konting tulong sa pagsetup ng sounds

[ortitzrl]

Aba, increased speed... parang Khaos na pala ang capacitor.

HINDI NAMAN PARANG KHAOS ANG MAGIGING RULE NANG CAPACITOR.KUNG ANG SAKSAKYAN MO AY EFI,SIYIMPRE KAILANGAN NYAN PALAGING 12VOLTS ANG BATTERY MO PARA MORE EFFECTIVE ANG EFI.PAG BUMABA SA 12VOLTS GAYA NANG MARAMING ELECTRONIC ITEM NA NAIDAGDAG SA KOTSE MO AT MINSAN MABAGAL ANG ALTERNATOR MAG CHARGE,ANG EFI MO AY BABABA RIN ANG EFFECTIVENESS NYAN.KAYA MINSAN MAGTATAKA KA EFI NATO MEDYO MAHINA PA.MAS NAKAKAIGI NA MAY CAPACITOR DAHIL ORA MISMO PAG MAY CAPACITOR MORE THAN 12 VOLTS AGAD ANG BATTERY MO.THAT IS WHY WHEN YOU START YOUR CAR MADALI LANG MAG START AT SA GABI MAGUGULAT KA NA MALIWANAG ANG LIGTHS MO DAHIL ANG BATTERY MO NGA IS BEING HELP BY THE CAPACITOR FROM LESS THAN 12 TO MORE THAN 12 VOLTS.THE CAPACITOR IS REALLY GOOD FOR ALL ELECTRONIC ITEMS NA NAIDAGDAG MO SA KOTSE MO.ANY BRAND OF CAR KASI NA CHECK NA NILA SA KASA/MANUFACTURER NA TAMA LANG YAN ELECTRONIC ITEM NA NALAGAY NILA SA CAR .IF YOU ADD MORE ELECTRONIC ITEM ,SIYIMPRE KAILANGAN MO NANG MORE POWER IF NOT 12 VOLTS ALWAYS TO COMPENSATE FOR THE ADDED ITEM.COMPARE TO KHAOS SIYIMPRE MALAYO SIYA,KAYA LANG MAY PAGBABAGO SA SPEED MO BUT NOT LIKE KHAOS. TRY IT FRIEND,MAGUGULAT KA MORE THAN FIVE YEARS HINDI KA MAGPAPALIT NANG BATTERY MO.

[empy]

HINDI NAMAN PARANG KHAOS ANG MAGIGING RULE NANG CAPACITOR.KUNG ANG SAKSAKYAN MO AY EFI,SIYIMPRE KAILANGAN NYAN PALAGING 12VOLTS ANG BATTERY MO PARA MORE EFFECTIVE ANG EFI.PAG BUMABA SA 12VOLTS GAYA NANG MARAMING ELECTRONIC ITEM NA NAIDAGDAG SA KOTSE MO AT MINSAN MABAGAL ANG ALTERNATOR MAG CHARGE,ANG EFI MO AY BABABA RIN ANG EFFECTIVENESS NYAN.KAYA MINSAN MAGTATAKA KA EFI NATO MEDYO MAHINA PA.MAS NAKAKAIGI NA MAY CAPACITOR DAHIL ORA MISMO PAG MAY CAPACITOR MORE THAN 12 VOLTS AGAD ANG BATTERY MO.THAT IS WHY WHEN YOU START YOUR CAR MADALI LANG MAG START AT SA GABI MAGUGULAT KA NA MALIWANAG ANG LIGTHS MO DAHIL ANG BATTERY MO NGA IS BEING HELP BY THE CAPACITOR FROM LESS THAN 12 TO MORE THAN 12 VOLTS.THE CAPACITOR IS REALLY GOOD FOR ALL ELECTRONIC ITEMS NA NAIDAGDAG MO SA KOTSE MO.ANY BRAND OF CAR KASI NA CHECK NA NILA SA KASA/MANUFACTURER NA TAMA LANG YAN ELECTRONIC ITEM NA NALAGAY NILA SA CAR .IF YOU ADD MORE ELECTRONIC ITEM ,SIYIMPRE KAILANGAN MO NANG MORE POWER IF NOT 12 VOLTS ALWAYS TO COMPENSATE FOR THE ADDED ITEM.COMPARE TO KHAOS SIYIMPRE MALAYO SIYA,KAYA LANG MAY PAGBABAGO SA SPEED MO BUT NOT LIKE KHAOS. TRY IT FRIEND,MAGUGULAT KA MORE THAN FIVE YEARS HINDI KA MAGPAPALIT NANG BATTERY MO.

pre, na-stuck yata yung caps lock mo. o baka naninigaw ka? ;)

once again, a capacitor does help improve the performance and reliability of high-powered sound systems. but first of all, a stock car electrical system is built to handle something like 25% extra load - more than enough to power a low/medium wattage system. second, suggesting that someone spend their tight budget on capacitors instead of high quality separates (which will make or break a system) is simply poor advice. sorry.

[ortitzrl]

pre, na-stuck yata yung caps lock mo. o baka naninigaw ka? ;)

once again, a capacitor does help improve the performance and reliability of high-powered sound systems. but first of all, a stock car electrical system is built to handle something like 25% extra load - more than enough to power a low/medium wattage system. second, suggesting that someone spend their tight budget on capacitors instead of high quality separates (which will make or break a system) is simply poor advice. sorry.

caps lock used to indicate what i'm saying is true.if you have all your electronic items on including the ac ,ligths and your engine all running during the nigth,rest assure you lacked power and your battery which have only 13% extra load ( not 25%) can not caugth up with the demand.kung payag ka sa payo ko ayus lang kung hindi naman ayus lang . just try wala namang mawawala sa iya.

[empy]

caps lock used to indicate what i'm saying is true.if you have all your electronic items on including the ac ,ligths and your engine all running during the nigth,rest assure you lacked power and your battery which have only 13% extra load ( not 25%) can not caugth up with the demand.kung payag ka sa payo ko ayus lang kung hindi naman ayus lang . just try wala namang mawawala sa iya.

bosing, hindi kita inaaway, ha? pero in commonly accepted 'netiquette' yung caps lock is shouting or intended to convey anger. payong kapatid lang - if you don't believe me just google it.

again, since dalawang beses ko na sinabi hindi parin tayo nagkakaintindihan - nakakatulong ang capacitor. tama ang sinabi mo about relieving strain on the battery. nag-disagree lang ako because you said the thread starter should spend his money on capacitors, but settle for 4 6x9 speakers. it's a much better use of his money to invest in high quality seps instead of capacitors.

hindi totoo na "wala namang mawawala sa kanya". i think kung gumastos siya ng 30k pero tunog basura yung system mo, may nawala sa kanya dun. kahit iwas-diskarga yung battery niya ;)

[ARB]

I don't know what capacitor type that is, but I think the work of the capacitor used for the sound system is that it stores power when there is a big need of electricity needed by the amp like when there is a big bass sound the battery cannot supply the required electricity the capacitor will fill in for the need, then it will recharge itself using the battery waiting for the next need of the amps. parang reservior ang trabaho nya.

a four channel v12 amp can power na your front speakers and subs. there are different types of v12 na fakes, just make sure that may warranty ang dealer.

but sa 30k budget and may existing HU ka na, I suggest DLS classic 8k, EFX amp 12k Kicker comp sub 6K with box and wiring kit 1k may sukli pa.

[empy]

you dont NEED a capacitor if your system only puts out enough wattage to power a single sub...as long as your electrical system is in good condition. a capacitor will help, but the thread starter mentioned that he's on a tight budget, so there are better uses for the money than capacitors...

...like getting something better than 6x9 speakers. just dont do it. kung hindi pasok sa budget yung separates, put your plans on hold and save up more money. there is a HUGE difference. the only thing i would even think about using 6x9's for is for rear fill (kung may separates ka na sa harap at may sub sa trunk...you can put either 6x9's (or preferably coaxials) in the rear speaker board just to fill out the soundstage.

[jomed]

sir detailing,
thanks sa courtesy pic and explanations, yun palang nasa sm north na
v-12 is fake, mahalata agad sa price nila anlaki ng difference.
salamas po.

[ILuvDetailing]

Ah ganon pala yon. So ibig palang sabihin kung may nokia cellphone ako na Nokia N91 na Made in Finland at ang isa ay Nokia na N91 din na Made in China naman. Fake pala ang itatawag ko dun sa made in china na Nokia.

Salamat ha sa pagbibigay mo ng malinaw na paliwanag.

Bossing, maling comparison yan. Nokia Finland, Nokia China, etc. are made by the same company so may quality control yan. The reason they outsourced to other countries is that labor in china is cheaper. In the case of the V12 series, the original V12 was manufactured by Alpine, fake V12's AREN'T manufactured by Alpine but by an independent electronic firm which I don't know.

[jezreel]

Bossing, maling comparison yan. Nokia Finland, Nokia China, etc. are made by the same company so may quality control yan. The reason they outsourced to other countries is that labor in china is cheaper. In the case of the V12 series, the original V12 was manufactured by Alpine, fake V12's AREN'T manufactured by Alpine but by an independent electronic firm which I don't know.

Sa first explaination mo kasi parang nag-create ng misconception na pag Made in China fake yon (base from your comparison). YOu've got the right explanation this time. Yan pre ang dapat na explaination mo nung una pa that's why nasabi ko yon. Pero its better kung ang pinagkumpara mo have the same model and physical appearances ng Alpine na orig at fake, I think mas madaling ma-pick-up yong gustong mong iparating.

[ILuvDetailing]

Sa first explaination mo kasi parang nag-create ng misconception na pag Made in China fake yon (base from your comparison). YOu've got the right explanation this time. Yan pre ang dapat na explaination mo nung una pa that's why nasabi ko yon. Pero its better kung ang pinagkumpara mo have the same model and physical appearances ng Alpine na orig at fake, I think mas madaling ma-pick-up yong gustong mong iparating.

hehe, my apologies if I caused any confusion. I don't think there are similar models per se (orig and fake alpine), the first pic is an original Alpine V12 MRV F340, I saw a similarly designed fake V12 in Raon >> an MRV F604, at first glance the look the same but when you look closely you can see the difference, di ko nakunan ng pic hehe.

The 2nd pic shown is my friends amp, an "Alpine" V12 MRV F710. It performs pretty good for its price, it has a big 80 A fuse, and pumps out around 125w RMS (guestimate).

[jezreel]

hehe, my apologies if I caused any confusion. I don't think there are similar models per se (orig and fake alpine), the first pic is an original Alpine V12 MRV F340, I saw a similarly designed fake V12 in Raon >> an MRV F604, at first glance the look the same but when you look closely you can see the difference, di ko nakunan ng pic hehe.

The 2nd pic shown is my friends amp, an "Alpine" V12 MRV F805. It performs pretty good for its price, it has a big 80 A fuse, and pumps out around 125w RMS (guestimate).

I think it has 3600W ng makita ko first time yang MRV F 805, even the lower model na Alpine V12 NV-805 performs also well, but like you said it is also a China made.

[ILuvDetailing]

MRV F710 pala model sa pic , edited my post.

[Flagg]

This is a great thread! Sir ortitzrl, don't worry, naka-cap ako.

With regard to your voltage & EFI thingy... EFI at its most basic is 3 things: ECU, fuel pump, injectors.

1.) ECUs by their own electronic nature have their own caps. They're those round thingies you see on the circuit board.

2.) Injectors do NOT pump fuel. They are valves, they simply open & close. They do not open and close halfway or 1/4-way, they are either opened or closed. They are sent a signal by the ECU to open or close... not much voltage needed there, for a signal.

3.) So what pushes the fuel? Your fuel pump. This is not electrical. This is a mechanical item run by the engine.

Therefore... nope, the cap will not make your car go faster or burn fuel better. Why do I have it? Better sound, and avoid untoward fluctuation damage to electrical items... you're absolutely right with your comment about headlights, but the cap as a speed gadget... as effective as KHAOS.

HTH

[ILuvDetailing]

For me, better get an Alternator upgrade over a Cap if your planning to install a high output setup.

[khryzm]

mdyo nalitot ako dun ah..ano ba tlga ang ok sa sinabi nyo.sencya na mga tol,la ako syado alam dito eh.

[ARB]

for 25K you can get JVC MP3 head unit 7k, front speakers na kicker seperates 6" 4.5k, sub na kicker 6k with box, V12 amp 4k, wiring harness 1.5K plus labor install. We install this kind of set-up sa mga cars most of the time and they sound good for the budget.

no offense ha but di na siguro uso ang 6x9 ngayon sa mga kotse, except sa mga vehicles with long seats sa rear part that face each other, we put 4 pcs 6x9 put it in a box below the long seats.

[enzo_dlc]

don't buy kicker seps with your budget. for entry level separates, mas ok pa ang targa or if you can go to the 5k range, jbl GTO. and as far as capacitors are concerned, i don't see any real need for them unless your system uses more than 1000W RMS and you use it heavily for long periods of time.

[enzo_dlc]

or go to www.kotseaudioclub.com. daming info na mahahanap dyan.

[badsekktor]

ask ko lag mga sound gurus... bakit meron mga setup na may multiple tweeters, seps and subs??? i mean iba-iba ba ang frequency range ng mga ito kaya mas clearer ang tunog or just a waste of money???

[ARB]

sa seps mas maganda ang sounds since the speakers have a passive crossover which gives the speakers the desired frequency they should make sa 3way, tweeters for highs, mid range for mids and woofer for mid bass. also sa seps you can position the tweets and mids in the dash for better imaging, its like you are listening to a concert and you feel that the the singer is in front of you. that is why nowadays rear speakers are not usually used sa mga set-up since when you watch a concert the sound usually comes from the front. if you notice sa mga sound set-up sa bahay if you are listening to music on stereo mode the sound is nice if the front speakers is being used.

if surround sound ang trip mo sa car then rear speakers is a must naman. it depends what kind of sound you are looking for of if you watch movies in your car its a different story.

have not heard of targa seps, if not kicker try DLS at 6K.