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    good day mga sirs,

    newbie lang ako but i read lot of reviews for a car set ups.

    i decided to go with this set up

    IDMAX 12" SUB running in Hifonics BXi 1606D
    Polk Audio MMC6500 for Sep
    Polk Audio MMC650 for Rear
    Both running in Hifonics ZXi6006

    My Question is: Is this a good set up? i'm looking for a good SQL. How much kaya ang aabutin including labor and boxes. any alternative na speakers na makakatipid ako. I'm thinking of going sa Mickeys.

    Thank you in advance for all your help guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOVEMBER View Post
    good day mga sirs,

    newbie lang ako but i read lot of reviews for a car set ups.

    i decided to go with this set up

    IDMAX 12" SUB running in Hifonics BXi 1606D
    Polk Audio MMC6500 for Sep
    Polk Audio MMC650 for Rear
    Both running in Hifonics ZXi6006

    My Question is: Is this a good set up? i'm looking for a good SQL. How much kaya ang aabutin including labor and boxes. any alternative na speakers na makakatipid ako. I'm thinking of going sa Mickeys.

    Thank you in advance for all your help guys.
    sir kung sa ok ......ok na ok na ok yan parang SPL na nga ang setup mo tingin ko pa lang sa subwoofer mo nka double magnet at DVC ba yan????
    high class pa amplifier mo ha kung di ako nagkakamali class D ang hifonics...

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    *heaven's rio

    thank you sa reply sir.

    ano ba ang double magnet at DVC? may pagkakaiba ba yun bosing kung hindi sya double magnet at DVC?

    meron ka bang ma susuggest na set up bosing to lower the price? medyo tingin ko mapapamahal ako dito eh. sana kung malolower natin sa 50-60K much better. siguro kahit sa amp na lang tayo magbago. any suggestion?

    thank you thank you.

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    its a good set up, pero if your going for SQL, add another sub kung kakayanin yung load.

    those are good brands, great sound, worth the money. 50-60K? i doubt kung kakasya yan. the quality of the sound is only as good as the installer. i suggest you to go for lower brands with a great installer. para busog na busog setup mo.

    try mickeys audio or kid audio. worth the money mga set up nila.

    avoid LA cars for setups, IMO their people just know how to make a box but not maximize the potential. the other thing is... grabe sila sumingil.

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    * sir archie123456789

    thanks sa info sir.

    i was thinking nga between the two supplier, mickeys and LA. nakita ko kasi sa web mga product nila. pero siguro nga kay mickeys na lang. marami na rin akong naririnig the good things about him. thank you sir.

    about adding another sub sir. i would like to do that pero baka hindi na kakayanin ng budget.

    anyways, thank you thank you sa tulong / info sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOVEMBER View Post
    *heaven's rio

    thank you sa reply sir.

    ano ba ang double magnet at DVC? may pagkakaiba ba yun bosing kung hindi sya double magnet at DVC?

    meron ka bang ma susuggest na set up bosing to lower the price? medyo tingin ko mapapamahal ako dito eh. sana kung malolower natin sa 50-60K much better. siguro kahit sa amp na lang tayo magbago. any suggestion?

    thank you thank you.
    sir....napaka bibo na ng budget mo na iyan hehehe..... kung ang budget mo na 50-60k talaga ang ipang sesetup mo,,, bakit hindi kana mag SPL setup,,, kasi kung tutuusin sa 20-25k makakapag setup kana ng SQL....

    ganito sir ang Double magnet




    ganito naman ang DVC-dual voice coil



    dalawa ang positive at dalawa ang negative
    pwede mo i-series o kaya i-parallel ang connection



    ganito naman ang DVC na naka triple magnet




    malaki ang pagkakaiba sir kung ang woofer mo ay hindi double magnet o kaya DVC
    mas powerful ang double magnet lalu na pag naka Dual Voice Coil pa

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    Quote Originally Posted by heaven rio's View Post
    sir....napaka bibo na ng budget mo na iyan hehehe..... kung ang budget mo na 50-60k talaga ang ipang sesetup mo,,, bakit hindi kana mag SPL setup,,, kasi kung tutuusin sa 20-25k makakapag setup kana ng SQL....
    again, not true. with the brands that the TS is planning on, that budget will not fit. polk audio and hifonics cost a lot of money. with the labor and wiring included, im assuming around 100k or more depending how extensive the wood works and fiberglass is going to be.

    SPL setup will be enough at 50k-60k. BUT SQL cost a lot more. it has the clarity and boom boom power. no a/d/s, lansar, etc can give the clarity of high end speakers.
    Last edited by archie123456789; October 6th, 2010 at 12:03 AM.

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    * heaven's rio

    sir parang tapos na ako sa SPL eh. tumatanda na ako kaya siguro graduate na ako sa ganung set ups. anyways, thank you sa pics. pag aralan ko ulit.

    *archie123456789

    sir, ang mahal naman nun. siguro kung sa boxes eh yung simple lang. kasi gusto ko sana yung natatanggal pa rin yung box at hindi naka fix sa likod. i need kasi minsan yung third seat ng sasakyan.

    *heaven's rio and archie

    go pa rin sana ako sa set up na SQL. pero d ko nakakayanin yung 100K+ mga sirs. any suggestion mga sir to lessen the 100K budget.

    thankyou. really appreciate your help.

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    with the 50k-60k budget for an SQL, it will be hard to fit if you are planning on a full blown audio SQL. siguro the best is to lessen the SQ para makapasok sa budget. lets not think of electronic crossover, 3 way seps, etc.

    IMO you can fit that budget sa full blown SQL if your willing to go down on brands (and i mean really go down) like ryan audio, etc.

    but i personally say, if you can afford higher quality brands, go for it.

    for me:
    memphis audio for the seps
    kahit pioneer na lang rear fill (powered by the HU)
    rockford fosgate amp to power both seps and subs
    JL audio or MTX for the subs (depending on your taste)
    minimal woodwork

    this is not a full SQL setup pero basic SQ with a little power on the subs. power hungry mga ito kaya put on a capacitor kahit 1 farad para mahabol yung bass.

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    If you want to lower the costs a little, try to find more affordable installers. While Mickey's is one of the best, they also charge accordingly.

    Ok naman experience ko sa Sun-X sa Auto Centro. They've won a couple of KAC competition setups. Magaling ang woodworks nila (not sure kung nandun pa yung Eric na magaling mag-woodworks -- iba siya kay Erick na may ari ha). Quite a number of VCP members have their Vios setup at Sun-X.

    You might be able to get away with less expensive equipment rin, but have some investment in sound proofing/insulation/deadening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOVEMBER View Post
    * heaven's rio

    sir parang tapos na ako sa SPL eh. tumatanda na ako kaya siguro graduate na ako sa ganung set ups. anyways, thank you sa pics. pag aralan ko ulit.

    *archie123456789

    sir, ang mahal naman nun. siguro kung sa boxes eh yung simple lang. kasi gusto ko sana yung natatanggal pa rin yung box at hindi naka fix sa likod. i need kasi minsan yung third seat ng sasakyan.

    *heaven's rio and archie

    go pa rin sana ako sa set up na SQL. pero d ko nakakayanin yung 100K+ mga sirs. any suggestion mga sir to lessen the 100K budget.

    thankyou. really appreciate your help.
    sir tanung ko lang diba SQL ang hanap mo????? dalawang klase kasi yan
    merong mga tao na SQL ang hanap na ibinabase nila sa quality ng tunog......at meron namang tao na ang hinahanap sa SQL ay yung quality ng equipment......

    tip ko lang sayo sir maraming eqipment na mumurahin at baranded na nakakapag produce ng sound quality......

    at kung ang hanap mo naman ay quality ng music at quality ng equipment na bibilihin mo..... mas mapapamahal ka talaga.....

    kung tutuusin sir mas mura ibudget ang SQL kesa sa SPL dahil madaling makuha ang sound quality kesa sa SPL na kailangan mo ng HIGH powerd amplifier na napaka mamahal....hifonics brutus is around 10k pataas SPL yan

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOVEMBER View Post
    good day mga sirs,

    newbie lang ako but i read lot of reviews for a car set ups.

    i decided to go with this set up

    IDMAX 12" SUB running in Hifonics BXi 1606D
    Polk Audio MMC6500 for Sep
    Polk Audio MMC650 for Rear
    Both running in Hifonics ZXi6006

    My Question is: Is this a good set up? i'm looking for a good SQL. How much kaya ang aabutin including labor and boxes. any alternative na speakers na makakatipid ako. I'm thinking of going sa Mickeys.

    Thank you in advance for all your help guys.

    sir mag RE subs ka na lang
    at para sa seps "focal nalang ang bilihin mo
    mas mapapamura ka pa


    ehto RE woofer




    focal for mid ang high....
    sinisigurado ko sayo qualiy na quality ang tunog niyan
    malamig sa tenga ang tunog at hindi nakakairita...
    wag ka lang gagamit ng gineric na amplifier para dito sa separates mo...


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    Quote Originally Posted by heaven rio's View Post
    merong mga tao na SQL ang hanap na ibinabase nila sa quality ng tunog......at meron namang tao na ang hinahanap sa SQL ay yung quality ng equipment......

    tip ko lang sayo sir maraming eqipment na mumurahin at baranded na nakakapag produce ng sound quality......

    at kung ang hanap mo naman ay quality ng music at quality ng equipment na bibilihin mo..... mas mapapamahal ka talaga.....

    kung tutuusin sir mas mura ibudget ang SQL kesa sa SPL dahil madaling makuha ang sound quality kesa sa SPL na kailangan mo ng HIGH powerd amplifier na napaka mamahal....hifonics brutus is around 10k pataas SPL yan
    ok, if you say na maraming mumurahin na kaya sound quality ng nasa upper classes like memphis, polk, etc. what are these brands?

    are you serious? mas mura SQL sa SPL? ask anyone and i mean everyone who knows sound setup. SQL is the most expensive because you have to have SQ and SPL thats why its called SQL. sa SPL, you concentrate sa power ng bass. sa SQ you concentrate on quality of music. sa SQL, you have to have both. get your info right please.



    Quote Originally Posted by heaven rio's View Post
    sir mag RE subs ka na lang
    at para sa seps "focal nalang ang bilihin mo
    mas mapapamura ka pa

    focal for mid ang high....
    sinisigurado ko sayo qualiy na quality ang tunog niyan
    malamig sa tenga ang tunog at hindi nakakairita...
    wag ka lang gagamit ng gineric na amplifier para dito sa separates mo...
    kala ko ba marami mumurahin kaya quality ng nasa upper class?

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    Quote Originally Posted by archie123456789 View Post
    ok, if you say na maraming mumurahin na kaya sound quality ng nasa upper classes like memphis, polk, etc. what are these brands?

    are you serious? mas mura SQL sa SPL? ask anyone and i mean everyone who knows sound setup. SQL is the most expensive because you have to have SQ and SPL thats why its called SQL. sa SPL, you concentrate sa power ng bass. sa SQ you concentrate on quality of music. sa SQL, you have to have both. get your info right please.





    kala ko ba marami mumurahin kaya quality ng nasa upper class?
    sir napaka dami kung babangitin ko pa lahat ehto sample nalang.......
    JBL, rockford fosgate, bose, sound magus, DLS, kicker, sound stream ....

    para sabihin ko sayo sir ang nakamamahal lang sa SQL ay kung high quality level na equipment din ang pagkakagastusan.....

    pero kung sa music pagbabasihan ang sound quality at hindi sa equipment mas makakamura....
    dahil lahat naman ng tao ang gusto ay makamura
    aanhin mo naman ang mamahalin na equipment para lang makuha ang quality ng music......kung sa mumurahin ay kaya din naman

    ang sakin lang naman ay yung maging practical... kasi ang hanap ng kliyente ay 50-60k setup...

    di naman po kaya sir nakaka-disappoint yun sakaya na imbis tulungan mas lalu pang pinapa stress sa 100k na setup dahil lang sa pagka expensive ng woodwork at fiberglass,,,wow
    anong kalaseng tabla kaya yan bka narra na yan....sa simpleg "MDF board" na standard board para sa woofers mura lang
    kahit i-DIY lang kung sakaling marunong..mas makakatipid

    opinyon lng yan sir peace

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    hindi ba SQL = Sound Quality Level at SPL = Sound Pressure Level??

    ang dapat ay ang tamang combination ng HU, speakers at amp.. anything too much will not bring you the SQ or SP you are looking for..

    dapat sa sound setup eh maganda yung "Frequency Response" ng mga speakers at amplifiers para lahat nung sound frequency from your HU music eh kayang ibigay nung ampli at speakers.. branded, generic, mahal or mura na equipment dapat maganda ang frequency response para hindi ma cancel yung mga little details of the music..

    consider also the size of the car you are going to install.. baka naman sa vios mo lalagay yung 100k worth of sound setup mo that i think will be too much for that car...

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    Maganda siguro mag audition ka muna sa mga sound EB event kagaya ng KAC . Iba iba kasi taste ng mga Sound enthusiast tungkol sa SQL na set up . At dito makapipili ka kung ano ang magandang set up para sa taste mo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heaven rio's View Post
    sir napaka dami kung babangitin ko pa lahat ehto sample nalang.......
    JBL, rockford fosgate, bose, sound magus, DLS, kicker, sound stream ....

    para sabihin ko sayo sir ang nakamamahal lang sa SQL ay kung high quality level na equipment din ang pagkakagastusan.....

    pero kung sa music pagbabasihan ang sound quality at hindi sa equipment mas makakamura....
    dahil lahat naman ng tao ang gusto ay makamura
    aanhin mo naman ang mamahalin na equipment para lang makuha ang quality ng music......kung sa mumurahin ay kaya din naman

    ang sakin lang naman ay yung maging practical... kasi ang hanap ng kliyente ay 50-60k setup...

    di naman po kaya sir nakaka-disappoint yun sakaya na imbis tulungan mas lalu pang pinapa stress sa 100k na setup dahil lang sa pagka expensive ng woodwork at fiberglass,,,wow
    anong kalaseng tabla kaya yan bka narra na yan....sa simpleg "MDF board" na standard board para sa woofers mura lang
    kahit i-DIY lang kung sakaling marunong..mas makakatipid

    opinyon lng yan sir peace
    teka teka rockford fosgate and DLS mas mura sa memphis?

    ask mickey, kid audio kahit generic na sound setup people kung ano mas maganda tumunog, memphis ba o yung mga brand na sinabi mo (except DLS and rockford fosgate)?

    shempre, quality over quantity and SQL setup. ive been around people that do setups. they will always say, generic sound setup will raise the quailty but not as much as most branded equipment.

    no one is saying na mali kung low end gagamitin mo sa sounds BUT if you have 50k-60k worth of money to spend on setup, quality over cost is what you are after.

    man, do the setup yourself if you know how to maximize potential. narra? hahaha what your paying is their ability to maximize the potential and NOT the material. parang sinabi mo na rin, "bakit ang mahal ng libo, papel lang naman yan?" hahaha :bwahaha: the content is what your after.

    im not forcing the TS to get what he suggested. im just saying na hindi kasya yung budget. thats why i suggested something that might fit his budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archie123456789 View Post
    teka teka rockford fosgate and DLS mas mura sa memphis?

    ask mickey, kid audio kahit generic na sound setup people kung ano mas maganda tumunog, memphis ba o yung mga brand na sinabi mo (except DLS and rockford fosgate)?

    shempre, quality over quantity and SQL setup. ive been around people that do setups. they will always say, generic sound setup will raise the quailty but not as much as most branded equipment.

    no one is saying na mali kung low end gagamitin mo sa sounds BUT if you have 50k-60k worth of money to spend on setup, quality over cost is what you are after.



    man, do the setup yourself if you know how to maximize potential. narra? hahaha what your paying is their ability to maximize the potential and NOT the material. parang sinabi mo na rin, "bakit ang mahal ng libo, papel lang naman yan?" hahaha :bwahaha: the content is what your after.

    im not forcing the TS to get what he suggested. im just saying na hindi kasya yung budget. thats why i suggested something that might fit his budget.
    WOW
    ang galing mo naman sir at ang yaman mo naman parang sinabi mo na rin na napakaliit na bagay ang libo kasi para sa lahat ng tao malaking halaga ang isang libo....dapat pala sir mobile sound system na sinesetup mo tulad ng sinesetup namin dito at dinadayo sa iloilo para mabawasan naman yang milliones mo..... madami ka pala alam sa audo setup....
    sorry tao lang nag try lng kc ako d2 sa forum na eto hahaha
    iba din pala ang car audio haha


    :havefun::cheers: "peace"

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    really? you own a sound setup shop? sa dynamics lang ng capacitor mali na, i dont think you know sound system.

    i would not even comment on your post if it were true.

    FYI: im not rich, as a matter of fact generic lang sound setup ko BUT it does not mean i would recommend it kung may budget yung tao to make a much better sound system than what i have.

    simply put: get your FACTS right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archie123456789 View Post
    really? you own a sound setup shop? sa dynamics lang ng capacitor mali na, i dont think you know sound system.

    i would not even comment on your post if it were true.

    FYI: im not rich, as a matter of fact generic lang sound setup ko BUT it does not mean i would recommend it kung may budget yung tao to make a much better sound system than what i have.

    simply put: get your FACTS right.
    wla kaming shop for info.......
    DIY lahat kung gusto mo maniwala bisitahin mo ang youtube then search for the mobile sound system in iloilo
    dun kami nadayo....

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are this a good set ups?