2018 fortuner v or 2018 mux luxe

[LN106G]

Been driving for more than 20 years already and most of it was a car from 1999 that doesnt have a back up sensor nor a camera.... you feel like you won't need them until you get to try them yourself. Recently been driving one of the modern cars that have all the tech gadgets (sensors, camera, etc) and i must say they really add safety to your driving. Was in tagaytay the other night and it was raining hard and foggy. Couldnt really see that much from the side/rear mirror and bad weather but the backup camera helped a lot. So it's not really to each his own... these safety techs are added benefits, I'm sure if your car has them, you'll appreciate it. let us not trash them just because our chosen car doesn't have one.

Yes I understand that pretty much.. true this enough that this reverse cams are added safety features but then it sometimes if not oftentimes makes one dependent on them that when u drive other cars without such features makes it “difficult” for them to back-up. But then again that is just me. So to each his own if it is a deciding factor when buying new cars... im in my 5th decade of life and learned how to drive when i was 10 years old.. handled many diff cars and today most new cars makes us dependent on their electrical wizardy..

[TheUninvited]

Yes I understand that pretty much.. true this enough that this reverse cams are added safety features but then it sometimes if not oftentimes makes one dependent on them that when u drive other cars without such features makes it “difficult” for them to back-up. But then again that is just me. So to each his own if it is a deciding factor when buying new cars... im in my 5th decade of life and learned how to drive when i was 10 years old.. handled many diff cars and today most new cars makes us dependent on their electrical wizardy..

Understandable naman na walang backup cam and 2 lang airbags ng V since it's the base model ata. Since most will cheap out sa specs ng base of course.

For the TS, go for the higher trim kung gusto mo talaga Fortuner, kase under spec yung V variant vs the competition.

And it's just a Toyota.

[Kimchijiji]

Understandable naman na walang backup cam and 2 lang airbags ng V since it's the base model ata. Since most will cheap out sa specs ng base of course.

For the TS, go for the higher trim kung gusto mo talaga Fortuner, kase under spec yung V variant vs the competition.

And it's just a Toyota.

I dont know if youre trolling or what, v is the highest variant of toyota.


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[TheUninvited]

I dont know if youre trolling or what, v is the highest variant of toyota.


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Ay ngek, if ganun pala, then no question na pala dapat to.

Unless the TS wants to spend more for much much less.

"It's a Toyota" means nothing nowadays, more like it's a negative thing already.

[Sweetlucious]

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[crosswind]

Blindpick nalang if you like both cars hehe.
Can't decide too since I drive both mux and fortuner.

How about ask your wife and your kids?

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[dr. d]

Blindpick nalang if you like both cars hehe.
Can't decide too since I drive both mux and fortuner.

How about ask your wife and your kids?

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you are saying, as a driver with experience on both, that it's a hard call to decide which?

[dr. d]

Ay ngek, if ganun pala, then no question na pala dapat to.

Unless the TS wants to spend more for much much less.

"It's a Toyota" means nothing nowadays, more like it's a negative thing already.

to a significant number of buyers, "it's a toyota" means a lot.
just lookit the local sales figures.

[Wh1stl3r]

Are you really set on a PPV? I'd give the Terra a look. But for ease of use, fuel efficiency and comfort I'd still get a diesel CR-V.

[crosswind]

you are saying, as a driver with experience on both, that it's a hard call to decide which?

Yes doc hehe.

I can give ts a list on what I like about the two
Fortuner: the tech and the brown leather seats and ease of driving here in traffic ridden Manila.
The automatic roll down windows do I really need it, don't think so just a want.

Mux: Ride comfort, space( especially if I move the driver seat back to its farthest position and effortless cruising speed


Btw the one I currently drive is both the 2016 models 4x2 v and 4x2 3.0 LS-A

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[Shutterbug]

It truly is a deciding factor when buying "new" cars especially if the competition is already offering the reverse cam and more for the same price range.
Yes, technology might make us a little dependent on them.. as we move forward, these techs will eventually become standard on all cars... but if it's put there to make the drive safer or more convenient then why not right?!

Yes I understand that pretty much.. true this enough that this reverse cams are added safety features but then it sometimes if not oftentimes makes one dependent on them that when u drive other cars without such features makes it “difficult” for them to back-up. But then again that is just me. So to each his own if it is a deciding factor when buying new cars... im in my 5th decade of life and learned how to drive when i was 10 years old.. handled many diff cars and today most new cars makes us dependent on their electrical wizardy..

[jigeloh]

Sa Meron ESC ako.

Fortuner wala


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[LN106G]

It truly is a deciding factor when buying "new" cars especially if the competition is already offering the reverse cam and more for the same price range.
Yes, technology might make us a little dependent on them.. as we move forward, these techs will eventually become standard on all cars... but if it's put there to make the drive safer or more convenient then why not right?!

Not for me. I see the whole package, the aftersales service, the aftermarket support, the availability of parts after 3-5 years or so. I see this (reverse cam) as optional "desserts". What good is a car with a reverse cam if the aftersales service and the likes are poorly addressed down the service life of the said car? but this is me personally speaking..

[Kimchijiji]

Or should i wait for the mid cycle facelift of fortuner? Or sobrang tagal pa nun?


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[TheUninvited]

Not for me. I see the whole package, the aftersales service, the aftermarket support, the availability of parts after 3-5 years or so. I see this (reverse cam) as optional "desserts". What good is a car with a reverse cam if the aftersales service and the likes are poorly addressed down the service life of the said car? but this is me personally speaking..

Well, yung V under-speced talaga.

Wala din pala vehicle stability control and kahit brake assist..


Kahit baduy yung MU-X na may ESC sticker sa likod, okay lang nu.

Sobrang importante din ng passive safety features like those, lalo na kapag SUV.

Can't really believe na the V variant is already totl for the 4x2.

Masyado kase bilib sa Toyota badge kaya na overlook mga ganyang bagay.. oh well pera nyo naman yan haha.

Classic example yung tito ko solid Toyota fan nabulag na. He got the V variant just last month.

Previous car was 4x2 G na 1st gen Fortuner (last facelift).

Ilang beses na siya tinirik nun tapos daming premature defects like failed alternator..

Buti pa sa US magiging mandated na ang reverse camera as of next year..

[dr. d]

Ilang beses na siya tinirik nun tapos daming premature defects like failed alternator..

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what were the causes of the tiriks, sir?

[TheUninvited]

!!!
what were the causes of the tiriks, sir?

Failed alternator and clogged fuel lines and filter (separate incidents).. Casa maintained btw.

Happened during its 3rd and 4th year, respectively. Turned out faulty yung fuel gauge/sensor.

Scary lang kase bigla nag off makina sa TPLEX, buti na lang he was able to stop just fine.

[LN106G]

Failed alternator and clogged fuel lines and filter (separate incidents).. Casa maintained btw.

Happened during its 3rd and 4th year, respectively. Turned out faulty yung fuel gauge/sensor.

Scary lang kase bigla nag off makina sa TPLEX, buti na lang he was able to stop just fine.

- Failed alternator? hmmmmmnn.. Was your tito's car used in fording rivers or floodwaters? or is he fond of engine wash? this part don't just easily gets damaged unless the owner neglected it.

- Clogged Fuel Lines? - did they replace fuel filters during the when it was time to be replaced? at every 40k km mileage? you mentioned it was casa maintained

- faulty gauge/sensor? - I presume you are referring to the fuel float? if so, these part don't just conk out easily, unless the owner is fond driving with the fuel tank almost empty or near empty and puts fuel just to turn off the "low fuel" icon

My cousin and some family members have D4D engined vehicles some with more than 250k km mileage and with regular PMS never had those problems you mentioned above

[TheUninvited]

- Failed alternator? hmmmmmnn.. Was your tito's car used in fording rivers or floodwaters? or is he fond of engine wash? this part don't just easily gets damaged unless the owner neglected it.

- Clogged Fuel Lines? - did they replace fuel filters during the when it was time to be replaced? at every 40k km mileage? you mentioned it was casa maintained

- faulty gauge/sensor? - I presume you are referring to the fuel float? if so, these part don't just conk out easily, unless the owner is fond driving with the fuel tank almost empty or near empty and puts fuel just to turn off the "low fuel" icon

My cousin and some family members have D4D engined vehicles some with more than 250k km mileage and with regular PMS never had those problems you mentioned above

Nasa 80k mileage na since it's a daily + provincial business trips.

I don't have the complete details but I'm sure that it's not abused, so I think it's a defect talaga from the factory. Perhaps not widespread, pero yun ang experience nya eh.

It's casa maintained and no reason to cheap out sa maintenance since the company pays for it anyway. If meron hindi napalitang part, then it's the casa's fault. Eitherway, ang masisisi lang dito is the service or the part, which is both Toyota

I myself had a Vios gen 1, sakit din sa ulo (engine hesitation, broken power locks/windows...). I don't want kwento anymore, too many defects to mention.

[dr. d]

Failed alternator and clogged fuel lines and filter (separate incidents).. Casa maintained btw.

Happened during its 3rd and 4th year, respectively. Turned out faulty yung fuel gauge/sensor.

Scary lang kase bigla nag off makina sa TPLEX, buti na lang he was able to stop just fine.

failed alternator is nothing new.
a number of us had it in our 2005 innovae.
and as everyone knows, casas do not repair. they replace. "bearing daw, and can not be replaced", according to the casa.
and since the model was still new at that time, "no one outside the casa had any repair parts for it"...
i still have that failed alternator in my bodega. perhaps if i bring it out now, someone can repair it, and i can sell it for the price of a nice dinner with the family....

clogged fuel lines!
where do you gas up?
i never had clogged fuel lines.