ... pero her normal car is still an Expedition.

***

its all about preference. My wife and daughter prefers an SUV/Crossover
I prefer a car

wife and daughter hates it kapag naisasayad nila yung ilalim ng car ko (my car is not even lowered)
sa loob loob ko... imagine yung galit ko na puro gasgas yung ilalim ng car ko.
pero outside, I smile and tell them its ok

Women in most cases would prefer an suv or crossover to drive since they feel more safer especially in pinas road context.

When we are looking for another ride late last year, my wife and daugther wont even look at a sedan in the car dealership [emoji16]


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[Vodka]

SUV/Crossover vs Car

Yes, mas madaming cars sa road bec the "best sellers" we see are cheaper din. I wonder how much dent will the Raize make sa market ng Vios and City

Looking at our office na lang. 4 na lang kami who uses a car.
After the 4 cars (our Pres not included), may Coolray and Vitara, then its all Fortuner and Everest.

Our President bought a Civic RS a year ago which she uses kapag walang outside meeting as nawala daw traffic during ECQ... pero her normal car is still an Expedition.

***

its all about preference. My wife and daughter prefers an SUV/Crossover
I prefer a car

wife and daughter hates it kapag naisasayad nila yung ilalim ng car ko (my car is not even lowered)
sa loob loob ko... imagine yung galit ko na puro gasgas yung ilalim ng car ko.
pero outside, I smile and tell them its ok

it's nice to have a trunk (sedan). actually for daily errands and stuff i still prefer to drive the sedan. more practical. better visibility all around. better aerodynamics so better fuel efficiency. ground clearance isn't an issue w/ normal driving. and the aforementioned trunk: nice to have a separate compartment

but i drive the crossover when i need to carry a big box. sedan trunk lids have tiny opening the 200mm ground clearance is also useful on dirt roads or light trails. finally, i can't hang a motorcycle off the back of my sedan, but i could w/ my crossover

[viper888]

The falling demand for sedans is not just a local trend, sales are falling in the USA as well. Personally, I still prefer sedans because they’re nicer to drive. I will probably reconsider that when I settle down.


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[yapoy86]

kasi most CUV drives like a sedan na.. kaya siguro nag shift ang buyers to CUV.. drives like a sedan.. pero may good ground clearance and more cabin space

[papi smith]

1. Roads are worse now. C5 is god-awful, especially the middle lane. Road “fixes” are very bad patch jobs that make the road uneven - better than potholes, but still bad for soft/low-riding cars.


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During my younger days as a salesman, I was assigned a Civic eg, I used this car on rough provincial roads. Also, the place where I lived had roads mostly riddled with potholes. That sedan was tough, and I still think today that they are as fit as our CUVs and SUVs but with better ride. The only thing I hate with a sedan is it's low ride, not because of bad roads but because I am always blinded by the headlights of higher vehicles.

[yapoy86]

tsaka isa pa yung mababa talaga sedan.. hirap maupo.. unlike sa CUV.. mas madali pumasok at umupo kasi halos waist level yung seats.. sa sedan kasi need to pull yourself up para lumabas

[ice15]

just sharing (asaran with an HS/College friend last Christmas)

(2021)
Me - car
Him - SUV

pre, maalala mo nung time na ginagawa yung skyway tapos on a weekend morning iniisip natin sa SLEX na kasya yung car natin sa ilalim/gitna ng trailer... ala fast and the furious 1?

tapos nag aasaran tayo kung sino si Bryan o si Dom...

akalain mo, ikaw pala si Hobbs

[jut703]

tsaka isa pa yung mababa talaga sedan.. hirap maupo.. unlike sa CUV.. mas madali pumasok at umupo kasi halos waist level yung seats.. sa sedan kasi need to pull yourself up para lumabas

This is the main reason my dad no longer likes sedans. He enjoys spirited drives as much as I do but the day to day difficulty of ingress and egress makes him choose crossovers these days.


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[Egan101]

Kung libre lang naman, ok na ako sa sedan. My wife is hinting on getting a sedan for her next corporate car.

I am thinking of getting a sedan for my toy/project car. Driving it on weekends or some spirited runs. I need one with a potent engine - a turbo 4-banger or a big NA V6.


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[jut703]

Kung libre lang naman, ok na ako sa sedan. My wife is hinting on getting a sedan for her next corporate car.

I am thinking of getting a sedan for my toy/project car. Driving it on weekends or some spirited runs. I need one with a potent engine - a turbo 4-banger or a big NA V6.


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I have an NA V6 to suggest to you [emoji48][emoji48][emoji48]


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[coiter]

tsaka isa pa yung mababa talaga sedan.. hirap maupo.. unlike sa CUV.. mas madali pumasok at umupo kasi halos waist level yung seats.. sa sedan kasi need to pull yourself up para lumabas

every time i step out of a sedan without looking, nagugulat ako sa pag apak ko kasi kalye na agad. then andun nga yung pag pull out ng katawan. minsan napapagapang ako palabas hehe

when i upgraded my wife's car to an mpv (crossovers were among the choices), she swore na di na sya babalik sa sedan. sa ride height kasi she can look over other vehicles tapos less kaba pag tumaas tubig sa kalye. then there's the tailgate opening and loading capacity. pwedeng nakatayo yung school bags/strollers so she still has space for groceries.