help:idiot's guide to car stereo & speakers

[gaboy]

mga bossing, let us assume na newbie ka pa lang at meron kang nabiling 2nd hand tsikot pero walang stereo and speakers, pano mo sisimulan magset-up, diy, ng sounds kung gusto mo magkaroon lang ng mapapakinggan while driving?

what specs should you look for in a car stereo if your budget is only around 5k?

sa speakers naman, kung sa rear ka lang maglalagay, ano ba dapat ang ilagay mo, seps, 6x9 o yung 3-way na round?assuming budget is around 2.5-3k.

please suggest brands na medyo may quality pero affordable naman.

tnx!

[ssaloon]

5k for headunit and front speakers? nako medyo tight budget ka. shop around for 2nd hand stuff.

[gaboy]

sir, 5k po sa hu at 3 k po sa speakers. so mga 8 k po in total

5k for headunit and front speakers? nako medyo tight budget ka. shop around for 2nd hand stuff.

[funkngruvn]

IMO hanap ka na lang ng magandang mura na 2nd hand head unit, tapos yung savings mo idagdag mo na lang pambili ng speakers, kasi parang kulang ang 3k na budget kung good sound..

[ARB]

for 5k you can get a pioneer 2950. for 3k na speakers marami dyan.

[KrisKros]

I wouldn't worry about the rear speakers muna. Worry about your headunit, and speakers up front. headunit with MP3 player can run you less than 5k, Pioneer's 2950. Seps, you can use Targa seps, mine cost me P1,350. Wires and install isn't really a problem, since, it should be pretty easy install. You'll spend no more than 6k if you go 2950 and Targa Seps up front.

[CPY61]

With the Pioneer HU, I went with KS-series kickers upfront with tweeters (magkasama sila) so no need to buy them individually. THen after that when budget permits, kickers 3-way speakers (mid-range,round-type) sa rear. I have clear and enjoyable sounds when driving and especially pag-traffic.

[1D4LV]

5k for HU? there are entry level Pioneer HUs at that price. MP3 capable na yun. also, look for the entry level nung Sony Xplod. As far as i know, mga 4200 pesos ata sya.

sa rear speakers, 6 x 9 ang ilagay mo. afaik, may ganyan din ang pioneer. mga 3.2k ata per set.

kung may sobra pang budget, targa separates sa front.

[nicolodeon]

for 5K, you can get a pretty decent HU from Raon (Proline brand). Proline has several models under 5K that has a CD player already and a 3-band EQ. Some even have built-in boosters/amplifiers.

For speakers under 3K, Raon is also the place to go. You can get a 50-60W 3-way coaxial speakers for 2.8-3K - Proline or Micro brand.

[userfriendly]

I'd go with Pioneer 2950 or 3950 mp3 player with a good set of features and proven brand. Should fit your 5000 budget. Get Targa seps for your speakers and install them in the front. Leave rear fill for now. Next time you have some money, get a Fenton or V12 4 channel amp and a sub.

[KrisKros]

According to Jeff Tan, here's a pricelist of his Pioneer headunits
1950 p3500
2950 p4400
3950 p4800
4950 p5200

2950 or 3950 ka nalang, at least branded siya, and it's a trusted name in the car audio field.
Forget the rear speakers, just like userfriendly said. When you listen to music at a live show, live concert, the music comes from the front..not from the rear. so, emphasize more on the front speakers. Then when you get extra cash... 2k for a 12" sub is good enough, 1k for the sealed box, V12 amp should cost no more than 3k, then wires and install is 1k-2k.

[userfriendly]

Mas ok 3950 since you get 2 rca outs compared with 1 rca out ng 2950. 400 lang naman ang difference, sulit yan pag nag amp ka na. If you can get the 4950, mas ok pa since the aux in is at the back and you get a rca sub out.

Bilis bumaba ng prices, I just bought a 4950 early this year for around 5900.

[gaboy]

salamat po sa mga replies mga bossing!

yung 4950 po ba removable yung face ng stereo? mahirap na po kasi e, baka manakaw! at meron po ba yung kabitan pang i-pod o mp3 player nung mga nasa cdr king?

sa seps naman po ba, targa po ba ang mura na brand pero may quality din?
may mga size po ba yan?
at kapag targa seps po ba ang binili, may kasama ba yung tweeter o kailangan pang bumili?

pwede bang i-diy ang installation ng seps?

[merkinball]

Regarding speakers, i have a 1990 Galant SS with 2 speakers at the top of the dashboard and 2 at the back. Are there Targa speakers compatible for dashboard installation? I think the front speakers are 3-4 inches...and what Targa spkr can i put at the back?
what are my options (with limited budget in mind)?
I'm eyeing for the 3950 or 4950 Pioneer HU but i'm having 2nd thoughts coz i'm looking for the SD card feature w/c is avail in the Audiomobile HU...

And by the way, what does SEPS mean?

Thanks guys!!!

[KrisKros]

*Gaboy: Yep, the Targa seps are a set. Tweeters and midbass speaker. It's good quality bro. I've seen many targa seps used at car shows. Bang for the buck talaga. The x652c speaker is 6.5", and it comes with tweeters. Yep, you can DIY, or you can ask your shop if they can install it for you. It's a quick and easy install, so they might do it for free.
I think most Pioneer headunits have removeable face..including the 4950.
You can attach an MP3 player through the aux-in. But, if your portable mp3 player has bad sound quality, then, you will also get bad sound quality in your car. You can burn an MP3 cd, and hold over 100 songs.. and it will have great playback. We tried my brother's MP3 player and hooked it up to the aux in, and the sound quality sounded very... muffled. So it depends on the quality the portable mp3 player can produce.

*merkinball: Seps is short for Seperates. It comes with a seperate tweeter, and seperate midbass speaker. Sometimes the tweeter is attached already to the midbas speaker. But with seps, you can have the option to customize your "sound stage"..by placing the tweeter at different locations, and pointing at different angles.
This website is the Daiichi website, and there's specs and pics of the different Targa speakers. The 2nd page has a picture of the Targa seperates. The X652c is the one I got.
[URL="http://www.daiichi.ph/car.htm[/URL]

[gaboy]

pano po ba malalaman ang size ng seps na kailangan mong bilhin kung sa may front doors mo ito ikakabit?

[funkngruvn]

* kriskros bosing kasya ba yung targa na x652c sa butas na 6" sa door panel? 6" speaker yung nakalagay ngayon e.... tnx sir!

[KrisKros]

* kriskros bosing kasya ba yung targa na x652c sa butas na 6" sa door panel? 6" speaker yung nakalagay ngayon e.... tnx sir!

For me,the problem is, it goes in deep and the magnet is pretty fat hehe. So If i pushed it all the way in, it hits my glass. So I made a makeshift spacer from old tsinelas hehehe. I just cut a small square size portion on the slippers, and used that as a spacer. My stock speakers were probably 3-4 inch speakers, but it had an adaptor to fit in the 5 inch hole. The adaptor is like a round around the speaker, and the disc is mounted on the hole.

I don't think you'd have too much of a problem fitting in the Targa 6.5" in a 6", just look out for the back end of the speaker hitting your glass. That's been a problem with B13 Sentras, but I think the majority of other cars, it fits no problem. If there needs to be adjustment it's very slight adjustment.

[simplicity]

tanong din po:
ang stock front speakers ko sa ESi ko is 4", i think.
maliit lang siya eh.

will upgrading to a bigger one need some cutting on my inner door panel?