Planning to buy a sedan or SUV

[crosswind]

Good Morning,

We are planning to buy a sedan or SUV. We need a Comfortable, fuel efficient and spacious car for everyday.
I'm eyeing the Nissan Sylphy,Toyota Altis , Isuzu Mu-x.
I already crossed out the mazda 3 since the review says it has a cramped 2nd row seats
Budget is aroung 900k- 1.4 million
Thanks tsikot

[jcal68]

Whenever budget permits, I would always go for a diesel powered CUV or SUV.
I believe these are better suited for local road conditions.
The montero fits all your requirements.
And based on the number of montero owners on the road, I know many share my sentiment.

[crosswind]

Whenever budget permits, I would always go for a diesel powered CUV or SUV.
I believe these are better suited for local road conditions.
The montero fits all your requirements.
And based on the number of montero owners on the road, I know many share my sentiment.

Thanks! the montero is a bargain and value for money, but there are too many monteros out there and I heard the new Montero is just out of the corner

[Egan101]

There might still be some units left of the Kia Sorento LX FWD CRDi (5-seater) in some dealers. It is priced at around 1.3M before. It offers ample interior space and a potent 2.2L CRDi engine (same as the Santa Fe). If you prefer ladder-frame SUVs, the 4x2 models of the MS/MU-X/Fort/TB/Everest are all within your budget. If you prefer a petrol-powered CUV that can seat 5 adults and 2 kids, the new Nissan Xtrail 4x2 is priced around 1.3M.

If you really want a comfortable ride for 1.4M, then go midsize with a Kia Optima. It may not be that fuel efficient but no compact or CUV or ladder-frame SUV will beat the ride and comfort of a midsize car.

[crosswind]

There might still be some units left of the Kia Sorento LX FWD CRDi (5-seater) in some dealers. It is priced at around 1.3M before. It offers ample interior space and a potent 2.2L CRDi engine (same as the Santa Fe). If you prefer ladder-frame SUVs, the 4x2 models of the MS/MU-X/Fort/TB/Everest are all within your budget. If you prefer a petrol-powered CUV that can seat 5 adults and 2 kids, the new Nissan Xtrail 4x2 is priced around 1.3M.

If you really want a comfortable ride for 1.4M, then go midsize with a Kia Optima. It may not be that fuel efficient but no compact or CUV or ladder-frame SUV will beat the ride and comfort of a midsize car.

Thanks for the suggestion sir egan!
I will check out those cars you mentioned.

[jut703]

How many will you be usually carrying?

The Altis is spacious enough for 5, and it's definitely comfortable and fuel efficient. At 1M for the V variant, it fits your budget perfectly without having to stretch it. I generally believe that you should go for the cheapest car that fits your needs and wants.

Even if a Fortuner/Montero is more fuel efficient (it isn't - they both just get 8-9 km/L in city driving, but diesel is cheaper), it still costs several hundred thousand more than the Altis. Unless you need the ruggedness of a ladder-frame SUV, then it's not worth it. A Montero/Fort is definitely a better all-rounder, but since you already have several SUVs, a sedan will be more comfortable extra ride.

[Red Advent 04]

kung may sapat ka naman na budget, better to buy toyota fortuner o trailblazer/duramax ng chevrolet. magaganda klase suv yan.

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kung may sapat ka naman na budget, better to buy toyota fortuner o trailblazer/duramax ng chevrolet. magaganda klase suv yan.

[crosswind]

How many will you be usually carrying?

The Altis is spacious enough for 5, and it's definitely comfortable and fuel efficient. At 1M for the V variant, it fits your budget perfectly without having to stretch it. I generally believe that you should go for the cheapest car that fits your needs and wants.

Even if a Fortuner/Montero is more fuel efficient (it isn't - they both just get 8-9 km/L in city driving, but diesel is cheaper), it still costs several hundred thousand more than the Altis. Unless you need the ruggedness of a ladder-frame SUV, then it's not worth it. A Montero/Fort is definitely a better all-rounder, but since you already have several SUVs, a sedan will be more comfortable extra ride.

Thanks bro jut!
Around 4 on weekends and it will be driver driven on weekdays.
What is the FC of your altis, does it come with a touchscreen HU?
For the Altis I think the 1.6 g m/t is worth it already * 879k pesos

[macsd]

We are on the same boat but my choice is left between M3 2.0R & HRV EL. Told my SAs, kung sino ang mauna makapagprovide, i'll grab it.

[crosswind]

kung may sapat ka naman na budget, better to buy toyota fortuner o trailblazer/duramax ng chevrolet. magaganda klase suv yan.

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kung may sapat ka naman na budget, better to buy toyota fortuner o trailblazer/duramax ng chevrolet. magaganda klase suv yan.

Thanks I will keep that in mind =)

[crosswind]

We are on the same boat but my choice is left between M3 2.0R & HRV EL. Told my SAs, kung sino ang mauna makapagprovide, i'll grab it.

That's nice bro
The mazda 3 is the most sporty and has the best handling in the compact sedan market these days! have you seen the 2nd row is it really cramped?
Can you tell what is Yojin 3 about meaning ba free maintenace for 3yrs or 60k kms?
The Hr-v is nice too but it is basically a raised jazz

[jut703]

Thanks bro jut!
Around 4 on weekends and it will be driver driven on weekdays.
What is the FC of your altis, does it come with a touchscreen HU?
For the Altis I think the 1.6 g m/t is worth it already * 879k pesos

My last 3 city drive fillups clocked in 9.80, 8.33, and 8.47 km/L. That's mostly short trips in rush hour traffic. I also have 18" rims so my FC should be worse than a stock Altis with only 16s.

No touch screen HU. If you'll get a touch screen HU, I'd recommend Growl Audio. Much easier to use than the crappy OEM touch screen HUs of Mitsu and Toyota.

They also had a price increase so SRP is now at 883k for the MT. Discounts are still around 30k so you can still get the car for 850k.

Of course, it's nowhere as flood-proof or pothole-proof as a Fortuner, but it's also much much cheaper. Weigh your needs and first establish if you need an SUV or not

[JohnM]

Can you tell what is Yojin 3 about meaning ba free maintenace for 3yrs or 60k kms?

Yep free PMS after 1 month then 5 months then every 6 months thereafter. In mileage it's after 1k kms then every 10k thereafter. They're pretty strict with the schedule. If lumagpas ang mileage or date mo bayad ka na. On my second PMS nasa 6k pa lang mileage ko but I still had to bring it in.

[crosswind]

My last 3 city drive fillups clocked in 9.80, 8.33, and 8.47 km/L. That's mostly short trips in rush hour traffic. I also have 18" rims so my FC should be worse than a stock Altis with only 16s.

No touch screen HU. If you'll get a touch screen HU, I'd recommend Growl Audio. Much easier to use than the crappy OEM touch screen HUs of Mitsu and Toyota.

They also had a price increase so SRP is now at 883k for the MT. Discounts are still around 30k so you can still get the car for 850k.

Of course, it's nowhere as flood-proof or pothole-proof as a Fortuner, but it's also much much cheaper. Weigh your needs and first establish if you need an SUV or not

9km/l is good pero is there any chance it will reach 12km/l on city driving like on our daily innova?

[crosswind]

Yep free PMS after 1 month then 5 months then every 6 months thereafter. In mileage it's after 1k kms then every 10k thereafter. They're pretty strict with the schedule. If lumagpas ang mileage or date mo bayad ka na. On my second PMS nasa 6k pa lang mileage ko but I still had to bring it in.

Thanks for explaining.
Sobrang strict pala dapat pala bago mag 1k kms so around 995kms deretcho ka na sa casa hehe

[JohnM]

Thanks for explaining.
Sobrang strict pala dapat pala bago mag 1k kms so around 995kms deretcho ka na sa casa hehe

Yep. Can't complain cause it's free. Libre pa juice, coffee and wifi while waiting.

[makelovenotwar]

Hi Sir crosswind.
Yung Mu-X, fuel efficient talaga.
Na-compare ko yung FC ng Altis at Mu-X. Full tank to full tank method. Same route, same time range, parehong ako ang driver. At hindi isang beses lang. Parehong brand-new nung simula ko gamitin.
Yung Altis 1.6 AT, 11-12km/L of gasoline.
Yung Mu-X 2.5 4x2 AT, 12-13km/L of diesel.

Spacious at maka-tao ang 3rd row seats ng Mu-X, at least for a 5'5" person like me. Mababa ang flooring so hindi ipit ang tyan or mataas ang tuhod. Kaya ko umupo nang magkadikit ang tuhod at hindi tatama yung tuhod ko sa sandalan ng 2nd row seats.

Hindi ko lang sure kung kayang makipag-compete ng SUV sa sedan in terms of comfort.

BTW,
Ito yung standard PMS prices na nilabas ni Isuzu for Mu-X 4x2 AT model.
every 5k kms = 4,772
every 10k kms = 7,905
every 20k kms = 17,489
(Naisip ko lang ito sabihin kasi dito sa category na ito ako sumablay sa pagpili ko ng Mu-X.)

Sana makatulong sir.

[garfield_08]

Im usually a passenger of an Altis (kapag kasama ko supervisor ko). Ride comfort is good, pero AC is weak if you're riding at the back. or maybe its just me

[crosswind]

Hi Sir crosswind.
Yung Mu-X, fuel efficient talaga.
Na-compare ko yung FC ng Altis at Mu-X. Full tank to full tank method. Same route, same time range, parehong ako ang driver. At hindi isang beses lang. Parehong brand-new nung simula ko gamitin.
Yung Altis 1.6 AT, 11-12km/L of gasoline.
Yung Mu-X 2.5 4x2 AT, 12-13km/L of diesel.

Spacious at maka-tao ang 3rd row seats ng Mu-X, at least for a 5'5" person like me. Mababa ang flooring so hindi ipit ang tyan or mataas ang tuhod. Kaya ko umupo nang magkadikit ang tuhod at hindi tatama yung tuhod ko sa sandalan ng 2nd row seats.

Hindi ko lang sure kung kayang makipag-compete ng SUV sa sedan in terms of comfort.

BTW,
Ito yung standard PMS prices na nilabas ni Isuzu for Mu-X 4x2 AT model.
every 5k kms = 4,772
every 10k kms = 7,905
every 20k kms = 17,489
(Naisip ko lang ito sabihin kasi dito sa category na ito ako sumablay sa pagpili ko ng Mu-X.)

Sana makatulong sir.

Thank you for the detailed review of both cars FC consumptions

[crosswind]

Im usually a passenger of an Altis (kapag kasama ko supervisor ko). Ride comfort is good, pero AC is weak if you're riding at the back. or maybe its just me

Siguro nga sir may nababasa ako sa altis thread eh mainit na daw kaagad aircon