audio set-up for beginners [continued]

[larry_al21]

thank you sir!

[barurut]

Wow! appreciate your response sir! Very detailed and educational for everybody else! I totally agree with your post.

I initially planned on getting the Alpine ICS-X8 (or the Pioneer x8550 - the new one is 8650 that can play flac!) but thought to wait it out and just get the new one when it comes out. Will not get the processor though and hopefully the audiophile 2-din will be enough for the EQ / tuning.

Currently, the tonality and fidelity of sound is very good. no distortion at med-high volumes. subwoofer provides the low frequency missing.

Will contemplate on the other points you raised. Thank you very much and will provide you guys an update in the near future!

x8550 has very limited tuning capabilities sadly bought one here. no bandpass so it cant do proper filtering ng mid bass. Go for alpines. or if you like the features of pioneer get a processor.

[acgq]

Sa mga gurus medyo naguluhan ako sa wiring. Ito system ko kicker cvr8 and punch 301s. Paano ba wiring gagawin ko sa dvc na cvr8? Puede kaya iparallel ko tapos bridge sa amp or 1st voice coil connect sa left ch ng amp then 2nd vc connect to right channel ng amp to make it stereo or mag series ako then bridge sa amp. Alin kaya ang maganda dito? Tia

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[barurut]

Sa mga gurus medyo naguluhan ako sa wiring. Ito system ko kicker cvr8 and punch 301s. Paano ba wiring gagawin ko sa dvc na cvr8? Puede kaya iparallel ko tapos bridge sa amp or 1st voice coil connect sa left ch ng amp then 2nd vc connect to right channel ng amp to make it stereo or mag series ako then bridge sa amp. Alin kaya ang maganda dito? Tia

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Not a guru here pero this might help.
Since ur amp is rate as 75 x 2 * 4ohms or 300 watts x 1 *4ohms,
best to wire your dvc sub to meet a 4ohm load (assuming its a dual 2ohm) by wiring it in series
you can do so by getting a wire to connect the + and - and then hooking the remaining + and - negative terminals to your amp's corresponding terminal in bridge mode.

Dual Voice Coil Wiring Options | KICKER

[acgq]

Not a guru here pero this might help.
Since ur amp is rate as 75 x 2 * 4ohms or 300 watts x 1 *4ohms,
best to wire your dvc sub to meet a 4ohm load (assuming its a dual 2ohm) by wiring it in series
you can do so by getting a wire to connect the + and - and then hooking the remaining + and - negative terminals to your amp's corresponding terminal in bridge mode.

Dual Voice Coil Wiring Options | KICKER

Sir barurut pano kung dual 4 ohms. Yun kasi nakalagay sa likod ng speaker. Ty

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[jhnkvn]

Sir barurut pano kung dual 4 ohms. Yun kasi nakalagay sa likod ng speaker. Ty

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Then you get either a 2-ohm load or an 8-ohm load.

[wsa 400]

Just like to get advice if the performance of the JBL MS-8 will be at par with the Alpine PXA-H800. Will hook it up to a montero head unit with amps for the speakers and sub.

Also, are there ships where you can buy just speaker crossovers. The left front Jbl speaker on my other car has gave out.

TIA

[jhnkvn]

Just like to get advice if the performance of the JBL MS-8 will be at par with the Alpine PXA-H800. Will hook it up to a montero head unit with amps for the speakers and sub.

Also, are there ships where you can buy just speaker crossovers. The left front Jbl speaker on my other car has gave out.

TIA

Although if you look at them as a processor-only, nasa same category sila. However... they are marketed differently and this means na apples to oranges comparison mo dito.

The MS8's promise is a 5-minute auto-tune that's very intelligent while the H800 has all the features you need but you need to know how to tune it.

What's better depends on how good are you in tuning.

[acgq]

Hello ulit mga bossing. May problem ako. Bigla na lang namamatay headunit kasama amp. Mahina o malakas sounds namamatay pa rin. Natry ko na ioff yung power ng amp. Pag headunit alone lang, di naman namamatay. Ano kaya ang may sira? Amp or yung speaker? Pag na on ko ulit ok naman lahat tapos bigla uli nag shut off. Nagrereset ung headunit. Ito system ko
Pioneer Deh1450ub
Stock front speakers
Rf punch 301s
Kicker cvr8 dual 4 ohms

Tia

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[wezz_zzew]

Probably a short circuit issue on your power amp. Try checking its fuse if still intact.


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[acgq]

Sir intact naman fuse and fuse ng headunit. Iniisip ko if yung speaker ang may problem. Possible kaya mag cause ng ganun na problem?

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[markygy]

Hello ulit mga bossing. May problem ako. Bigla na lang namamatay headunit kasama amp. Mahina o malakas sounds namamatay pa rin. Natry ko na ioff yung power ng amp. Pag headunit alone lang, di naman namamatay. Ano kaya ang may sira? Amp or yung speaker? Pag na on ko ulit ok naman lahat tapos bigla uli nag shut off. Nagrereset ung headunit. Ito system ko
Pioneer Deh1450ub
Stock front speakers
Rf punch 301s
Kicker cvr8 dual 4 ohms

Tia

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Paano mo na ioff ang power nang amplifier? Tinanggal mo ang positive wire nang amplifier?
Anyway, if your HU is re-setting and suddenly turns off then it's the HU that has a problem.

Who installed your gears?

[acgq]

Paano mo na ioff ang power nang amplifier? Tinanggal mo ang positive wire nang amplifier?
Anyway, if your HU is re-setting and suddenly turns off then it's the HU that has a problem.

Who installed your gears?

Tinangal ko yung fuse then in off ko sa setting ng headunit. Nagpawiring ako along banawe. To update lang nakita ko na culprit. Nagtrace ako ng mga wires to check polarity and kung tama pinagkabitan at ayun may mali sa polarity ng subwoofer to amplifier. So far di siya namamatay.

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[jhnkvn]

Tinangal ko yung fuse then in off ko sa setting ng headunit. Nagpawiring ako along banawe. To update lang nakita ko na culprit. Nagtrace ako ng mga wires to check polarity and kung tama pinagkabitan at ayun may mali sa polarity ng subwoofer to amplifier. So far di siya namamatay.

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Awkward. Polarity shouldn't be the culprit for your problem.

But if it works for you then go enjoy nalang. No use trying to think about it.

[markygy]

Awkward. Polarity shouldn't be the culprit for your problem.

But if it works for you then go enjoy nalang. No use trying to think about it.

Agree, that's kinda weird.

At least na solve na ang problem and you can start enjoying your sounds!

Do let us know kung bumalik ang problem, hopefully hindi na

[ozcity]

my problem is tuning my system...parang hindi ako satisfied sa sq..or i missing something?
heres my setup

hu x4650 - set to 80hz fronts
amp1 focal 4.75 le bridged 2x200w rms in full range, gain 40%
amp 2 focal 1.800 on 80hz 600rms x1 *2ohms

sub focal 33v2 400w *2ohms

fronts morel tempo 110w rms

front doors fully dynamat

im satisfied sa sub output it gives me a nice solid bass on sealed box

problema ko parang may kulang sa fronts ko..

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[jhnkvn]

Easy. You aren't tuning it well.

Your head unit isn't capable and you don't have much channels to take advantage of it.
And from my opinion, you splurged too much on the subwoofer.

[ozcity]

^ so i need a processor?..ms8?.some people use the same sub amp combi just like my one ..i know bitin yung 33v2..but sa pandinig ko satisfied na ako..i just lower the amp gain...



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[Buging_King]

Question guys. Sinu-sino po naka-underseat or bazooka type na active subwoofer dito? I was planning to buy one, pero i need your input kung alin sa dalawa ang maganda. Gusto ko lang naman po na may konting BASS yung mga songs ko from 2650ui. TY sa mga sasagot po.

Requirements ko po eh, may remote to control yung bass response niya mapa, unerseat or sa trunk.

[jhnkvn]

Pardon on my last post. I was kinda tired when I made that and my thoughts were jumbled haha.. looking at it right now makes me sad since naooffend ako sa sarili kong post here's a more extensive reply.

Actually mahirap magpost oz.. since I'm not too sure on what you're aiming for nor what are your standards.

First thing I need to clarify is your standards. Are you trying to achieve the true "SQ" that has good tonality, staging, and imaging? Have you heard of one?

If not, I suggest you try finding one to hear. It will turn your idea of great sound quality around. You already have the gears for it so you just to re-wire some stuff, throw in an external processor and find a person to tune it.

Second is I want to know who your installer is because it gives me an idea on whether how experienced the installer is or not if I will try to recommend processors.

But let's try to solve your current problem muna.

By "kulang yun fronts", that will mean one thing: The front isn't loud enough.

The easiest way on how to solve this is to dial your subwoofer down because your front is being overpowered by your subwoofer. You can do this via your head unit (subwoofer level) or via your amplifier (gain control).

You might want to also experiment lowering the crossover for the mono amplifier. Setting it to something like 63hz will lessen your subwoofer's reach into the midbass and should give you a more prominent midbass which in turn enhances the front stage.

Your subwoofer performance is largely dictated by your box rather than the power you throw it ;) Even when I juke it out heavily, I'm using less than 500W of power and my box isn't that big either (1.1cu.ft volume). I know of this due to my fuse which is at 40A (40x12 = 480W).

Hell, I usually tell people that if you're geared towards "SQ", you won't really eat more than 400W unless you built yourself one heck of an inefficient enclosure.

For the processor choices, since you're just doing a 2-way setup.. something like the Mosconi 4to6 and the Audison BitTen will suffice which is at the 16,000php price range. No need to go into the 30 grand price range ;)

If you plan on going for the processors, ask your installer first which processor is he comfortable in using. I will also be recommending a manual tuning processor and the MS8 because... well, it's promise of auto-tuning is incredible.. but it's not something I will recommend for people looking for a plug-and-play solution. It kinda needs some "work" for it to sound great.