audio set-up for beginners [continued]

[ajayesjayar]

good afternoon guys.
tanong ko lang sana kung open parin ang tsikot.com store sa bicutan?
gusto ko kasi painstall ng sound deadener
thanks

[jhnkvn]

how about the car battery sir jhnkvn, would a stock 3sm battery powerful enough to support a basic install of tweeter + seps + sub and amp? when do we need to install an audio battery like those expensive ones like stinger and xspower brands? TIA

A battery simply prolongs the time you can play with the engine off. If your engine is running, your alternator is your source of power. The only time you'll tap into the battery for power when the engine is on is if a hard bass drop hits and your voltage goes down to battery 12V levels.

The difference between batteries such as Stinger with our everyday Motolite is that they're designed for different applications. The main difference is that Stingers are designed to be drained and recharged frequently. Do that to a Motolite and you'll severely cut the lifespan of your Motoline battery.

For what it's worth, I'm just using an Amaron battery if that'll give anybody peace of mind as to which battery should they get. My batteries don't last long though.. my last one just lasted 2 1/2 years. I kinda attributed this since they're being drained at times (especially on days when I want to crank my volume up). Ok na ako sa 2 1/2 years rather than paying double for Stinger battery that will last probably 1.5x longer.

[RC-V]

good afternoon guys.
tanong ko lang sana kung open parin ang tsikot.com store sa bicutan?
gusto ko kasi painstall ng sound deadener
thanks

i think sarado na , personally hindi ko pa nakikita pero from the forum wala na sila inaadverstise.

kung malapit ka sa Q.C. daan ka na lang sa banawe. duon ako nagpakabit butyl deadener.

[monty_GTV]

A battery simply prolongs the time you can play with the engine off. If your engine is running, your alternator is your source of power. The only time you'll tap into the battery for power when the engine is on is if a hard bass drop hits and your voltage goes down to battery 12V levels.

The difference between batteries such as Stinger with our everyday Motolite is that they're designed for different applications. The main difference is that Stingers are designed to be drained and recharged frequently. Do that to a Motolite and you'll severely cut the lifespan of your Motoline battery.

For what it's worth, I'm just using an Amaron battery if that'll give anybody peace of mind as to which battery should they get. My batteries don't last long though.. my last one just lasted 2 1/2 years. I kinda attributed this since they're being drained at times (especially on days when I want to crank my volume up). Ok na ako sa 2 1/2 years rather than paying double for Stinger battery that will last probably 1.5x longer.

thanks sir jhnkvn for the insight...

[X-salta]

If you haven't heard a "true" SQ setup and you can drop by Banawe whenever, feel free to contact me and I can arrange an audition for you. The thing with sound is that it's based on your standard expectations -- unless you hear something better, you won't know what it sounds like. Parang mga kotse lang yan.. unless you've experienced what a 0-60 in less than 4 seconds is, you haven't seen what real speed is like

Where and how po kayo pede ma meet sir? Paki pm naman po yung number nyo pa enlighten po ako about SQ setup, TIA po sir.



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[striker2413]

*sir jhnkvn

I would also like to hear your setup sir.

[jhnkvn]

Where and how po kayo pede ma meet sir? Paki pm naman po yung number nyo pa enlighten po ako about SQ setup, TIA po sir.

*sir jhnkvn

I would also like to hear your setup sir.

You'll both be receiving PMs

In any case, I usually tell people to meet me in Banawe since.. it's the car enthusiast mecca. I'm usually free on the evenings (7pm onwards) although I don't really mind making time during the day or noon.

Or if you can wait, you can always find me in Tsikot's EB (http://tsikot.com/forums/car-shows-a...ml#post2275246)

[X-salta]

You'll both be receiving PMs

In any case, I usually tell people to meet me in Banawe since.. it's the car enthusiast mecca. I'm usually free on the evenings (7pm onwards) although I don't really mind making time during the day or noon.

Thanks sir d'best ka :-)


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[striker2413]

sir jhnkvn

many thanks!

[labuyo73]

Had my audio set up by mickeys. JL audio c2-650 seps, infinity 6502ix coax for rear fill, RF JPS 1008 underseat sub, jbl gto 804 ampli plus deadeners on front doors. Went over my budget but couldn't be happier, parang lumulutang sounds sa loob ng sasakyan ko. Stuck in traffic? Nooooo problem : )

Thanks jhnkvn for bearing with a newbie :bowako

[monty_GTV]

inaccessible yung website ni mickey. ganda pa naman mag-refer ng specs at prices dun. i hope ma-restore nila ulit soon...

[jhnkvn]

inaccessible yung website ni mickey. ganda pa naman mag-refer ng specs at prices dun. i hope ma-restore nila ulit soon...

Yeah. According to Mickey under renovation daw

But if you do need to access the prices (which at times I do), simply access the Google cache version. Just add "cache:" before the URL. However, parang down na rin yun cache version

[jhnkvn]

Had my audio set up by mickeys. JL audio c2-650 seps, infinity 6502ix coax for rear fill, RF JPS 1008 underseat sub, jbl gto 804 ampli plus deadeners on front doors. Went over my budget but couldn't be happier, parang lumulutang sounds sa loob ng sasakyan ko. Stuck in traffic? Nooooo problem : )

Thanks jhnkvn for bearing with a newbie :bowako

No problem. We're all newbies once din naman Hope you enjoy your new ICE system!

[monty_GTV]

Yeah. According to Mickey under renovation daw

But if you do need to access the prices (which at times I do), simply access the Google cache version. Just add "cache:" before the URL. However, parang down na rin yun cache version

i see, good to hear if its under renovation. hope it will be available soon...thanks sir jhnkvn

[mikedp5]

Sir inputs bout these amps?

Hifonics Brutus BRX640.4
Precision Power S580.4
Precision Power BK800.4
Cadence FX2400.4

Thanks guys.

[jhnkvn]

Sir inputs bout these amps?

Hifonics Brutus BRX640.4
Precision Power S580.4
Precision Power BK800.4
Cadence FX2400.4

Thanks guys.

Either the PP BK or the Hifonics Brutus. Personally, I'll go for the Hifonics. They're a pretty niche amplifier manufacturer but I like them ;)

[mikedp5]

Guys, need ko lang ng amp na mga 4500-5000 range lang. If may suggestions na mas maganda dito sa pilipinas, please pasabi.
Kunin ko kasi from the states itong mga choices ko kasi mura.

Cadence Flash FXA2400-4
MB Quart OA800.4
Precision Power BK520.4

ito lang kasi mga $100 na parang maganda. if may suggestions kayo dito. I asked around kasi dito sa mga shops and for 4000 they're just offering mga "Q-amp" brands.

Cadence 2400 = 150 x 4 / 600w x 2 bridged (4ohm)
MB quart OA800.4 = 100 x 4 / 400w x 2 bridged (4ohm)
Precision Power Black Ice 520.4 = 95 x 4 / 260w x 2 bridged (4ohm)

Iniisip ko if pwede ba yun cadence kasi parang sobrang taas naman nung RMS niya, gamitin ko sana with JBL 609c na kukunin ko dito nalang pagpapakabit ako. wala naman ako makita na spec sheet nung cadence from their site kaya medyo hesitant ako. Pahelp lang sana. Need na kasi decision today kasi pabibili na ko para abot before christmas. Thanks guys.

[jhnkvn]

Precision Power Black Ice.

You won't see them in the Philippines... Sedona parin ata yun binebenta ng mga tao dito. Even then, PH prices are priced exorbitantly when the products come from the United States.

I don't like the Cadence because they publish peak numbers. I don't like the MB Quartz because they're marketing their topology as an "SQ" topology which there isn't.

The difference between 95W to 150W is simply 2 decibels. Stop placing too much emphasis on wattage. Place more emphasis on speaker efficiency -- driver sensitivity if you want something loud.

[mikedp5]

Precision Power Black Ice.

You won't see them in the Philippines... Sedona parin ata yun binebenta ng mga tao dito. Even then, PH prices are priced exorbitantly when the products come from the United States.

I don't like the Cadence because they publish peak numbers. I don't like the MB Quartz because they're marketing their topology as an "SQ" topology which there isn't.

The difference between 95W to 150W is simply 2 decibels. Stop placing too much emphasis on wattage. Place more emphasis on speaker efficiency -- driver sensitivity if you want something loud.

But un precision power puts out 260 w lang pag bridged. Enough ba to for subwoofer?

[jhnkvn]

But un precision power puts out 260 w lang pag bridged. Enough ba to for subwoofer?

Yes it is. Just make your subwoofer more efficient. A subwoofer's performance is way dependent on its enclosure more than anything else.

I can get a subwoofer, throw it in a ported 3cu.ft enclosure then feed it 300W to beat the exact same subwoofer but in a sealed 1cu.ft enclosure and feed it 1000W of power and still the 300W will be louder. Given this, it's best to simply optimize the design of an enclosure more than feeding it more power (which translates into lesser fuel efficiency btw)