Buying "loose cargo" cars in Customs

[Ryan Bayona]

Hi,

May nag-offer kase sa kin ng Honda Civic na brand new,sobrang baba ng price. The catch: its a loose cargo. Sabi nung kausap ko complete at malinis raw ung papers non at sila na bahala sa LTO registration.

Inaalala ko ung tax, ako pa rin ba magbabayad non? Pwede ko rin ba yon ibenta kung sakali? Hindi na ba yon considered as smuggled or hot cars?

Pasensya na madaming tanong, bago ko kase bitawan ung pera kelangan sureball muna

Salamat!

[dr. d]

what on earth does "loose cargo" mean?
if i have to guess, i'd say it came in without official importation papers. it means the car came in via the back door.... smuggled... technical or otherwise.
someone has to pay import taxes... a legitimate local unit would probably cost less...
besides, honda phils will probably not honor any and all warranties. they might even refuse to service it. period.
but i could be wrong..

i'd stay away, it it were me.. let's help our country.

[Ryan Bayona]

what on earth does "loose cargo" mean?
if i have to guess, i'd say it came in without official importation papers. it means the car came in via the back door.... smuggled... technical or otherwise.
just like the port irene cars..
someone has to pay import taxes... you might end up paying less had you bought a legitimate local unit.
besides, honda phils will probably not honor any and all warranties. they might even refuse to service it. period.
but i could be wrong..

i'd stay away, it it were me.. let's help our country.

The seller said it came in a container along with the sacks of rice. It was declared a second hand unit but then they discovered it wasn't. So now they auctioned the car and apparently the papers are now "clean". I'll ask him about the tax thing since I don't want to cover it :D

[dr. d]

in that case...

winning the car at auction is one thing. paying the appropriate taxes might be another set of expenses. better ask first before leaping in..
also, ask honda phils if they are willing to honor any warranty and to service such cars..
although, in our country, non-casa maintenance and servicing is not such a bad thing..

[boy astig]

The seller said it came in a container along with the sacks of rice. It was declared a second hand unit but then they discovered it wasn't. So now they auctioned the car and apparently the papers are now "clean". I'll ask him about the tax thing since I don't want to cover it :D

I overlooked this part. Who auctioned the vehicle, the seller?

In the case of undeclared AND seized items, only the BOC has the authority to auction such. In the case of motor vehicles, when you win in a BOC auction, bayad na pati duties and taxes mo. And you are given all the corresponding documents to prove such. Hence malinis/clean ang papers mo. It now becomes your responsibility to register the vehicle.

Going back to the first line in this post, if the seller did the auction, 2000% sure na bogus lahat ng papers nyan. Want to prove him wrong? Ask for a copy of the CP (Certificate of Payment) and have it verified sa LTO Diliman. Dyan palang, talo na si seller

[_Cathy_]

Hi,

May nag-offer kase sa kin ng Honda Civic na brand new,sobrang baba ng price.

If it's too good to be true, then it probably is.

[NightRock]

Parang mahirap yan if that is real hindi na nila hahayan mapunta pa sa iba yan sila na mismo ang bibili nyan or relatives nila. Ingat nalang wag masyado masilaw sa mga too good to be true na deal

[boy astig]

TO THE TS:

THAT IS A SCAM !!!!

Loose cargo means any commodity consigned to a single entity that does not take up the whole space of a container. This may come in as a single shipment (eg. one 20' container containing 1 motor vehicle strapped up inside) or as a consolidated cargo (eg balikbayan boxes with different owners).

The Honda Civic you mentioned is not a loose cargo but an UNDECLARED COMMODITY. Smuggled, simply stated. Complete and malinis ang papers? Complete and malinis na TALAHIB yan bro. "..It was declared as a second hand unit..."? Mahirap paniwalaan yan... Yng bigas nga walang nirerelease na import permit, tapos nasingitan pa ng kotse? Too good to be true. Forget the whole thing. You're just wasting your time on this.

Let me guess, galing mindanao yan ano? Importation from China?

[Yuki13]

TS magkano ba?

[cast_no_shadow]

Hi,

May nag-offer kase sa kin ng Honda Civic na brand new,sobrang baba ng price. The catch: its a loose cargo. Sabi nung kausap ko complete at malinis raw ung papers non at sila na bahala sa LTO registration.

Inaalala ko ung tax, ako pa rin ba magbabayad non? Pwede ko rin ba yon ibenta kung sakali? Hindi na ba yon considered as smuggled or hot cars?

Pasensya na madaming tanong, bago ko kase bitawan ung pera kelangan sureball muna

Salamat!

Gaano kababa ang sobrang baba na price?

"Sabi nung kausap ko complete at malinis raw ung papers non at sila na bahala sa LTO registration" - dito ako diskumpyado

[Egan101]

Better be safe than sorry. There a bunch of scalawags masquerading as government employees.

[victorevolution]

if it's too good to be true, BACK OUT.

[jodski]

The amount that you will save will not be enough if ever magka problem ka dyan

[yebo]

in the first place you will be dealing with a criminal. do you think you can beat him in his own game? are his words worth the trust you will put on him?

naaaah!

[ronw123w124]

Mahirap nga yan, I was able to buy an imported MB that came from Japan via Subic, it was sold to me dirt cheap kasi may problema sa papeles as disclosed by the owner, although di na kumpleto yung sasakyan mura pa rin, got it for 25k, wala naman problema sa akin as my only intention was to use it as a parts car. After I stripped off all the useable parts, the chassis was sold for 3.5k as junk.

[joey_ed27]

Check with a licensed customs broker if you really intend to legally participate in a customs auction.

From your post the reason why its "sobrang baba" is that its a negotiated price "under the table". Your payment goes directly to the pockets of these individuals. Buying from them is the easy part. Athought you mentioned that they will handle LTO registration. You do understand that you will be at their mercy everytime for "additional expenses".

[SiRbossR]

magkano ba TS? at anong model ng Civic? Please elaborate. kung 150k sayo bebenta tapos 2014 model eh, sige patusin mo na.

[leodawesome]

The catch: its a loose cargo. Sabi nung kausap ko complete at malinis raw ung papers non at sila na bahala sa LTO registration.

Lahat naman ng manloloko yan sasabihin eh. Kesyo malinis at sila na bahala. Kapag nahawakan na pera mo iiwan kana sa ere. Please specify the model and how much would it cost. Baka ako bumili :hysterical:

Kung ako seller, sa kakilala o sa kamag anak ko bebenta yan if that's too good of a deal. Legit that is.

[Ryan Bayona]

Ang kausap ko po is taga-customs mismo. I am doing some verifications too. I asked them to send their IDs.

It's a Honda Civic 2013 1.8S MT * 350k.

[cast_no_shadow]

Ang kausap ko po is taga-customs mismo. I am doing some verifications too. I asked them to send their IDs.

It's a Honda Civic 2013 1.8S MT * 350k.

Ang mga kolokoy sa customs may ID, in case you missed it some are officially employed.

Lets say totoo nga yan, how come hindi bidding? Dapat for bidding mga ganyan.


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