audio set-up for beginners [continued]

[jhnkvn]

*zenervox

Yes. Somewhere lang yun fader settings sa HU.. konting kalikot lang

I think the correct term is that "fade" refers to front and back while "balance" refers to left and right. Di lang sure

*Jaggy

Okay lang yan. Most of us aren't fussy with HUs since the power can easily be compensated by an amplifier. Since you plan on powering it just using the HU, make sure that the HUs can support the RMS power of the speakers. Aside from that, I might recommend:

1. Ditch the rear speakers. You won't be needing good sound at the back if you're in front. Fade output to the front. If you're ferrying passengers and you don't want them to complain, just stock speakers would do fine.

2. Rather than going for a monoblock immediately, go for a 4-ch amplifier first. That way you can have some headroom just in case you plan on upgrading your speakers.

[El batangueno]

Mga Gurus, Ask ko lang po kung anG ZULEX and TECKLINE brand na speaker and amplifier ok lang compare sa TARGA?

TIA

[diorel]

*zenervox

Yes. Somewhere lang yun fader settings sa HU.. konting kalikot lang

I think the correct term is that "fade" refers to front and back while "balance" refers to left and right. Di lang sure

*Jaggy

Okay lang yan. Most of us aren't fussy with HUs since the power can easily be compensated by an amplifier. Since you plan on powering it just using the HU, make sure that the HUs can support the RMS power of the speakers. Aside from that, I might recommend:

1. Ditch the rear speakers. You won't be needing good sound at the back if you're in front. Fade output to the front. If you're ferrying passengers and you don't want them to complain, just stock speakers would do fine.

2. Rather than going for a monoblock immediately, go for a 4-ch amplifier first. That way you can have some headroom just in case you plan on upgrading your speakers.

sir, am also planning to upgrade my sounds. but first am gonna still use my HU Alpine 7523 (25w x 4) to power it while ipon mode muna for a good HU and an amp.
plan to get seps for my front first. Ilan watts ang ideal to get considering my plan to get an amp in the future. I mean, kahit mag-amp ako in the future eh kakayanin pa rin ng front seps ko?
I'm opting for a budget meal like Targa x625c 150w. would that be enough even with an amp in the future. and kaya kaya i-drive ito ng stock HU ko?
Planning to scout 4 a 4ch amp para makakay din ako ng sub sa likod then just put a coax for the rear fill. OK na rin ba yung targa coax na 150 watts sa likod? or wag na ko maglagay ng rear speakers after may subwoofer na ko?

[jhnkvn]

*El batangueno

Never heard of the brands. I'll stick with Targas.

*diorel

Your HU shouldn't have any problem running your Targa. A general rule of mine is that the real "need" for amplifiers starts at speakers costing 4000php and more. The 150W must be its peak wattage. Just look for its nominal RMS wattage. Impossible 150W nominal yan.. ede parang UP6 yun power nyan.. haha..

Save your cash and don't put speakers at the back. If you insist, move your old stocks there. I cannot stress the waste of money on spending cash on rear speakers if you spend 99% of your time at the front. It's like buying decent computer speakers and positioning them at the back rather than the front. It's an unneeded expense.

Since on a budget ka, I can probably guess na Targa din sub mo then V12 yun amp Classic budget car setup.

[danding]

malaki ba ang pagkakaiba ng output ng quality ng sound kung gagamit ng amplifier kesa sa wala kung normal lang yung volume? kasi SQ lang ang habol ko at hindi palakasan. gusto ko sana malaman para hindi sayang na bibili pa ako ng amplifier. thanks mga sir.

btw sa seps po pala ang tinutukoy ko kung mas maganda lagyan ng amps o hindi. hindi kalakasan o normal lang ang volume. sa tingin nyo kaya na rin maski wala amps?

[robot.sonic]

^ noticeable yung difference ng seps na amp powered sa HU powered. Mahina kasi yung wattage ng HU. Kung lalakasan mo volume, tataas din ang distortion.

Pero try mo muna na HU powered lang. Kung masaya ka naman, kahit di ka na mag amp. Pero mabibitin ka sa bass. Yung bass kasi kailangan ng medyo mabigat na power.

[danding]

ah ok sir. meron na akong gamit na amplified subwoofer. yung nbn. so far satisfied naman ako. ok na para sa needs ko. hehehe.

ok naman yung performance kaya lang gusto ko lang malaman kung mas gaganda pa pag nalagyan ng amps yung seps. thanks.

[robot.sonic]

Para sa superduper low frequency yung subwoofer sir. Yung seps din meron ding not-so-very-low frequency (bass). Kailangan din nyan ng konting power. Kaya naglalagay ng amp yung mga tao.

Pero kung masaya ka na sa setup mo, CONGRATULATIONS!!!:drunk:

[diorel]

*El batangueno

Never heard of the brands. I'll stick with Targas.

*diorel

Your HU shouldn't have any problem running your Targa. A general rule of mine is that the real "need" for amplifiers starts at speakers costing 4000php and more. The 150W must be its peak wattage. Just look for its nominal RMS wattage. Impossible 150W nominal yan.. ede parang UP6 yun power nyan.. haha..

Save your cash and don't put speakers at the back. If you insist, move your old stocks there. I cannot stress the waste of money on spending cash on rear speakers if you spend 99% of your time at the front. It's like buying decent computer speakers and positioning them at the back rather than the front. It's an unneeded expense.

Since on a budget ka, I can probably guess na Targa din sub mo then V12 yun amp Classic budget car setup.

salamat sa reply sir. ngayon ko lang nabasa eh. nakabili na ko ng targa x652c (150W peak siguro to). at ok naman tunog nya sa HU ko. Nakabili na rin ako ng 4CH amp ( V23 MRV-F805) kaya lang di ko pa nakakabit yung amp. (hanap pa installer eh). tapos meron ako dalawang 8-incher na subwoofers rated 300W/4-8 ohms enclosed in a ported box (bigay lang ng bayaw ko). Hindi kaya mahirapan yung amp dun sa seps ko at dalawang subwoofers ko? balak ko ch 1/2 sa front seps ko, tapos yung ch3 dun sa sub 1 and ch4 sa sub 2. okay po ba yun? or may mas maganda pang alternative. Naisip ko kasi pag ganito ginawa ko eh pag nag fade ako sa harap para sa front staging eh hihina naman yung base ko from the subwoofers, tama ba? ayoko naman magdagdag pa ng isa pang amp. Sana matulungan nyo po ako. TIA.

[tsikotshop]

salamat sa reply sir. ngayon ko lang nabasa eh. nakabili na ko ng targa x652c (150W peak siguro to). at ok naman tunog nya sa HU ko. Nakabili na rin ako ng 4CH amp ( V23 MRV-F805) kaya lang di ko pa nakakabit yung amp. (hanap pa installer eh). tapos meron ako dalawang 8-incher na subwoofers rated 300W/4-8 ohms enclosed in a ported box (bigay lang ng bayaw ko). Hindi kaya mahirapan yung amp dun sa seps ko at dalawang subwoofers ko? balak ko ch 1/2 sa front seps ko, tapos yung ch3 dun sa sub 1 and ch4 sa sub 2. okay po ba yun? or may mas maganda pang alternative. Naisip ko kasi pag ganito ginawa ko eh pag nag fade ako sa harap para sa front staging eh hihina naman yung base ko from the subwoofers, tama ba? ayoko naman magdagdag pa ng isa pang amp. Sana matulungan nyo po ako. TIA.

if you have 8" subwoofer, 300watts rms, 4ohm, its better to used yung isa lang, place it in a good tuned box, what you want to hear or what kind of music you mostly listen to, and you got it great, if you want to hear it perfect, just started on the right, install the separates in the front using mdf board and some deadining to hardened the mounting and separate the front wave to the back wave perfectly, and so, the mid bases are present, mount the tweeter 2feet away so the midrange is hear in between of these seps., for the coax, leave it to your head unit,
YOUR HEAD UNIT- assumed your head unit output is 2rca preeouts * 2volts(mostly front and rear or front and sub), used it both to drive your amp, then used your front output to your 1&2 channel of the amps to your seps and rear/sub to 3&4 of your amp to your sub, if your head unit is pioneer that has these type, you can select rear output as a subwoofer output, so you dont have any problem, even if you fade it to front, you dont lost the subs.
I have many install such that and work perfect until today, they upgraded it, that is usually, but you dont need to replace each set, that kind of set up is upgradable in the future if you like it,
Now, your looking for the one who install it for you, we are here to help you finding the right one and well trained in these line, just ask tsikotshop..