nid help for a newbie

**jhnkvn** · January 1st, 2011 02:46 PM

Go for the seps. Definitely would hear a better improvement to your Sony coaxials

Afterwards, most people would stop at this point. It's a basic audio layout: sep, amp, sub. If you want to step it up a notch, it'll begin to be expensive.

First thing is a better amplifier. Budget around 10k so you have room for your separates to "grow" (since seps increase in nominal RMS the more expensive it gets.. ex. 120W na Focal PolyKevlar (Php20k+) vs sa mga 50W ng Php5k seps.

Afterwards, you can either get a better pair of seps or a better woofer. I'd go for the better seps since most of the sound you'll be hearing would come from them. Woofers comes afterwards for me.

Some opts to buy an equalizer. Contrary to popular opinion that the EQ should be adjusted to suit your taste, the EQ is normally just adjusted to compensate for your car's audio deficiency. So the correct usage of it is just a one-time calibration done by an audio specialist (ikaw, kung kaya mo

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But one of the best and most apparent benefits would come from: sound deadening materials on your doors. This reduces overall outside noise. Think of it like switching from stock Apple iPod earphones to IEMs (in-ears). Less noise = less sound (good for your ears), more details (since less noise), and better yet, less stress (sa mga jeepney na katabi mong maingay

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**dalandan27** · January 1st, 2011 09:17 PM

seps na lang nga muna, merong inaalok sakin ung isang shop dito na DLS, di ko lang natanong kung UP6 or X-program or whatsoever, 4.5k yung price dito and negotiable pa daw, libre na ang labor pag sa kanila binili yung seps, so sa tingin mo sir, ok na ba ang DLS na to?

kung makakabili ako nito eh siguro tigil muna ako dito, next year na ulit gastusan ang more expensive amp and etc.

about sound deadening, ang alam ko mahal ang aabutin nito kapag mga pinto,compartment ang pinaganito, but very effective naman daw at ma ririnig mo ang difference. pero mahal, saka na muna siguro.

**beni23** · January 1st, 2011 10:20 PM

Bro, I think ang inooffer sayo nung shop is DLS X-SD62, entry level separates ng DLS. I suggest try mo muna i-audi yung speaker. It's a decent set of speakers.

IMO, ok na ito kasi sabi mo nga di ka rin ganun kalakas magpatugtog. Ipainstall mo ito sa amp channel mo, 4 channel naman yung amp mo. Pero sigurado ako mangangati ka in the future at magaupgrade ka. Hehe.

Upgrade itch!

**dalandan27** · January 1st, 2011 11:30 PM

i see, baka nga yun nga ung inoofer na DLS, magkano po ba price range ng UP6?? yun ba yung ka kumpetensya ng focal?

pwede naman nga siguro i pa audi ko, pero pag maganda naman eh ito na gagamitin kong seps, at kung meron pa iba ioffer sakin dun eh itanong ko sa inyo at baka meron kayong review/experience dun sa seps n yun,

so iconnect ko sya sa amp, and then yung rear speakers as HU na lang?

saka na yung pag uupgrade sa future haha..
thanks!

**beni23** · January 1st, 2011 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by dalandan27

i see, baka nga yun nga ung inoofer na DLS, magkano po ba price range ng UP6?? yun ba yung ka kumpetensya ng focal?

pwede naman nga siguro i pa audi ko, pero pag maganda naman eh ito na gagamitin kong seps, at kung meron pa iba ioffer sakin dun eh itanong ko sa inyo at baka meron kayong review/experience dun sa seps n yun,

so iconnect ko sya sa amp, and then yung rear speakers as HU na lang?

saka na yung pag uupgrade sa future haha..
thanks!

Ang alam ko price ng UP6 is 17k+, not sure though. Also, I suggest you upgrade your amplifier immediately, may bad experiences kasi ako sa V12.

Yes bro, yung rear speakers sa HU na lang. In fact kahit di mo na gamitin ang rear speakers mo. HU + DLS seps + a good sub + konting tono = :2thumbsup:

**dalandan27** · January 2nd, 2011 02:56 PM

thanks sir, di ko pala kaya yung UP6 na un, but ung Xprograms is good na ba? meron dun MB quartz, but sabi naman ni sir jhnkvn, 1st tier nia ung focal at dls, 2nd tier eh morel,cadence,. san kaya jan papatak ang mb quartz?

about the ampli, baka mga february o march na muna yun, mag iipon muna ulet.. meron na din naman siguro sa 3-5k na bang for the buck na ampflier.

regardin rear speakers, hindi ko maitodo yung box ng subs ko paloob, dahil nung magnet ata ng rear, pag tinanggal ko ba yung rear eh kasama na yung magnet? sasabit kasi pag tinodo ko yung box. pagkakamali ko hindi ko napasukatan muna, basta na lang nabili yung box..

**jhnkvn** · January 4th, 2011 11:51 PM

Based on personal listening preference lang yan. in fact, I like Morels as much as I want Focals. Pero umiiba yun mga mukha ng tao kapag ni-introduce mo yun sounds mo as "Focals" eh

It's brand-name power.

But between Morels and Quartz? Nasa Morels ako. Quartz is still good, make no mistake, but I think Morels offer a better bang-per-buck nowadays. Pero abot sa mga ganito, personal opinions lang ito. The best way to know if it suits you is if you audition it.

For a brief overview, these are most probably your choices:

Morels

DLS X-Program
For some reason di ko malagyan ng image tags so URL nalang: (http://www.mickeysautosound.com/comp...DjFhRUESKw.jpg)

MB Quartz
(http://lacaraccessories.com/componen...c28ff56c8f.jpg)

Frankly, I'll go for the Morels. I think DLS skimped a bit on the "packaging" sa X-Program nila, but since I haven't hear the sound, I won't give out opinions about it.

Focal's entry-level Access lineup is still expensive kahit sabihin natin "entry". It's priced around 7-8k AFAIK. It's peer is DLS RS6.

**dalandan27** · January 5th, 2011 12:02 AM

may pinapatry sakin dito yung shop na pinagpapagawaan ko, ok naman yung mga naging feed back nung iba bout dun sa seps, Firland audio EV-622w seperates,sabi nila eh ok naman daw at pinaparinig sa akin nung isang naka firland, 3,500php xa, ok daw ito kung bang per buck, yung tira ko na lang daw na sana eh pang morel/mb quartz eh ipunin ko para makabili ng good amp/subs. dahil ang subs ko nga eh pamana lang sa akin,

any review or comment po sir dito sa firland audio na ev-622w? sa facebook ko lang nakita / na search sila,

TIA sir!

**jhnkvn** · January 5th, 2011 12:34 AM

Most of the time, you'll be listening to your separates so give all you got on your separates. Personally, I don't compromise on just two stuff: speakers and amplifiers.

**dalandan27** · January 11th, 2011 09:11 PM

sir, buhayin ko lang po ito, mei inaalok sa akin na v12 nv-805 (keylargo) pa daw, i dont know kung ano itong keylargo pero sabi niya eh classA brand + JBL GT5-12 12" = 5k po mei box na ported na. ok lang po ba siya? mabubusog ba ng amp na yan ang JBL na yan pag bridged? kung tama ang pag ka intindi ko sa bridged ay +wire ng subs eh sa ch1 at -wire ng subs eh sa ch2. tas ung ch3 at 4 eh sa seps na lang, sa tingin nio po mga sir?