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  1. Join Date
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    #21
    sir detailing,
    thanks sa courtesy pic and explanations, yun palang nasa sm north na
    v-12 is fake, mahalata agad sa price nila anlaki ng difference.
    salamas po.

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    #22
    Quote Originally Posted by ILuvDetailing
    mga bossing, meron pong V12 na orig (from Alpine), at V12 na fake >> made in China. Price range of the fake V12 is around 2.5K to around 5K depending on the model. Orig V12 range from 10K and up. Sa orig na Alpine V12 engraved yung "V12", sa fake, printed lang.

    Here's a sample of the original Alpine V12


    Sample of a fake V12


    Don't get me wrong fake V12's aren't bad. Dun din ako nagsimula, there great bang for the buck amps but if you can't go wrong with the original stuff.
    Ah ganon pala yon. So ibig palang sabihin kung may nokia cellphone ako na Nokia N91 na Made in Finland at ang isa ay Nokia na N91 din na Made in China naman. Fake pala ang itatawag ko dun sa made in china na Nokia.

    Salamat ha sa pagbibigay mo ng malinaw na paliwanag.

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    #23
    Quote Originally Posted by flagg
    Aba, increased speed... parang Khaos na pala ang capacitor.
    HINDI NAMAN PARANG KHAOS ANG MAGIGING RULE NANG CAPACITOR.KUNG ANG SAKSAKYAN MO AY EFI,SIYIMPRE KAILANGAN NYAN PALAGING 12VOLTS ANG BATTERY MO PARA MORE EFFECTIVE ANG EFI.PAG BUMABA SA 12VOLTS GAYA NANG MARAMING ELECTRONIC ITEM NA NAIDAGDAG SA KOTSE MO AT MINSAN MABAGAL ANG ALTERNATOR MAG CHARGE,ANG EFI MO AY BABABA RIN ANG EFFECTIVENESS NYAN.KAYA MINSAN MAGTATAKA KA EFI NATO MEDYO MAHINA PA.MAS NAKAKAIGI NA MAY CAPACITOR DAHIL ORA MISMO PAG MAY CAPACITOR MORE THAN 12 VOLTS AGAD ANG BATTERY MO.THAT IS WHY WHEN YOU START YOUR CAR MADALI LANG MAG START AT SA GABI MAGUGULAT KA NA MALIWANAG ANG LIGTHS MO DAHIL ANG BATTERY MO NGA IS BEING HELP BY THE CAPACITOR FROM LESS THAN 12 TO MORE THAN 12 VOLTS.THE CAPACITOR IS REALLY GOOD FOR ALL ELECTRONIC ITEMS NA NAIDAGDAG MO SA KOTSE MO.ANY BRAND OF CAR KASI NA CHECK NA NILA SA KASA/MANUFACTURER NA TAMA LANG YAN ELECTRONIC ITEM NA NALAGAY NILA SA CAR .IF YOU ADD MORE ELECTRONIC ITEM ,SIYIMPRE KAILANGAN MO NANG MORE POWER IF NOT 12 VOLTS ALWAYS TO COMPENSATE FOR THE ADDED ITEM.COMPARE TO KHAOS SIYIMPRE MALAYO SIYA,KAYA LANG MAY PAGBABAGO SA SPEED MO BUT NOT LIKE KHAOS. TRY IT FRIEND,MAGUGULAT KA MORE THAN FIVE YEARS HINDI KA MAGPAPALIT NANG BATTERY MO.

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    #24
    Quote Originally Posted by ortitzrl
    HINDI NAMAN PARANG KHAOS ANG MAGIGING RULE NANG CAPACITOR.KUNG ANG SAKSAKYAN MO AY EFI,SIYIMPRE KAILANGAN NYAN PALAGING 12VOLTS ANG BATTERY MO PARA MORE EFFECTIVE ANG EFI.PAG BUMABA SA 12VOLTS GAYA NANG MARAMING ELECTRONIC ITEM NA NAIDAGDAG SA KOTSE MO AT MINSAN MABAGAL ANG ALTERNATOR MAG CHARGE,ANG EFI MO AY BABABA RIN ANG EFFECTIVENESS NYAN.KAYA MINSAN MAGTATAKA KA EFI NATO MEDYO MAHINA PA.MAS NAKAKAIGI NA MAY CAPACITOR DAHIL ORA MISMO PAG MAY CAPACITOR MORE THAN 12 VOLTS AGAD ANG BATTERY MO.THAT IS WHY WHEN YOU START YOUR CAR MADALI LANG MAG START AT SA GABI MAGUGULAT KA NA MALIWANAG ANG LIGTHS MO DAHIL ANG BATTERY MO NGA IS BEING HELP BY THE CAPACITOR FROM LESS THAN 12 TO MORE THAN 12 VOLTS.THE CAPACITOR IS REALLY GOOD FOR ALL ELECTRONIC ITEMS NA NAIDAGDAG MO SA KOTSE MO.ANY BRAND OF CAR KASI NA CHECK NA NILA SA KASA/MANUFACTURER NA TAMA LANG YAN ELECTRONIC ITEM NA NALAGAY NILA SA CAR .IF YOU ADD MORE ELECTRONIC ITEM ,SIYIMPRE KAILANGAN MO NANG MORE POWER IF NOT 12 VOLTS ALWAYS TO COMPENSATE FOR THE ADDED ITEM.COMPARE TO KHAOS SIYIMPRE MALAYO SIYA,KAYA LANG MAY PAGBABAGO SA SPEED MO BUT NOT LIKE KHAOS. TRY IT FRIEND,MAGUGULAT KA MORE THAN FIVE YEARS HINDI KA MAGPAPALIT NANG BATTERY MO.
    pre, na-stuck yata yung caps lock mo. o baka naninigaw ka? ;)

    once again, a capacitor does help improve the performance and reliability of high-powered sound systems. but first of all, a stock car electrical system is built to handle something like 25% extra load - more than enough to power a low/medium wattage system. second, suggesting that someone spend their tight budget on capacitors instead of high quality separates (which will make or break a system) is simply poor advice. sorry.

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by jezreel
    Ah ganon pala yon. So ibig palang sabihin kung may nokia cellphone ako na Nokia N91 na Made in Finland at ang isa ay Nokia na N91 din na Made in China naman. Fake pala ang itatawag ko dun sa made in china na Nokia.

    Salamat ha sa pagbibigay mo ng malinaw na paliwanag.
    Bossing, maling comparison yan. Nokia Finland, Nokia China, etc. are made by the same company so may quality control yan. The reason they outsourced to other countries is that labor in china is cheaper. In the case of the V12 series, the original V12 was manufactured by Alpine, fake V12's AREN'T manufactured by Alpine but by an independent electronic firm which I don't know.

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    #26
    Quote Originally Posted by ILuvDetailing
    Bossing, maling comparison yan. Nokia Finland, Nokia China, etc. are made by the same company so may quality control yan. The reason they outsourced to other countries is that labor in china is cheaper. In the case of the V12 series, the original V12 was manufactured by Alpine, fake V12's AREN'T manufactured by Alpine but by an independent electronic firm which I don't know.
    Sa first explaination mo kasi parang nag-create ng misconception na pag Made in China fake yon (base from your comparison). YOu've got the right explanation this time. Yan pre ang dapat na explaination mo nung una pa that's why nasabi ko yon. Pero its better kung ang pinagkumpara mo have the same model and physical appearances ng Alpine na orig at fake, I think mas madaling ma-pick-up yong gustong mong iparating.

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    #27
    Quote Originally Posted by kabuke0
    mag-kano bili mo sa head unit mo? san nabili?
    binili ko sa carribean around $200...

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by jezreel
    Sa first explaination mo kasi parang nag-create ng misconception na pag Made in China fake yon (base from your comparison). YOu've got the right explanation this time. Yan pre ang dapat na explaination mo nung una pa that's why nasabi ko yon. Pero its better kung ang pinagkumpara mo have the same model and physical appearances ng Alpine na orig at fake, I think mas madaling ma-pick-up yong gustong mong iparating.
    hehe, my apologies if I caused any confusion. I don't think there are similar models per se (orig and fake alpine), the first pic is an original Alpine V12 MRV F340, I saw a similarly designed fake V12 in Raon >> an MRV F604, at first glance the look the same but when you look closely you can see the difference, di ko nakunan ng pic hehe.

    The 2nd pic shown is my friends amp, an "Alpine" V12 MRV F710. It performs pretty good for its price, it has a big 80 A fuse, and pumps out around 125w RMS (guestimate).
    Last edited by ILuvDetailing; June 5th, 2006 at 10:15 PM.

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    #29
    Quote Originally Posted by ILuvDetailing
    hehe, my apologies if I caused any confusion. I don't think there are similar models per se (orig and fake alpine), the first pic is an original Alpine V12 MRV F340, I saw a similarly designed fake V12 in Raon >> an MRV F604, at first glance the look the same but when you look closely you can see the difference, di ko nakunan ng pic hehe.

    The 2nd pic shown is my friends amp, an "Alpine" V12 MRV F805. It performs pretty good for its price, it has a big 80 A fuse, and pumps out around 125w RMS (guestimate).
    I think it has 3600W ng makita ko first time yang MRV F 805, even the lower model na Alpine V12 NV-805 performs also well, but like you said it is also a China made.

  10. #30
    MRV F710 pala model sa pic , edited my post.

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