Car for newbie New Ford Fiesta or New Toyota Vios?

[Egan101]

^^^ I have a Fiesta Ecoboost and I am very happy with it. No question on its performance. It can scoot away easily and has enough juice to keep on accelerating even in triple digit speeds. Max torque is available at less than 3k rpm but you can still feel it pull further at 4k-5k rpm (I think it's the overboost function). Handling is great, even if it has electronic power steering, firm and composed. The suspension maybe a bit on the firm side but I like it that way. It's not a boring drive.

Regarding the Powershift issues, I never experienced the jerking issues. However, driving a 6DCT is not like driving the usual torque-converter AT or CVT tranny. You can feel the clutch engaging in low gears and you have to learn to manage to step on the gas pedal. The gears disengages once you get to a stop and engages on 1st gear on a low crawl then snaps on to 2nd gear if you put more pressure on the gas pedal. On the straights, once you get past 3rd gear, it can get to 6th gear easily once you floor that gas pedal.

[Jbitpc]

^^^ if you don't mind me asking, what's the fc of the fiesta?

A friend of mine has the fiesta and she gets 7km/l at best in metro manila traffic but she's not complaining because it's fun on track.

Currently using vios 1.5G and idling generously while waiting for the car in front to move. Mileage at 6+km /li. Wondering what car thead opener bought? I assume it's the fiesta.

[Jbitpc]

^^^ if you don't mind me asking, what's the fc of the fiesta?

A friend of mine has the fiesta and she gets 7km/l at best in metro manila traffic but she's not complaining because it's fun on track.

Currently using vios 1.5G and idling generously while waiting for the car in front to move. Mileage at 6+km /li. Wondering what car thead opener bought? I assume it's the fiesta.

[Neil31]

Ford Fiesta.

[happylone]

^^^ if you don't mind me asking, what's the fc of the fiesta?

A friend of mine has the fiesta and she gets 7km/l at best in metro manila traffic but she's not complaining because it's fun on track.

Ford Fiesta 1.6L Sport

City: 7.5L/100km = 13.33km/L
Highway: 4.5L/100km= 22.22km/L (Prius like FC!)


Ford Fiesta 1.4L Treand Sedan

City: 8.1L/100km = 12.34km/L
Highway: 5.9L/100km = 16.9km/L

TO: All Fiesta owners

[beni23]

^ and thanks to that my friends think that I am a rich guy because I own 2 ford suvs. What they don't know is that it's not that expensive to maintain it, sometimes even cheaper to maintain it versus my mitsubishi.


#Retzing

[artsky]

It is best to test drive both units then decide.

[RIPmyBrother]

Hi all, I want to but a car

A little background about me regarding cars:

- I work in Ortigas, so i will most likely drive via commonwealth or katipunan.
- I prefer M/T because I have no experience driving a A/T
- Budget is 800k
- Im not fond of 2nd hand cars.

I'm currently torn between the New Ford Fiesta (2014 model) and the New Vios 2013, leaning more towards Fiesta.

I want to know which car is worthy to be my first.
And if possible which other car can you recommend for me.

Thank you very much for your time.

Dear Sir,

i hope it is O.K. for you when i answer you because i am a foreigner in your country, i am german.
Ford is not really bad but the rust proof from ford is not so good, that is my experiance with four fords in the last 30 years.
The ford engines are long lasting but not so fuel efficiant compared to the Toyota engines.
For me the toyota is over all the better car, higher quality and more fuel efficiant, all over your country you find dealers to supply your with service and spare parts.
Not so good with the ford and also the situation with second hand parts when your car is older and you want to save money.
The other part is when you want to sell your car again, toyota is known as a very good brand and so you can sell it easier and better, for a higher price.
Manual or automatic transmission, i heard sometimes in the philippines that only wifes drive matic because they can not shift manually.
This is a not true because all the modern high end sports cars like ferrari and lamborgini or comfortable cars like the s-class mercedes have matic trannys and they are not only driven from wifes.
With matic you drive more relaxed speciall in the heavy traffic in manila, you pay that with a little higher fuel cost and the matic tranny needs a little bit more maintenance, every 60-80k km change the atf oil (auto matic transmission fluid) and filter.
Drive a matic car and a manual and you will see what you like more, it is very easy to drive.
At least, drive both cars and buy the one that gives your the best comfortable feeling, than it is your car.
Good luck and drive always save.

Best Regards
Ruediger

[[archie]]

It's pointless to compare PMS service because it only pertains to oil change and filters. If this is the basis, the best maintenance car would be a mazda.

The parts advantage of Toyota honda mitsubishi shines outside the walls of casa. The vast supply of those brands (especially Toyota) is very evident in banawe and evangelista. Surplus and replacement parts are at almost any parts store. Try asking for surplus a for a Ford and you'll be disappointed.

As a car enthusiast myself, I like tinkering with my car. As a budget conscious person, I like to source for replacement parts for non engine related problems. For Ford, your best bet is the original motor craft brand and it's seldom that Ford have non motor craft parts. Motor craft parts cost 2x to 3x more than the replacement counterpart of Toyota and sometimes even more.

I'll give some examples to drive the point home.

Replacement power Window assembly for old model altis cost 2500, guess how much for Ford.

Replacement rack and pinion assembly for old model altis is around 10k to 15k, guess how much for Ford.

Point is, it's not a myth. It's very evident if you go banawe and evangelista.

On that note, please stop saying that the cost of maintenance is just the same as Toyota honda mitsubishi. Especially to newbies that are more gullible than us, enthusiast. I say this to let the newbies know what they are in for with Ford. Not to discourage but to set their expectation.

If you have the means to afford Ford parts and don't mind it... By all means get it. If your the kind of person that has the financial capability to replace your ride every 4 to 5 years, by all means get it.

O ya, wreck your a/t and say surplus for Ford is as easy as Toyota honda mitsubishi. Think again.

[[archie]]

Sounds like your mind is made up with the fiesta. Go for it, very good handling and good torque for a small car. It's the best fun to price range out there.

[e2romo]

*TS - lurk ka rin sa mga forums ng owners nito. Both are quite new releases so di natin alam kung may sakit ang mga ito o wala. So far ang nasagap ko lang on the new Vios ay naninipisan sila sa kaha, may parang latang tunog when they close the door.

Sad to say wala pang masyadong owners feedback sa new Fiesta. Kung ito mapili nyo makikibalita na lang po kami sa inyo, FR.

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[maclab]

*TS - lurk ka rin sa mga forums ng owners nito. Both are quite new releases so di natin alam kung may sakit ang mga ito o wala. So far ang nasagap ko lang on the new Vios ay naninipisan sila sa kaha, may parang latang tunog when they close the door.

Sad to say wala pang masyadong owners feedback sa new Fiesta. Kung ito mapili nyo makikibalita na lang po kami sa inyo, FR.

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Oo ng eh, wala pa tayong real world feedback dito or kahit sa ibang forums.

[Darkaven]

Oo ng eh, wala pa tayong real world feedback dito or kahit sa ibang forums.

Hi Guys, On my opinion based on personal experience of having 1.5G all new Vios, It has all the power you need but since the body has a lighter weight than the latter, we can assume that the 1.3E versions still has the ample amount of power to strive. When it comes to body, its overall better than the previous vios and also sa fiesta. What I really like most is the looks of a combined Lancer EX and Honda City for the facelift.

For me:

Exterior wise: Vios > Fiesta (9/10 for Vios) (7/10 for Fiesta)
Interior: Vios has the elegant and sporty design so its not bad for the score but what Im fond of to Fiesta is the Entertainment system. LCD screen and voice control is a rocking technology which is fun to use. Just think that your trying to change music by just saying "Play music Pusong Bato" over the voice control. Fiesta > Vios (9/10 Fiesta) (8/10 Vios) Take note: back seat of fiesta doesnt have the comfy leg room while the All new Vios has enough space.

Overall since I didnt drive Fiesta yet, Im going for the Vios when it comes to overall function except for the entertainment system :p

Hope this would help.

[AG4]

Hi Guys, On my opinion based on personal experience of having 1.5G all new Vios, It has all the power you need but since the body has a lighter weight than the latter, we can assume that the 1.3E versions still has the ample amount of power to strive. When it comes to body, its overall better than the previous vios and also sa fiesta. What I really like most is the looks of a combined Lancer EX and Honda City for the facelift.

For me:

Exterior wise: Vios > Fiesta (9/10 for Vios) (7/10 for Fiesta)
Interior: Vios has the elegant and sporty design so its not bad for the score but what Im fond of to Fiesta is the Entertainment system. LCD screen and voice control is a rocking technology which is fun to use. Just think that your trying to change music by just saying "Play music Pusong Bato" over the voice control. Fiesta > Vios (9/10 Fiesta) (8/10 Vios) Take note: back seat of fiesta doesnt have the comfy leg room while the All new Vios has enough space.

Overall since I didnt drive Fiesta yet, Im going for the Vios when it comes to overall function except for the entertainment system :p

Hope this would help.

If you're a driving enthusiast/ car guy, you'd appreciate the Fiesta's handling, performance and solid build, characteristics that can be traced back to its Ford of Europe roots. It's also one of the safest cars in its segment.
If you want a decent car to get you from point A to point B, then get a Vios.

[dct]

If you're a driving enthusiast/ car guy, you'd appreciate the Fiesta's handling, performance and solid build, characteristics that can be traced back to its Ford of Europe roots. It's also one of the safest cars in its segment.
If you want a decent car to get you from point A to point B, then get a Vios.

i cannot agree with the fiesta's performance. it's a bit lacking. although i agree with handling and solid build. add to that the features inside

[Mr. Budget]

will not even consider fiesta. best buy in its category would be vios if ur also considering unit cost. peru if not, overall da city wins .

[Adolfsden]

Sa looks lamang si Fiesta pero cost of ownership and reliability sa Vios na ko.

[mitchiko22]

what sedan is the best for newbies?

[jut703]

what sedan is the best for newbies?

If by newbie you mean a first-time car owner who just needs an affordable car to bring them from point A to point B in a fairly comfortable manner, the Vios is a great choice.

It's reasonably priced, has all the features you need in a car, is spacious enough, and is very cheap and easy to maintain.

It's got decent handling but it's certainly not as exciting as a Fiesta or Mazda 2, but as a first-timer you won't really appreciate great handling that much yet.


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[Walter]

For a newbie, Toyota Vios, avoid the Ford Fiesta.