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    Gud day to all guys! Newbie here. Ask ko lang po expert advice nyo kung ano pong subs ang bubusog sa subs ko JBL GT5-12 ho. Ano po kaya ang amp bagay dito? Kaya na po ba ito ng Ryan Audio Q1200.1 (worth 6500 pesos sa blade-robinsons) or ung JBL CS60.4 (4k sa banawe)? Ang totoo po nyan maramipa ako choices MRV F805 4800w, MRV 910 4000w o MRV 1507, ito po lahat sa raon available. Im not an expert when it comes to amp-sub compatibility kaya im asking for your help po. Suggestions, comments, opinions are welcome po.


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    kahit yung 1507 pwede yun gagapang na yun

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    Dumaan na ho kasi ako sa mga MRV's e problema sa kanila madali sila uminit, over rated at di kaya palabasin juice ng subs ko e. Boss ano naman ho feedbacks nyo sa Ryan Audio Q1200.1 amp? Im also choosing between the former and JBL GTO 3501 e.

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    IMO Sir aim mo sir yong amp masmataas ang power rating kay sa sub..

    pagmataas ang rating...
    1) bosog na bosog ang sub

    2) hindi mangangamoy or masusunog ang coil..(dependi din ito sa port tuning mo dahil pagmataas ang tuning frequency ng enclosure mo tapos nagpapatugtug ka below the tuning frequency mahihirapan ang sub mo din)

    3) run a good quality cable..huwag yong maliit dahil possibility ang power ng amps doon mapupunta lang sa wiring mo..(resistance)

    4) power supply importante..dahil kahit gaano kaganda ng amp or laki pero wlang curyente ibibigay bababaa po ang power rating ng amps mo sir..dito din nasusunog ang Sub mo...(so hindi mabobosog ang sub mo sir...LOL)

    5)Huwag ang mga generic amps (it is your choice..LOL..)

    6) below is a GT4 10" 250 RMS 1.75cub/ft tuned to 32hz..powered by a 750rms amps..good box design ang importante sir..pagwla sa tuno ang box mo sir hindi po bosog pakinggan ang sytem mo sir..

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    may fan naman yun diba? yung lang kasi gamit ng friend ko sa gt5 niya gumagapang naman ngaun naka baric na siya 2 amps gamit niya..
    sir try mo ung solid audio

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    finally after visiting shops in banawe and raon, i came down to only 3 choices, pls guys help me to decide what to get. budget is not an issue here anymore. mrv's are excluded. tnx.

    1.jbl 7001
    2.ryan audio Q1200.1
    3.jbl 1004

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    go for ryan audio.. ask mo yung warranty's minsan kasi fake yung jbl's dyan

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    btw, hindi ho pla jbl 1004, its jbl 14001 ho pla.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeMe4LiFe View Post
    btw, hindi ho pla jbl 1004, its jbl 14001 ho pla.
    Hi sir..go with the GTO 1400.1 I have the GTO 1201.1 running 4 years now and still kicking hard..JBL's amps are reliable as long as you just follow the minimum load..and it is pushing a 15" KICKER COMP VX..(by the way sir magkano ang 1400.1?)



    and used to pushed these 2x 12 L5 kickers (JBL Gto 1201.1)

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    hey bro nice setup you got there! anyway jbl 14001 in l.a. car accessories worth around 16k, in raon may 14k at 13k. btw, i will be driving a gt5-15, d kaya masunog ito pag ginamitan ko ng 14001?

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    sir consider mo din sound magus c160

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    Tnx for the suggestion lucasxander. sound magus c160 costs around 9k at l.a. car accessories. but i think ill go straight with jbl. Anyway im already upgrading my old sound setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeMe4LiFe View Post
    hey bro nice setup you got there! anyway jbl 14001 in l.a. car accessories worth around 16k, in raon may 14k at 13k. btw, i will be driving a gt5-15, d kaya masunog ito pag ginamitan ko ng 14001?
    Sa last post ko (sa taas) may 10" ako na GT4 240rms lang ang nagdrive noon ay 750RMS..

    "I will always use a Higher RMS amps. (higher than speakers ratings) the higher- the cleaner signal will go to your speakers..dahil low rating amps masmadaling magpeak ang system mo..at hindi mo malalaman na overdriven mo na pala ang ampli..dito nasusunog ang mga speakers dahil bad signal na ang binibigay..IMO higher rating would be better.

    Regarding about your sub..it is how you do design your enclosure kung maganda ba bumayo..no matter how cheap is the sub put them in a properly design enclosure will always sound clean" (qouted from my previous post).

    I dont believe na naoverpower yong subs dahil mataas ang rating ng amp kay sa sub..meron namang Volume at Gain..masmaganda pa ito dahil atleast malalaman mo talaga your systems limit..GOOD LUCK SIR!

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    BTW bro, may jbl 1201 pa ba nowadays?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeMe4LiFe View Post
    BTW bro, may jbl 1201 pa ba nowadays?
    Im not really sure kung meron ka pang makkita na brandnew..dahil itong sa akin pinapaorder ko sa US noong unang lumabas ito(4 years ago)..dahil wala akong nakita dito sa atin..meron man pero secondhand...umabot pa nga ako ng mahigit 20k dati..Kung yong 1400.1 ay 16k lang mura na yan..(seguraduhin mo lang na hindi replica..LOL) dahil sa mga JBL products na bibili ko meron silang pinapadala na "product registration sheet" or online din yata yon..(forgot matagal na kasi)..

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    nakakatakot kasi bumili sa raon e. ok nga yung presyo nila pero you dont really know kung replica ba, counterfeited o imitation yung jbl nila. pero baka kaya siguro binibigay nila ng 13k-14k ang 14001 e dahil nga sa business competiton. mapakanan, kaliwa o harap e halos mga electronic shops din. kaya gusto rin nila makabenta kaya binibig ng mura. btw, you got two amps, hindi ba hirap alternator ng oto mo o yung baterya mo? btw wats your ride?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeMe4LiFe View Post
    nakakatakot kasi bumili sa raon e. ok nga yung presyo nila pero you dont really know kung replica ba, counterfeited o imitation yung jbl nila. pero baka kaya siguro binibigay nila ng 13k-14k ang 14001 e dahil nga sa business competiton. mapakanan, kaliwa o harap e halos mga electronic shops din. kaya gusto rin nila makabenta kaya binibig ng mura. btw, you got two amps, hindi ba hirap alternator ng oto mo o yung baterya mo? btw wats your ride?
    Yan ang hindi ko alam sir..kung saan nangaling ang mga products nila kahit esearch mo yang 1400.1 Jbl sa US na site:

    http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...+GTO14001.html

    aabot sa 18K mahigit..but hopefully may ibang paraan sila kung bakit mura ang sa atin dito (hindi pa kasama ang Tax + freight nyan)..kahit ako natetempted ako bumili kung ganyan ka mura..

    Anyways sir, yong ride ko po ay Hyundai HatchBack (EXCEL) ang alternator po ang unang bumigay..talagang expected ko na ang alternator darating ang panahon na masisira (malaking strain sa alt if you have large set-up)..within a year lang po nasira talaga..nagupgrade na po ako ng alternator (forgot sa Starex or sa ibang model ng hyundai yata itong nakuha ko) and added 3 more batteries after sa upgrade..dahil hindi mo po ma enjoy ang set-up mo sir pagkulang sa kuryente sayang lang po if you dont pay attention sa charging sytem mo..lalo na ako mahilig magbukas ng pinto at sa labas makikinig..

    hindi aabot ng 1500 rms ang JBL mo sir pagbaba ang voltage mo or paghindi kaya ng alterantor ang demand ng system mo..pagnaghihingalo na.. bawat hataw ng bass magtetrip-off yan tapos balik naman within few seconds..(bad trip din dahil sa iba ka na lang makikinig..LOL)..

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    3 batteries? andami nman nun. san mo nilagay yung dalawa?
    so hindi ko pa pla mapapakinabangan for the mean time yung 14001 at yung GT-5 ko until mag upgrade ako ng alternator? stock alternator-corolla xl ang ride ko e.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeMe4LiFe View Post
    nakakatakot kasi bumili sa raon e. ok nga yung presyo nila pero you dont really know kung replica ba, counterfeited o imitation yung jbl nila. pero baka kaya siguro binibigay nila ng 13k-14k ang 14001 e dahil nga sa business competiton. mapakanan, kaliwa o harap e halos mga electronic shops din. kaya gusto rin nila makabenta kaya binibig ng mura. btw, you got two amps, hindi ba hirap alternator ng oto mo o yung baterya mo? btw wats your ride?
    True, may replicas and counterfeits sa Raon - pero bihira na po ito mga chief. Besides, a lot of shops there would prefer to sell Targas and Konzerts and other local speakers bearing their local brand rather than rebadge it with foreign brands given na plenty of electricians, videoke installers, and other shops there prefer local ones more than foreign (given that most are cheaper than the foreign ones PLUS sound quality are at par and at times better even than more known and common brands).

    If you're afraid that you'll get replicas, counterfeit, or imitation JBL products (and other products for that matter), you can visit to MOSES AARON ELECTRONICS or PAUL VINCENT ELECTRONICS (iisa lang may ari pero mas mura at mas gusto ko yung salesman ng MOSES AARON personally), I'm pretty confident na legit yung products nila because nung humingi akong support sa JBL sub ko online before at hiningi yung serial, valid siya.

    As per the reason as to why electronics are significantly cheaper in RAON: here's all I can say:

    1. Mura ang renta ng pwesto.
    2. Malapit sa suppliers (the port is just around the corner)
    3. Yung mga suppliers nila by bulk ang ordering, hence cheaper ang benta
    4. Some (not sure on this one) are tax-exempt
    5. Mura bayad sa tao.
    6. Yung mga ibang stores sa mall and auto shops sa Evangelista, Banawe, etc., dito rin binibili yung mga produkto (hence kaya mas mahal sa iba is primarily because of the fact na may patong na)
    7. EDIT (DAGDAG): Gaya nga ng sabi, sa iba rin kasi yun nga, replica lang yung product.

    These applies not only to electronics, pero sa labor rin (pagpapawiring, repair ng appliance, etc). Bagsakan po kasi talaga, kumbaga parang Divisoria.

    Based on experience, and I think my profile name would suggest so.
    Last edited by batang_raon14; July 13th, 2009 at 10:04 AM.

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    Hey bro, thanks for the enlightening statements. btw saan ba matatagpuan ung Moses Electronics at Paul Vincent electronics? pa specify naman ng location so i can visit there shop.

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