'96 lancer EL mt vs '96 civic vti at

[theshepherd]

My take on 2nd hand cars. Saan ka makakahingi ng tulong at san ka magpapagawa kasi sooner or later something will break down. Kaya when I bought my first car which was a 2nd hand, alam ko na san dadalin at ipapagawa. Kasi naghanap muna ako ng trusted shops/mechanics before I bought it. I joined car clubs, registered in their forums, and did my homework. Para sulit talaga. It's not just about the car, but also the maintenance once its yours. Goodluck sir.

Peace out!

[basti08]

My take on 2nd hand cars. Saan ka makakahingi ng tulong at san ka magpapagawa kasi sooner or later something will break down. Kaya when I bought my first car which was a 2nd hand, alam ko na san dadalin at ipapagawa. Kasi naghanap muna ako ng trusted shops/mechanics before I bought it. I joined car clubs, registered in their forums, and did my homework. Para sulit talaga. It's not just about the car, but also the maintenance once its yours. Goodluck sir.

Peace out!

I agree.

Car clubs are big help to owners. On what to look out for in your particular unit, where to find budget quality parts and also in understanding your car's needs better (preferred oil during PMS, the better spark plugs, the better replacement parts brand etc, the do's and don'ts etc.).

[theshepherd]

Get the lancer IMO. Mas importante body condition kesa engine. Register at lancer clubs. Dami mga pyesa dun. Pati engine assembly. At mga recommendations on how to enhance your lancer. Yung civic ipapa body repair mo pa. Kasi sabi mo may mga dents, etc. Mahirap maghanap ng body repair shops na walang backjob kesa engine repair shops.
Regarding sa parts di naman nagkakalayo ang prices.
Change the wheels 14'-15' size para di masyado mabigat ang steering. Ok lang manual steering at manual tranny. Lalaki naman tayo parang nag-gym kana rin. Pampalaki ng braso at exercise lang yun.
Still, it's your call sir.

Peace out!

[siopaonatoasted]

Yan rin ang natutunan ko sa buy and sell ko na kaibigan, mas maigi tingnan na maganda katawan compared engine, madali lang mag pa repair at palit ng engine, mura lang overhaul. Pero sa body, mahirap, mahal ang repainting at yung paglata, mahirap rin ibalik yung original look/condition.

[[archie]]

Baliktad naman ako sa oto, mas ok sakin magandang makina kesa body.

Mahirap naman sakin yung tipong Laman ng talyer kesa pa-strip to metal. Makakauwi kasi ako ng panget Pintura pero kung overheat makina, kailangan ko pa-tow truck. I guess kanya kanya yan. Hehe

[7138]

Para sakin din, mas okei na yung may onting tama yung body kesa may tama ang makina,
Mas madali solusyonan body kesa engine.

*TS
less power amenities == less headache

[siopaonatoasted]

Yung stand point kasi paps, mas mura in the end kung i-repair ang makina at yung laman ng engine bay compared sa pag restore ng kaha.

Marmai kasi nabibili na chop chop parts and orig pa na pang replace ng worn out parts, and of course kung chop chop yan, alam natin na almost nalalapit sa brand new oem ang performance nyan.

[dr. d]

is that EL the hotdog or the pizza? they put PS in the hotdog EL, and called it EX. not too many examples, 'though. but once you taste PS, you won't want to go back to PaS (Pawis Steering).
45K mileage in a 1996 car? unbelievable. also, unlikely. baka yung speedometer lang ang 45K.. maybe the rest of the car reads 145K...
for 200K, you can have better choices in the 2000s age bracket. get the younger ones...
(pssst... ask cathy if she's selling her gli.. it may be a better buy ..)
heh heh.

[siopaonatoasted]

is that EL the hotdog or the pizza? they put PS in the hotdog EL, and called it EX. not too many examples, 'though. but once you taste PS, you won't want to go back to PaS (Pawis Steering).
45K mileage in a 1996 car? unbelievable. also, unlikely. baka yung speedometer lang ang 45K.. maybe the rest of the car reads 145K...
for 200K, you can have better choices in the 2000s age bracket. get the younger ones...
(pssst... ask cathy if she's selling her gli.. it may be a better buy ..)
heh heh.

Paps, our Tamaraw FX 1997 model only has 65k in its odometer, kami first owner, and wala kami plano ibenta hehehe... Naniniwala ako na may mga sasakyan na gaya rin sa amin na kahit 16 years old na, mababa pa rin mileage pero bihira.

[Ponkan]

* TS baket bigla naging 100k price, tawaran mo un EL sabihin mo 80k then meet halfway kayo, kapag maganda katawan di ibig sabihin nun ok na din..mas stock lahat like paint, interior, wala added burloloy mas ok. kung wori ka sa makina bring along ng mechanic na mapagkakatiwalaan mo at marunong, un pagiging basic lahat ng EL plus dyan di ibig kulang sa gadgets di na ok, mas madali pagawa yan basta may masira at 45tkm may doubt din ako pero di imposible din talagang orig mileage nya yan gaya sabi nila kung first owner baka talaga naalagaan, test drive mo muna,wag magmamadali sa desisyon...kapag di kuntento may iba pa sasakyan sariwa sa paligid search ka lang

[7138]

We have a 98 model sedan with only 30+k kms on the clock, first owner din kami.
Possible din na orig mileage yung sa EL, pero syempre, pwedeng altered din, im just saying na possible low mileage orig talaga.

[siopaonatoasted]

Marami palatandaan ang isang low mileage na sasakyan, at kung maingat ang owner.

1. Timing belt - kung may timing belt lang naman, silipin mo ang timing belt nya, ask may-ari when last na palit etc. Kapag nagpalit na, hindi bababa sa 80k ang mileage nyan. Pero ako at around 62k, nagpalit na.
2. Mga drive belts, like fan belt, power seering and aircon belts, kung di na orig, di na yan bababa sa 30k mileage.
3. Yung mga pedals, kung meron nung mga nabibili na aftermarket pedal, try mo ipatangal at kung gastado, pinaatras ang odometer nyan sigurado kung ang nakalagay eh hindi 100k+ km.
4. Check mo yung hydrovac. Kung may traces ng brakefluid, pabaya may-ari nyan.
5. Check mo color ng radiator coolant sa reservoir, kung yung oem na kulay, medyo ma-alaga may-ari nyan, kung after market nagtipid na yan hehehe...
6. Kulay rin ng brake fluid, kung nangangalawang, napabayaan rin yan.
7. Check also steering mechanism kung may leak ng fluids.
8. Yung valve cover gasket, kung nabuksan na yun isa rin sa indicator na mataas na mileage na rin yan.

Madali lang magpa-atras ng odometer, calculator, eeprom programmer, hex editor at pc lang kailangan nyan.

Example:

Para sa Lancer 96 EL kung saan modification.

Para maging 40k km mileage, eto yung location ng i-modify sa eeprom.

The mileage is stored in the next lines:
0000: 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C
0010: 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C
0020: 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C
0030: 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C
0040: 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C
0050: 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C 0A 0C
All Shown bytes are mileage

Papalitan mo nito, may 40k km ka na hehehe...

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