BRZ/86 PMS Cost vs. WRX PMS cost

**Kath_Tzikot** · February 16th, 2020 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by Egan101

Before buying, make sure to test drive the car. Coming from an Altis, the ride will be a lot stiffer. It will not be comfortable for passengers. The WRX STi will be a bone jarring experience for rear seat passengers.

If buying the WRX or WRX STi, rev the car past 2500 rpm (up to 5500 rpm), torque peaks at this rpm range. You should feel the car pulling hard while pushing you down in your seat as the turbo spools to provide more boost. Driving it below turbo spool rpm range will just feel like driving the usual 2.0L-2.5L NA engine. These cars love to be revved hard.

I want a WRX too but as a family man, there are more needs than just the thrill of a sporty compact. I am happy with my Forester XT - quick, fast, comfortable ride, plus big cargo space.

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matagal pa naman bago maging family man sir so enjoy muna. hehe. thank you po!

**justin_** · February 16th, 2020 06:12 PM

Since you already have a practical Altis, why not go for the BRZ/86? You've mentioned that this will be a weekend car and that you're still not a family man, so you don't really have to think of the need for a 5-seater. I say enjoy the freedom to have a two-door while you still can.

Unless your heart yearns for the WRX/STI, that is.

I own neither BRZ/86 nor WRX for now, but I plan on getting a Miata in a couple years' time in addition to my current FC Civic, so I'm "kinda" seeing myself in your shoes too.

**Kath_Tzikot** · February 16th, 2020 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by justin_

Since you already have a practical Altis, why not go for the BRZ/86? You've mentioned that this will be a weekend car and that you're still not a family man, so you don't really have to think of the need for a 5-seater. I say enjoy the freedom to have a two-door while you still can.

Unless your heart yearns for the WRX/STI, that is.

I own neither BRZ/86 nor WRX for now, but I plan on getting a Miata in a couple years' time in addition to my current FC Civic, so I'm "kinda" seeing myself in your shoes too.

kaya nililista ko din talaga advantages ng isa't isa para wala din akong pagsisihan pag my nakita na akong unit.

**Egan101** · February 16th, 2020 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by Kath_Tzikot

kaya nililista ko din talaga advantages ng isa't isa para wala din akong pagsisihan pag my nakita na akong unit.

If you really want to have something with two doors, then go with the BRZ. There are only a few cars locally available with a 2-door, front engine, rear wheel drive setup. It is light and nimble but still not as quick/fast as the WRX or WRX STi - an intelligent AWD system with a turbo engine has its own advantages.

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**Kath_Tzikot** · February 16th, 2020 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by Egan101

If you really want to have something with two doors, then go with the BRZ. There are only a few cars locally available with a 2-door, front engine, rear wheel drive setup. It is light and nimble but still not as quick/fast as the WRX or WRX STi - an intelligent AWD system with a turbo engine has its own advantages.

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with 86 and brz paps, what will be your choice?

**Egan101** · February 16th, 2020 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by Kath_Tzikot

with 86 and brz paps, what will be your choice?

The BRZ has a stiffer suspension setup than the 86 thus it handles better on the track. However, the coupe brings the bling but not much of the speed.

I would suggest though the WRX as it can be a daily driver. The WRX STi is too stiff to be driven daily.

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**travajante** · February 16th, 2020 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by Kath_Tzikot

kaya nililista ko din talaga advantages ng isa't isa para wala din akong pagsisihan pag my nakita na akong unit.

BRZ pluses: Simple NA/RWD. Aside from M/Ts, it's the lone Sub left w/ a non-CVT. Better longterm reliability & keeper potential.

I'd go BRZ over WRX if you won't need the space....but, like justin_'s....an MX5 ND2 over the BRZ.

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**Egan101** · February 17th, 2020 12:26 AM

Originally Posted by travajante

BRZ pluses: Simple NA/RWD. Aside from M/Ts, it's the lone Sub left w/ a non-CVT. Better longterm reliability & keeper potential.

I'd go BRZ over WRX if you won't need the space....but, like justin_'s....an MX5 ND2 over the BRZ.

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TS is looking at MT variants. The BRZ, WRX, and WRX STi are the only Subie vehicles available with an MT tranny.

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**travajante** · February 17th, 2020 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by Egan101

TS is looking at MT variants. The BRZ, WRX, and WRX STi are the only Subie vehicles available with an MT tranny.

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Hence the mention of 'aside fr MTs', bai.

...in case he might switch.
The coming G80 M3 & G82 M4 are ditching the DCTs & going back to torque converter A/Ts for durability. The good news is these updated nonCVT A/Ts have now caught up & wiped out the DCT weight & shift time advantage.

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**Egan101** · February 17th, 2020 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by travajante

Hence the mention of 'aside fr MTs', bai.

...in case he might switch.
The coming G80 M3 & G82 M4 are ditching the DCTs & going back to torque converter A/Ts for durability. The good news is these updated nonCVT A/Ts have now caught up & wiped out the DCT weight & shift time advantage.

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Even the new M5 comes with an 8-speed AT instead of the usual 7-speed DCT.

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