guys i need your suggestions on building a sound system

[onapaolo35]

Yes hi, like my topic says I need your suggestions on building an audio set-up. I like it to be SQ, and my ride is a Honda City '07 i-dsi, and my budget is about 20-25k. So can any of you guys help me out thank you in advance

[speed unlimited]

eto contact ni jeff tan
EFFTAN
7160213
09178556751
jefftan*lycos.com
YM: jefftan_aca
Araneta Car Accessories
Along Araneta Avenue,Q.C.
http://jefftan.carmarketph.com

[Kawawang Koboy]

Yes hi, like my topic says I need your suggestions on building an audio set-up. I like it to be SQ, and my ride is a Honda City '07 i-dsi, and my budget is about 20-25k. So can any of you guys help me out thank you in advance

Ang aking assumption dito paps e meron ka ng HU at di ito kasama dun sa 20-25k budget mo. Otherwise, para saken again...e medyo mahirap mag-SQ kung kasama pa din sa budget ang pagbili ng HU (bitin eh)..a must din para saken sa SQ na dapat yung HU mo e at least 3 RCA preouts para matimpla mo pa ng mas maganda at independently ang speaker components mo....Again Alpine ang preferred brand ko (nag-umpisa ako dati sa Pioneer nun pa high school ako)...Kung may moolah ka eh Eclipse..

BTW, mag-allot ka na ng around 7k for wiring (3k) and sub box (4k). So that leaves you around 18K for your SQ components kung 25k max lang talaga ang budget mo.

Para saken agen ha! eto ang aking suggested na pang-budget SQ components - Seps, Sub at Amps (kaw na bahalang magbudget dun sa natira mong 18k..atsaka kalimutan mo na yang rear coaxials na yan kung SQ ang gusto mo):

Entry Level Seps:
Morel Maximo 6.5" 2way - 5.7k
Cadence Seps 6.5" 2way - 4.8k to 6.4 (depends on the model)
DLS X-Program 6.5" 2way - 4.7k
Auditor (Focal sister brand to) 6.5" 2-way - 4.8k

Entry Level Subs (10 inch na lang para tipid sa presyo at trunk space):
JL W1v2 10W1v2 - 7.5k
RE REX10 - 4.3k
Focal 25A1 - 6.8k
Hifonics Brutus BX10D - 5.8k
Polk Audio DB10 - 3.5k

Entry Level Amp (1 4channel amp na lang)

Hifonics Titan TXi6408 - 11.4k
Powerbass ASA 600.4 - 10k (recommended)
RF R300 - 9.5k
Total Mobile Audio (JL Audio Sister Brand) TMA 360.4 - 5k

Eto naman ang nakita kong packages ng isang Audio shop sa Banawe na swak sa 25k mo...(di ko lang alam kung pang SQ o SPL application to ha? Yoko mag-comment..PM me na lang kung gusto mo malaman details about the shop ok? Kasi nabasa ko lang at ala ako experience dun sa shop na yun hihihi )

Package 1: P15,000
Sub: Memphis Streetedge 12
Amp: Soundmagus CK75
Seps: Firland EV602
with box, wiring, labor and tuning

Package 2: P17,000
Sub: Memphis Streetedge 12
Amp: Soundmagus V90.4
Seps: Firland EV602
with box, wiring, labor and tuning

Package 3: P19,500
Sub: Earthquake DB12
Amp: Soundmagus V160.4
Seps: Firland EV602
with box, wiring, labor and tuning

Package 4: P20,000
Sub: Powerbass PS12
Amp: Powerbass ASA600.4
Seps: Firland EV602
with box, wiring, labor and tuning

Package 5: P22,000
Sub: RE Audio REx 12
Amp: Soundmagus v90.4
Seps: Cadence ZRS 6k
with box, wiring, labor and tuning

Package 12: P20,000
Sub: Kicker ES124
Seps: Xprogram SD62
Amp: Kicker DX200.4
with wiring box labor and tuning

Package 13: P17,000
Sub: Mohawk MG124
Seps: Mohawk Crystal MC62
Amp: Mohawk MS400.4
with wiring, box, labor and tuning

Good luck sa project mo paps!

[Kawawang Koboy]

Kung ako papipiliin mo dun sa listahan ko paps e eto ang suhestyon ko for Budget SQ components.

Morel Maximo 6.5" 2way - 5.7k for seps
Polk Audio DB10 - 3.5k for sub
Powerbass ASA 600.4 - 10k for amp

Dagdag ka lang ng konting barya at sumobra sa natira mong 18k ang selection ko paps hihihi

[onapaolo35]

salamat bro sa mga suggestion niyo pagnakapag pakabit na ako ppost ko pictures dito at yung performance

[Kawawang Koboy]

Basta paps payong kapatid lang...wag ka na lang papakabit sa mga Blade, Ace Hardware, atbp. kasi medyo mas mahal dun at kokonti pa pagpipilian na brands (Pioneer, Sony, Ryan Audio lang ata). Madami dyan mga magagaling at subok na mga audio shops sa paligid ng Metro Manila (na malapit sa lugar mo)...all you need is ask, look and find

[onapaolo35]

feeling ko kelangan ko pa mag ipon ng unti pa ah ), tanong ko lang ano yung rear coaxials?

[Kawawang Koboy]

feeling ko kelangan ko pa mag ipon ng unti pa ah ), tanong ko lang ano yung rear coaxials?

Rear coaxials e yung mga speakers na usually ikinakabit sa likod sa ibabaw ng backboard mo.

Now since SQ or Sound Quality ang gusto mo eh mas dapat ang emphasis ng setup mo is sa clarity, detail and realism ng sound reproduction...as if pag nasa driver seat ka e parang nakaupo ka sa harap ng isang stage (which is your dashboard) na nanood ng isang live concert, Ang instrument sounds eh nasa left and right habang ang vocals (yung singer) e naririnig mo naman sa bandang gitna ng iyong dashboard.
Now kung magkakabit ka ng rear coaxials eh makakarinig ka na ng tunog sa likod di ba? Di parang di na realistic na nanonood ka ng concert sa stage sa harapan kasi baket may tunog sa likod? Pwede mga yan sa surround or home theater setup..Kaya ang suggestion ko eh wag ka na bumili ng rear coaxial speakers kasi di kailangan yun sa isang SQ setup..iwas extra gastos ka pa.

Di ako gaanong kadalubhasa sa car audio...pero what I gave you is a basic layman explanation of what an SQ setup should be.

Baket mag-iipon ka pa?...Akala ko ready na 25k mo? Baka naman balak mo din bumili ng bagong HU ano? hehehe Hinay-hinay lang paps ang bili!..pede naman saka ka na bumili ng bagong HU e..gagana din yan Factory HU ng honda city mo...Basta ang technique dyan pag bitin ka sa budget eh paisa-isa lang ang bili muna at alamin mo uunahin mong bilhin. Mas maganda nga iyon kasi by stages mo nararamdaman na paganda ng paganda ang sounds ng oto...Ganun ako dati eh hihihi

Important advise lang lalo na pag nagsisimula ka pa lang e wag na wag ka muna makikinig sa sound setup ng iba at iko-compare mo yung sa iyo...kung ayaw mong mabaliw sa iinggit..at mapagastos ka ng ala sa panahon..pati pamalengke ni kumander e madisgrasya pa hihihi

Eto unahin mo bilhin..Mas ok eh invest ka na ng isang magandang separates or seps na 6.5 ang size for your front speakers para ma-attain mo yung sinasabi kong sound reproduction (Wag ka bibili ng smaller size than 6.5 kasi di mashado ka magagandahan sa tunog at medyo bitin).Try mo hanapin and bilhin yung mga sina-suggest kong brand and models...budget SQ seps na yan na sulit ang tunog na high-end pa ang mga brand names (pero there are other lesser priced brands of seps like the Targa and Ryan Audio pero para saken di kasingganda tumunog mga yun e) Tapos dun mo pakabit sa side ng pinto ang midwoofers ng seps mo. Don't worry di ka na kailangan magbutas pa. Alam ko dyan sa Honda City eh may existing na speaker provision yan dun sa loob ng pinto kaya dun mo lang sya pakabit sa loob nun (pag ganyan ang pinagawa mo eh itago mo na lang muna yung speaker grilles nung seps mo for safekeeping). Swak na swak ang 6.5 seps size mo dun..Yung tweets eh sa magkabilang dulo naman ng dashboard mo. Etong seps na minention ko kahit ala ka pang AMP eh gagana yan kahit HU lang ang magpa-power sa kanila. Kaya pwede mo na sila unahin para marinig mo agad ang malaking difference ng ganda ng tunog sa papalitan mo na stock speakers mo sa HOnda...Again!!! wag ka muna makikinig sa ibang oto at ikukumpara mo yung sa yo...pigilin mo muna at namnamin ang sa iyo.

Then pag may budget ka na uli e buy a 4 channel amp..try mo sundin yung Powerbass model na sinabi ko...Baket 4 channel? para in preparation na pag may budget ka na uli at bibili ka na ng SUBWOOFER. BTW, di ko na-mention yung JBL at Sound Magus 4channel amps..mas mura din yun if you like...pero para saken more for an SPL application lang mga yun eh rather than SQ.... meron pa mas mura sa mga yun..yung mga generic V12 at Fenton amps...pero lalo di maganda tumunog mga yun...di porket malakas tumunog eh automatic na maganda na tumunog din.. again para saken lang ha (para dun sa gustong mag-react hihihi)

Pag may budget ka na uli eh saka mo na isunod yung Sub at yung box niya..haaay pag natapos mo na yan eh baka ilang oras ka muna magbabad sa garahe mo para lang makinig sa car audio setup mo hihihi

Di pa tapos yan ha? pag medyo sawa ka na eh this is the time to invest for a good HU...on top of the minimum 3 RCA Preouts eh yung HU dapat bilhin mo eh yung maraming features for sound tuning and tweaking..Go Alpine ahihihi sobrang biased ko!! Tagal ko din kasing Pioneer user eh! Until I saw the light ahihihi

Now pede ka na makinig sa sound system ng iba! Pero I'm warning you lalo na pag mas maganda tumunog sa kanila eh baka mabaliw ka sa inggit at mag-upgrade ka na ng sound system mo! Alang KATAPUSAN yang sounds na yan binabalaan kita! Kasi nabiktima ako nyan! Nagsimula ako sa Pioneer HU tapos full JBL setup (seps, rear, sub, amp) Haaay naku nakailang palit ako!!! Ayoko na makinig sa iba..at siguradong kahit ano upgrade mo eh there will be another one mas maganda sa setup mo! Yan ang dillema sa SQ setup! As in magastos!!! Sobra!! ahihihi

San ba location mo paps?..para may mairekomenda ako sa yo na honest, matino at magaling na audio shop and installer..yung bang presyong kaibigan pero pulido ang gawa...tapos tuturuan ka pa ng tips din...madami kasi dyan trabahong negosyo ang gawa eh! Yung bang paspasan lalo na madami nakapilang costumer tapos nagsa-suffer ang quality tuloy!

[onapaolo35]

sorry for the late reply medyo busy sa school hahaha, brad ang haba ng pinost mo ah ) pero okay yun mga tips na binigay mo hehe, salamat sobran susundin ko yun payo mo, onga pala sa may muntinlupa sucat ako nakatira

[Kawawang Koboy]

sorry for the late reply medyo busy sa school hahaha, brad ang haba ng pinost mo ah ) pero okay yun mga tips na binigay mo hehe, salamat sobran susundin ko yun payo mo, onga pala sa may muntinlupa sucat ako nakatira

Naku sori paps ala akong kakilala nagse-setup sa vincinty niyo dyan eh..Taga Las Piñas at QC ang pinapagawan ko eh..

Pero eto mga alam ko reputable shops na malapit sa yo...ala pa ako experience sa kanila pero you can check them out if you like:

1. Blueprint: Seacom Compound, JG Sanvictores Road, Sucat, Paranaque (Tel # 2155904 & 2154463)

2. CARSHACK
(Car Accessories, Car Tint, Car Audio, Searcover, Alarms, Bullbars... atbp.)
Sucat Parañaque (right after SM Sucat same side)
Jelmon Calacday
(02) 820.7802
(0920) 911.4061

3. Audiosplinter:

Pacita Ave, Pacita Complex 1, San Pedro Laguna
Smart: 09391831631
Globe: 09266897415
YM: jawskal1

[Battlestar]

Koboy - Is it okay dito na rin ako magtanong or should I create my own thread? Thanks pala sa reply mo saken sa kabila.

[Kawawang Koboy]

Koboy - Is it okay dito na rin ako magtanong or should I create my own thread? Thanks pala sa reply mo saken sa kabila.

Di ako ang TS dito e..pero ok lang naman siguro kay papi onapaolo yun...basta wag lang mashadong OT

[Kawawang Koboy]

Pero remind ko lang sa yo papi...di ako audio guru ha? I'm just talkin' based on my experience as a customer...at konting pagre-research na din...baka dumugo ilong ko sa tanong mo ha? hihihi

[Battlestar]

Koboy - No worries sir di rin ako Audiophile, just want a decent sound on my car.

To start with, I have Ford Escape SUV. It has 4 speakers, both pair on front and rear doors and a pair of tweeter on the dashboard. I want to upgrade on separates, I heard Cadence ZRS is a good midrange setup and it comes with tweeters too. Questions are:

1.) What decent Amp should I use on mentioned seps? It should also accommodate a midrange SubWoof and good HU for future upgrades.


2.) If seps are already installed, those 2 speakers on the rear door will deactivate?

I think that's all for now. And yes tama ka, I should not listen or audition to other car sound system. I'm also a PC Enthusiast and I know what the upgrade itch means

Thanks,
Battlestar

[Kawawang Koboy]

Koboy - No worries sir di rin ako Audiophile, just want a decent sound on my car.

To start with, I have Ford Escape SUV. It has 4 speakers, both pair on front and rear doors and a pair of tweeter on the dashboard. I want to upgrade on separates, I heard Cadence ZRS is a good midrange setup and it comes with tweeters too. Questions are:

1.) What decent Amp should I use on mentioned seps? It should also accommodate a midrange SubWoof and good HU for future upgrades.


2.) If seps are already installed, those 2 speakers on the rear door will deactivate?

I think that's all for now. And yes tama ka, I should not listen or audition to other car sound system. I'm also a PC Enthusiast and I know what the upgrade itch means

Thanks,
Battlestar

Cadence...that's a pretty fine set of seps for your car, paps! Just choose the 6.5" two-way seps para alang masyadong modifications at swak dun sa space provided sa front doors ng iyong Ford Escape.

First thing first paps..up to how much do you intend to spend for your amp before I recommend one? (which I also believe a 4 channel amp is ideal for you since you're just starting)

Next.. here are the possible audio setups you can choose from.. First, are you going into SPL? the type of audio setup you hear occassionaly in the street where the subwoofer sound goes super gapang and thump-thump-thump in the outside hahaha Or do you intend to go into SQ -Sound Quality (just like I did)..as what I have explained to papi onapaola in my previous posts? Or L&C -Loud & Clear? meaning a mixture of both worlds?
By the way, any of these setups will require subwoofer installation...ang alam ko medyo konti lang space sa likod ng Escape..just not sure kung may space para mag-install ng sub box sa ilalim ng passenger seats sa likod to accommodate an 8-inch or 10-inch sub (para di sya kumain ng space sa likod)....remember habang lumalaki ang size ng sub eh malaki rin ang requirement nya sa box.

Please take note also that you have to replace your existing "front" speakers in case you already have your Cadence seps. Meaning, the side speakers will be replaced by the Cadence Mids and so with your tweeters which will be replaced by the Cadence tweets.

Assuming you got your 4-channel amp, I would advise that you maintain your rear side speakers for the meantime you haven't decided yet what type of audio setup (SQ, SPL or L&C) you intend to have in your car....and have the 4-channel amp power both your seps and your rear speakers...medyo pakinggan mo muna lets say for a week...who nows baka ma-solved ka na sa tunog at ayaw mo na i-get rid yung rear speaks mo e di menos gastos ka pa...malaki rin kasi ang magiging difference sa sound experience mo once na na-install na yang seps at 4 channel amp mo...

Now pag sa tingin mo gusto mo pang mag-upgrade pero you cannot afford to allot an extra space for your sub..e you can still opt in changing your rear stock speakers na lang with a decent set of coaxials (or even another seps) of the same size...ang pagkakaalam ko 6.5 inch din ang size ng mga yan sa likod.

Pero kung marami kang moolah e meron dyan magagaling na installers na alam na diskartehan ang Ford Escape to conserve the space requirements for your sub in case you need one.. They can also do woodworks and leatherworks for you para super ganda ang audio setup mo paps.

HTH

[Battlestar]

Hi bro,

Thanks for the reply. I'm a big fan of Alternative and RnB type of genre. What Suitable to my taste? SPL or L&C?

Budget for Seps and Amp siguro 20-25k?

[reactor]

sir, since muntinlupa ka naman, you may tryto go to KID AUDIO in binan laguna malapit lang sa pavilion mall sa unahan ng perpetual help hospital kung galing ka pacita complex or carmona exit. kumpleto set up dun at kilala yun sa sound set up

[El batangueno]

[quote=Kawawang Koboy;1555786]Naku sori paps ala akong kakilala nagse-setup sa vincinty niyo dyan eh..Taga Las Piñas at QC ang pinapagawan ko eh..

Pero eto mga alam ko reputable shops na malapit sa yo...ala pa ako experience sa kanila pero you can check them out if you like:

1. Blueprint: Seacom Compound, JG Sanvictores Road, Sucat, Paranaque (Tel # 2155904 & 2154463)

2. CARSHACK
(Car Accessories, Car Tint, Car Audio, Searcover, Alarms, Bullbars... atbp.)
Sucat Parañaque (right after SM Sucat same side)
Jelmon Calacday
(02) 820.7802
(0920) 911.4061

3. Audiosplinter:

Pacita Ave, Pacita Complex 1, San Pedro Laguna
Smart: 09391831631
Globe: 09266897415

Sir, based on your post i can say you have a broad knowledge about sound set up. would you mind if i ask you where can I bring my xwind for SQL/L&C set up. My budget is 25k or can add a bit.hehehe!

Newbie here, appreciate to delete this post if this is out of the topic.TIA

[bongliza]

Naku sori paps ala akong kakilala nagse-setup sa vincinty niyo dyan eh..Taga Las Piñas at QC ang pinapagawan ko eh..

Pero eto mga alam ko reputable shops na malapit sa yo...ala pa ako experience sa kanila pero you can check them out if you like:

1. Blueprint: Seacom Compound, JG Sanvictores Road, Sucat, Paranaque (Tel # 2155904 & 2154463)

2. CARSHACK
(Car Accessories, Car Tint, Car Audio, Searcover, Alarms, Bullbars... atbp.)
Sucat Parañaque (right after SM Sucat same side)
Jelmon Calacday
(02) 820.7802
(0920) 911.4061

3. Audiosplinter:

Pacita Ave, Pacita Complex 1, San Pedro Laguna
Smart: 09391831631
Globe: 09266897415
YM: jawskal1

sir koboy, sino po ang kakilala niyo sa Audiosplinter? gusto ko kasi pa set-up yung sasakyan ko in dahan-dahan mode, ala kasi malaking moolah.
- unang dahan dahan - to replace my front speakers to be powered by 4ch amp
- pangalawang dahan dahan - to replace my HU
- pangatlong dahan dahan - to replace my 2nd row speakers
- pang apat na dahan dahan - 10" sub (optional)
low budget lang po ako. my only direction is to have a better sound than the stock. Leaning toward SQ/LnC.

please recommend brands on my set-up. Malaming tsalamat po sir koboy...

[jnh01]

sir koboy, will below system be a good basic SQ set-up?
Amp: Powerbass ASA600.4
Seps: Firland EV602 (then later move to rear seat doors when add'l budget is raised for a Cadence ZRS-6K)
Sub: 1pc Powerbass PS10 (will install together with Cadence ZRS-6K)

i plan to retain my JVC KD-BT22 unit. i estimate all to be within the range of 20k. will this work sir koboy? appreciate your inputs.

thanks in advance.