best 2nd hand midsized or large SUV to buy?

[oldblue]

if I have 1M, bili ako 2nd hand fieldmaster 4x2 2000 up pero invest ako sa pagpapalit ng security system particularly door locks.

may nagsabi dito baba na daw benta ng 2000-2003 Pajero FM 1M or less coz everybody is in the Fortuner phenomenon hehehe

[jacorb_88]

if I have 1M, bili ako 2nd hand fieldmaster 4x2 2000 up pero invest ako sa pagpapalit ng security system particularly door locks.

may nagsabi dito baba na daw benta ng 2000-2003 Pajero FM 1M or less coz everybody is in the Fortuner phenomenon hehehe

Friend of mine engages in buy-and-sell... he said pajero/trooper went as low as 80k less during the launch of fortuner when a lot went selling their pajero's and trooper's to acquire fortuner. after actual experiences of fortuner and wallowy ride is realized, price of pajero's /trooper's went back 80k more =)...

[BlueBimmer]

hahahaha

[kimpOy]

imho pinaka the best pa rin (among the ladder frame SUV) ang ride ng Trooper..

[pajerokid]

ganda nga ride ng trup. aliw yung skyroof. lakas pa nung hatak. drove my friend's the other day. kaya lang mas pogi pa rin ang Paj! HMP! :lol:

[5Speed]

if its for your daily drive, you wont go wrong with a Gen 2.5 Paj....very reliable, mas mura ang mga pyesa kesa sa Land Cruiser 90 or 100 series or probably with even a trooper, mas abundant din ang parts nito okay pa rin naman ang porma...not so big of an SUV so madali syang i-drive at isingit o i-park...

if its your second car/coding car, an LC will be nice.... very durable and I really like its stance...tsaka parang di naluluma yung design nya....pang porma na rin...hehehehe

if its your weekend warrior/offroad vehicle....Patrol Safari is very good...in stock form with just a minor lift and it will go anywhere where the others probably dont even dare to thread.....

Yaw ko ng Expe....dapat me gasolinahan muna akong sarili bago ko siguro pag-isipang bilin yan...hehehehehe tsaka ang mahal ng pyesa nyan.....

Trups are also very nice...but have some scary problem with the injectors....see the related thread on this....

[oldblue]

if its for your daily drive, you wont go wrong with a Gen 2.5 Paj....very reliable, mas mura ang mga pyesa kesa sa Land Cruiser 90 or 100 series or probably with even a trooper, mas abundant din ang parts nito okay pa rin naman ang porma...not so big of an SUV so madali syang i-drive at isingit o i-park...

if its your second car/coding car, an LC will be nice.... very durable and I really like its stance...tsaka parang di naluluma yung design nya....pang porma na rin...hehehehe

if its your weekend warrior/offroad vehicle....Patrol Safari is very good...in stock form with just a minor lift and it will go anywhere where the others probably dont even dare to thread.....

Yaw ko ng Expe....dapat me gasolinahan muna akong sarili bago ko siguro pag-isipang bilin yan...hehehehehe tsaka ang mahal ng pyesa nyan.....

Trups are also very nice...but have some scary problem with the injectors....see the related thread on this....

pajero ka na lang cheapest to maintain, cheaper to buy. yun naman underpowered eh nasa gumagamit. puro naman traffic dito.

[Wouie]

LC80, tibay ng makina at body, kaya lang medyo mahal pa rin. lakas ng makina para sa diesel at di masyadong maingay pag nasa loob ka. kahit converted okey din basta okey ang conversion.

[maop99]

guys here's my take...and mga nakuha ko sa inyo...please feel free to debate or refute...but mukang gusto ko is 2000 up na model....

LC and LC prado- okay na okay pero hirap maghanap...mahal pa ata ang 2000 model

Paj- okay din kaso underpowered...easy and cheap to maintain...maporma

XP- okay ang porma, mura resale, mura din bilhin...gastos sa gas...gastos i-maintain...to scalpel, bro, honestly how is your gas consumption? 4x2 ba yung binebenta mo?

Trooper- okay din kaso may problem with injectors...is this really a problem with all troopers? maganda sana siya kaso I crossed it off my list kasi nga because of this problem....

Lalo ata akong naguluhan! hehehe
Patrol-parang last choice ko ata ito...too big and still too expensive

[aceshark]

Trooper- okay din kaso may problem with injectors...is this really a problem with all troopers? maganda sana siya kaso I crossed it off my list kasi nga because of this problem....

mukhang problem nga ng trups to. yung classmate ko bumili last year 2000 model. after 5 mos na gamit nya, palit agad yung injectors. 50k petot agad. ouch!

[Poops]

Maiba ng tanong..are open to other options? I'm no expert sa SUV's pero I would consider the new Toyota Hilux 4x2 (SUV rin ang dating, hitech engine), less than 800k. You have extra for a nice setup.

[Hero]

but that hilux variant is barebones ni power window ata wala..tapos mababa pang delivery talaga..

[orly_andico]

but that hilux variant is barebones ni power window ata wala..tapos mababa pang delivery talaga..

power nothing nga siya, parang innova J.
pero the tires.. kung palitan kaya ng bigger rims and tires, maayos kaya yung mababa niyang "delivery vehicle stance?"

pero kung ganun.. maybe an innova will do. after all ladder frame din naman siya, hindi lang talaga pangharabas yung suspension kasi hindi leaf spring sa likod. pero solid live axle na rin.. has more ground clearance than a CUV..

[davy88]

Question lang, may balak din kasi kami bumili expedition, san puede patingin para malaman kung may problema or sira bago bilhin? Sa casa ba puede antayin, or may alam kayo mahusay tumingin?

Thanks!

[nugundam93]

if you guys feel the pajero is underpowered...

dalhin niyo sa autoplus. according to jonathan there, who was tempting me to get the 18" forged TE-37s (which cost 140T for 4 rims), they got to increase the output ng 2.5L turbodiesel 4d56 by 33% with fuelling and boost increase. shempre uusok ng onti pero to be expected. and on stock engine parts pa yan ah. costs about 9K lahat, kasama dyno tuning.

now imagine that on the 4m40. :D

too bad lang nga i forgot to drop by autoplus when i had extra cash. kainis.

and +1 on the "pogi pa rin FM" comment ni pajerokid.

[scalpel]

Maop99, Mine is at 5 km/liter, no Kaos-- same consumption as my Starex.

Davy88, I'm selling my 2001 with 15t km only, full service record so you can check at the casa that there's no problem. flooring and radio still has plastic covering.

[maop99]

Ganyan din starex ko hehe kaya di ako masyadong concerned sa gas consumption, I don't know why mukhang lahat ng kotse ko parepareho ang consumption hehehe 5-6km/L kung ganyan ang XP mo pwede na hehe....4x2 ba expedition mo?

I think I may be down to my 2 choices, if I'm conservative I'll go for the Pajero 2001 4x2 but if I go extreme, Expedition pero 4x2 lang hehehe

[scalpel]

Would anyone know the consumption of their Gen 2 Pajero? I used to own one doing 6-7 km/l. I also found the ride a little bumpy ...

[v22]

Would anyone know the consumption of their Gen 2 Pajero? I used to own one doing 6-7 km/l. I also found the ride a little bumpy ...

same here, 6-7 city and 9-11 hi way.. except for the bumpy ride, mine's a jdm unit, comes with in cabin shocks adjust.. plush ride

[nugundam93]

7-ish km/L yan usually on city drive, assuming na 2.5L engine and not the ones with 2.8L.

our gen2.5 with 2.8L engine runs about 6-ish km/L city drive.