Buying a car worth around 1M

[chicosci]

Hi all,

I am planning to buy a car to be used as a daily ride. It will be a replacement for my 2008 altis 1.6v. Here are my top considerations.

1.) Nissan Sylphy 1.8 upper
2.) Honda Jazz VX+ CVT
3.) All new Honda Civic 1.8E. (This is kind of a budget stretch)

My decision points are the following

1.) FC (QC to Makati via edsa rush hour)
2.) Ride quality
3.) PMS Cost (CASA)
4.) ICE

Thank you.


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[cast_no_shadow]

Instead of getting the VX+ get a compact car na, pricey na masyado VX+. How about the VX only?

11th Gen Altis not considered?


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[chicosci]

Instead of getting the VX+ get a compact car na, pricey na masyado VX+. How about the VX only?

11th Gen Altis not considered?


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Yeah. Will also consider the VX model. Looks like side and curtain airbags ang plus nya vs the VX. Hmmm not considering the altis because ever since toyota kami. For a change naman gusto ng ibang brand. Plus medyo hindi ako happy sa contents ng altis kahit yung sa 2.0v pa eh. Medyo iwan sa tech compared sa competitors.

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[jettp0gi]

Ford focus sir?

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[chicosci]

Ford focus sir?

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I considered din yun kaso i want the top of the line variant kaya out of budget na hehe

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[glenn manikis]

Ford focus sir?

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1.088 Lang 1.5 ecoboost na...
I also like the focus.. Kaso mga Lang puro ford na sasakyan ko...

[chicosci]

1.088 Lang 1.5 ecoboost na...
I also like the focus.. Kaso mga Lang puro ford na sasakyan ko...

Well true ok talaga engine ni focus. Kaso mga sir would you know ano consumption ng focus sa edsa traffic? Thanks

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[cast_no_shadow]

Stretch mo na bro, get the turbo civic [emoji16]


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[viper888]

Im pretty sure there are discounts for the focus. You should also add the Mazda 3 1.5 to your choices.


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[minicarph]

i'll never buy a sedan or low ground clearance car for 1M. it's not worth imho. the only thing worth for to buy na low ground clearance is the T86. I miss that car.

[chicosci]

Im pretty sure there are discounts for the focus. You should also add the Mazda 3 1.5 to your choices.


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Actually i considered this too. Kaso parang bitin yung 1.5L na non turbo pero will test drive din. Baka ok naman. Kasi ako sa 1.6 altis ko ngayon medyo feel ko talagang underpowered specially pag may sakay na eh.

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[jettp0gi]

Actually i considered this too. Kaso parang bitin yung 1.5L na non turbo pero will test drive din. Baka ok naman. Kasi ako sa 1.6 altis ko ngayon medyo feel ko talagang underpowered specially pag may sakay na eh.

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Ok yan sir. Im pretty sure hindi bitin mga 1.5 ngayon in general. Unless of course, your definition of "bitin" is the same as a drag racer's. In which case, you should get a V6/V8 hehe.

Altis 1.6 on the other hand, is indeed heavy sabi ng iba. I like how the altis looks though. Sleek.

Well true ok talaga engine ni focus. Kaso mga sir would you know ano consumption ng focus sa edsa traffic? Thanks

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Try mo mag-browse/post sa "ford cars talk" section sir, baka meron dun.

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[viper888]

Actually i considered this too. Kaso parang bitin yung 1.5L na non turbo pero will test drive din. Baka ok naman. Kasi ako sa 1.6 altis ko ngayon medyo feel ko talagang underpowered specially pag may sakay na eh.

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The 1.5 is enough and has the same ICE as the 2.0. The ecoboost is claimed to have poor fuel consumption according to reviews, but its the fastest.


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[chicosci]

The 1.5 is enough and has the same ICE as the 2.0. The ecoboost is claimed to have poor fuel consumption according to reviews, but its the fastest.


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Ahhh yeah. Actually ok tlga si 1.5 in terms of ice naman. Hmmm need to test drive talaga.

Regarding sa focus. Yeah, from what i read medyo malaki padin siya sa gas lalo na pag traffic.

My current altis averages around 6-6.5km/ltr. Kaya was look for a more efficient car sana for rush hour traffic.

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[chicosci]

Ok yan sir. Im pretty sure hindi bitin mga 1.5 ngayon in general. Unless of course, your definition of "bitin" is the same as a drag racer's. In which case, you should get a V6/V8 hehe.

Altis 1.6 on the other hand, is indeed heavy sabi ng iba. I like how the altis looks though. Sleek.

Try mo mag-browse/post sa "ford cars talk" section sir, baka meron dun.

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Yeah. Mas ok na ata mga config ng transmission ngayn. Kasi my 1.6 altis talaga medyo mabigat ang feeling nya.

Tska medyo concerned lang ako sa fc ni 1.5 kasi baka.since medyo bigat ang kaha..malakas sa gas hehe

The 1.5 is enough and has the same ICE as the 2.0. The ecoboost is claimed to have poor fuel consumption according to reviews, but its the fastest.


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[jettp0gi]

Yeah. Mas ok na ata mga config ng transmission ngayn. Kasi my 1.6 altis talaga medyo mabigat ang feeling nya.

Tska medyo concerned lang ako sa fc ni 1.5 kasi baka.since medyo bigat ang kaha..malakas sa gas hehe



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My city reads 8-9 km/L for 800+ km of FVR-C5 rush hour traffic. Lower nung bago-bago pa (6-7 lang ata dati). Highly probable na same lang yan sa jazz. Not sure though sa mazda. Good enough sir? [emoji1]

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[jut703]

The 1.5V Mazda 3 feels roughly as powerful as the 1.6 Altis CVT. The Altis just has more torque at the lower end of the rev range, while you have to rev the Mazda a bit harder to get some decent grunt.

Compared to your Altis, which only has 109 hp and an ancient 4AT, the current Altis has a Dual VVTi engine with 122 hp and a CVT that's a really good match especially for city driving.

I haven't driven the new Civic with the 1.8 and CVT, but the old one with the same 1.8 paired with a 5AT gave good performance, but like the Mazda, needed to be revved. So in normal city driving where you don't usually exceed 3000 rpm, the Altis feels livelier.

FC of the Mazda 3, Altis, and City are all roughly the same for city driving. Not sure with the Mazda but the Altis and City can reach 20 km/L on the highway if driven sedately at a constant 80-90 kph.

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[Janemar]

Dry type Dual clutch pa ba ung new focus tranny? If yes, stay away with it lalo na pag stop and go trapik mo gagamitin madalas. Just go with conventional torcon type AT or CVT.

[Egan101]

Dry type Dual clutch pa ba ung new focus tranny? If yes, stay away with it lalo na pag stop and go trapik mo gagamitin madalas. Just go with conventional torcon type AT or CVT.

The Focus 1.5L Ecoboost uses a traditional 6-speed AT, similar to what the Escape Ecoboost is using. The torque output of 240Nm is more than the 200Nm limit of Ford's dry-type DCT.

A friend and fellow carnut just got himself a Focus Ecoboost, the base model for just over 1M. He feels all the other features (active city stop, automated parking, etc.) is not worth it for 200k more and may be a problem to maintain later on.

It is very quick for a compact car, around 8 seconds for a 0-100kmh sprint, though most reviews say it is a second slower than the new Civic 1.5L turbo. The power output of 180hp is easily attainable as Ford's Ecoboost engines can rev easily to redline. City driving FC is around 6 km/L. Reviews in the US state that the Civic 1.5L Turbo offers better fuel consumption as the Focus weighs 100kg more than the Civic 1.5L Turbo.

If you like a quick car with very good driving dynamics for 1M, the Focus 1.5L Ecoboost is your best bet. Talk about midsize car power/torque output in a compact platform. The Civic Turbo is also nice but it costs 300k more.

If you prefer a comfort-oriented compact sedan for 1M, it's a choice between the Nissan Sylphy 1.8V or Toyota Altis 1.6V. These two cars offer the biggest interiors.

[niky]

The Focus 1.5L Ecoboost uses a traditional 6-speed AT, similar to what the Escape Ecoboost is using. The torque output of 240Nm is more than the 200Nm limit of Ford's dry-type DCT.

A friend and fellow carnut just got himself a Focus Ecoboost, the base model for just over 1M. He feels all the other features (active city stop, automated parking, etc.) is not worth it for 200k more and may be a problem to maintain later on.

It is very quick for a compact car, around 8 seconds for a 0-100kmh sprint, though most reviews say it is a second slower than the new Civic 1.5L turbo. The power output of 180hp is easily attainable as Ford's Ecoboost engines can rev easily to redline. City driving FC is around 6 km/L. Reviews in the US state that the Civic 1.5L Turbo offers better fuel consumption as the Focus weighs 100kg more than the Civic 1.5L Turbo.

If you like a quick car with very good driving dynamics for 1M, the Focus 1.5L Ecoboost is your best bet. Talk about midsize car power/torque output in a compact platform. The Civic Turbo is also nice but it costs 300k more.

If you prefer a comfort-oriented compact sedan for 1M, it's a choice between the Nissan Sylphy 1.8V or Toyota Altis 1.6V. These two cars offer the biggest interiors.

You can always reflash or chip for more power when those come out for the 1.5.

It's still a wait-and-see for me, but I actually would trust the 6AT much more than the previous dual clutch transmission.