2nd hand bimmers

[pnat]

Hello everyone,

Would you advise in buying a 2nd hand BMW, specifically yung 316i 95-99 model? I've been seeing around sa net na madaming nag bebenta nito and saying na nothing to fix or in good running condition. Is it really true? I'm planning to buy one soon but just want to make sure I gey my money's worth. Probably I can also get feedback here who has bought one (2nd hand bimmer) and could tell how was thier experience and was it really worth it kahit used na sya. Thanks in advance on whatever advise you can share and appreciate all the help.

Thanks.

[boyscout]

its way too old and underpowered (bad fuel mileage). higher maintenance (bmw spare parts are way overpriced). you are better off getting a newer japanese sedan. if you really want a bmw don't get the 316, para masabi lang naka bmw ka.

[tidus1203]

There was a time na I thought about getting one of those mid 90's BMW 316i but then my logic got the best out of my emotions. Tama si boyscout na mahal ang parts ng BMW, and since medyo luma na yan impossible walang checkups ang kailangan sigurado meron yan. Its not exactly fuel efficient too since lumang modelo na and underpowered nga. Yun nga din sinabi ng tatay ko sakin, gusto mo bumili para masabi mong naka BMW ka In the end I didn't buy! And think about it? Why are these peeps selling it at an attractive price (mga P300K++ lang ata) for a European car no less a BMW?

[SNAKE V6]

I agree with the previous post. Along with that old car are definite problems, so logically, it's really not a good buy unless you got money to throw out on re-conditioning it...I mean it's a nice car, but it's not as good as efficient as the newer machines out there at the same price range..

[alwayz_yummy]

may pre-owned selections na inoffer sa akin ang klassik-bmw(kasa to ha)

x3 2.0d SAV, 6MT, 2007 model, 8850kms, black... from 3.1M down to 2.9M w/ 12-months warranty.

should i test drive it?

tapos mayroon ding pre-owned X5 2 sila, both 2002 models 3.0d, silver and black, not na covered ng warranty

silver - 61150kms, 2.5M
black - 119530kms, 2.6M

kung kayo papapiliin, anu kukunin nyu?

meron pa mga used BMW models dito sa listahan na binigay sa akin.

anywayz, about the 316i - totoo mabagal to dahil sa bigat ng kaha, well, drive it sparingly, you'll be surprised na matipid to, pero dont expect na makakaovertake ka ng madalian,

pero nasa sayo yan...

kung for show lang, alisin mo nalang 316i badge di na malalaman yun... atleast di ka mababranded na "rice" on the road naman, the average motorist will say-- sana meron din ako hehehe

[yetiman]

peeps,

para sa akin kung namamahalan kayo sa presyo ng BMW parts maybe you

don't deserve the car....better get newer jap kung wary kayo on maintaining

a euro car. BMWs got character unlike other cars na considered "appliances"

Kahit ano mangyari, benz at bmw pa rin yan.... Hondas are so expensive to

maintain also pag inabot ka ng mga woes

[dirk_diggler]

peeps,

para sa akin kung namamahalan kayo sa presyo ng BMW parts maybe you

don't deserve the car....better get newer jap kung wary kayo on maintaining

a euro car. BMWs got character unlike other cars na considered "appliances"

Kahit ano mangyari, benz at bmw pa rin yan.... Hondas are so expensive to

maintain also pag inabot ka ng mga woes

Awww!!! SNAP!!!

Pero I agree with yetiman -- kahit anong sabihin mo, BMW pa rin yan. Eh nasa tao yan what his purpose is for buying a bimmer. Whether purpose nya is for self-gratification or to impress other people, so what? Choice nya yun. Don't tell me people buy SiR's purely for the engine? Sometimes, it's also for the "pride" na "naka SiR ako". So how is it different from buying a 316?

Some facts here: Sa E36 body, there are no manual tranny's except for the 316. I happen to prefer manual over matic, so I got the 316. If there was a 320 na manual, why not? Binabayaran mo rin kasi dyan yung little things na wala sa jap sedans of the same year -- dual digital climate control, ABS, airbag, dual vanity mirror, foglights, etc. And the handling is actually very very good. Medyo stiff ng onti yun steering for better control.

Regarding fuel economy, I would say it degrades over time -- just like any other car. Actually, I know of a lot of GLi's and Accord's na mas malakas ang consumption sa kanya. You really can't expect a fuel consumption na parang XL ka lang.

It has also cross my mind before if I would have been better off sticking to a jap sedan (I had a 98 VTEC before). There are advantages and disadvantages. You just have to consider all your needs and wants. For now, the BMW serves my purpose.

Regarding maintenance costs, para ka rin lang nag maintain ng same year Accord. Honestly. I changed my front shocks earlier this year for about 5t. (No kidding), plus labor of course. It's just okaaaay.. not great.

Anyhoo, to the original poster, my advice would be to try out one for yourself. Mahirap kasi magdecide ng nde mo pa nakikita kung ok talaga o nde. If you decide that you like it enough to buy one, then that's the time to be more cautious about what you'll be getting.

[KCboy]

may pre-owned selections na inoffer sa akin ang klassik-bmw(kasa to ha)

x3 2.0d SAV, 6MT, 2007 model, 8850kms, black... from 3.1M down to 2.9M w/ 12-months warranty.

should i test drive it?

tapos mayroon ding pre-owned X5 2 sila, both 2002 models 3.0d, silver and black, not na covered ng warranty

silver - 61150kms, 2.5M
black - 119530kms, 2.6M

kung kayo papapiliin, anu kukunin nyu?

meron pa mga used BMW models dito sa listahan na binigay sa akin.

anywayz, about the 316i - totoo mabagal to dahil sa bigat ng kaha, well, drive it sparingly, you'll be surprised na matipid to, pero dont expect na makakaovertake ka ng madalian,

pero nasa sayo yan...

kung for show lang, alisin mo nalang 316i badge di na malalaman yun... atleast di ka mababranded na "rice" on the road naman, the average motorist will say-- sana meron din ako hehehe

mahal yung binebenta sa iyo na x3 2.0diesel: sa newspapers, may binebenta na 07 x3 2.0 diesel mt, 2.05M lang, 12k kms na tinakbo,

as for the 02 x5, masmahal pa, sa newspapers may mg 03 to 04 models being sold for sagad 2.2 to 2.3m, lowe mileage pa. when buying 2nd hand bmws, dapat maging barat ka. kasi mamanahin mo yung high cost ng maintenance, lalo na kung medyo high mileage yung bmw, if low mileage, better so makatipid kayo sa repair costs.

if you buy sa casa, mahal pa din, ang selling point lang nila ay warranty pa daw nila, but if you know how to look sa used bmw, the warranty is not an issue. bmws are built tough so as long na di laspag, you shouldn't encounter and serious problems with a used bmw.

[StraightSix]

I've been seeing around sa net na madaming nag bebenta nito and saying na nothing to fix or in good running condition. Is it really true?

Just like any other used car, I'm afraid it's up to you to find out. Just because it's a BMW doesn't mean it's always the truth. Caveat emptor.

I'm planning to buy one soon but just want to make sure I gey my money's worth.

You don't buy a bimmer for practical reasons. For reasons other than that, a lot of people think it's worth it - including myself.

Probably I can also get feedback here who has bought one (2nd hand bimmer) and could tell how was thier experience and was it really worth it kahit used na sya.

I still have my 1991 E36 320i sedan (with a manual tranny ). Yep, it's one of the earliest E36's and is already 17 years old. I bought it 7 years ago and it has done 200Tkm+. It has never let me down.

I don't care about prestige (my pockets won't let me do that), so I don't give a rat's ass how people look at me and my car. But I do enjoy driving a good car I can afford. I'm happy with it.

Would you advise in buying a 2nd hand BMW, specifically yung 316i 95-99 model?

It depends a lot on what you expect to get from the car.

Looks? It's old.
Prestige? It's a BMW.
Parts and services? Dearer.
Fuel economy? Not much different from other 1.6li cars of the same age.
Speed? No way.
Handling? Oh, yes!

Weigh them up and decide.

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My take on de-badging (no offense, AY): Any moron won't be able to tell the difference between a 316 and a 328. However, bimmer enthusiasts can tell if you're trying to hide 4 cylinders in your E36. Why go through the trouble?

Some people debadge their bigger bimmers ... just to enjoy smoking racer boys who assumed it was a 316 or 318.

[168]

a BMW will always be a BMW. wether its a high end or low end it is still a BMW. BMWs are the "ultimate driving machines". dont get a BMW if you cant afford the parts. you dont get a 316i para may masabing naka-BMW ka. No! you get a 316i because its features are way ahead of its rivals. a 316i has 4 wheel disc brakes, rain sensor, a styling which never fades, a very superb handling, climate controls, airbags and a lot to mention that no jap cars have at its time of release. 316i's are not much underpowered since it can outrun jap cars which are also 1.6. Parts are really more expensive than other jap cars sinsce its German. lifespan of these parts are a lot longer than jap parts. Quality comes with a price.

[hein]

If you really want a European car, make sure its a 2nd or spare car. Have a Japanese car for everyday use, pang weekend na yung BMW. That way, you'll have more fun and less headache.

[Boy Torotot]

You don't buy a bimmer for practical reasons.

Totally agree on this one. So, if you're thinking about getting your money's worth on a 95-99 316i, chances are, you'll probably get disappointed. It's a good car, but for a 10-year old vehicle, unless you really know it is in very good condition, you're in for a nightmare when major parts bogged down(and they most likely will very soon). Sabi nga, quality comes at a price. So if you think you can handle the price(of parts, maintenance & pain killers), then go get one, who knows you might get lucky.

[Para Ordenance]

Right, BMW is a BMW.

Binigay sakin ng dad ko yung 316i namin kaya sakin na yun. At ang masasabi ko... Medyo mabagal ang acceleration pero mabilis naman sya kapag naggain ng momentum.

At BMW parin sya kahit 10yrs old na sya. Kahit tumabi pa ako sa bagong lancer o civic dyan. Mas nahihiya parin yung tinabihan ko dahil BMW yung sakin kahit 10yrs older yung kotse ko.

Downside nga lang:
Acceleration, at mahal ang maintenance at mga parts. Dahil sadyang mahal talaga ang BMW.

[seonadancing]

I hope the people that are talking **** about old BMW's have actually driven one before they give their opinion. I bought a second hand one in running condition, so madami din ako pinalitan na parts, the thing is I already knew that I had to have money on the side for the maintenance. After all the parts replacement, ok na naman lahat. The driving experience is different driving a bmw and a japanese car and you won't understand it until you have driven one.

To the cool people who thinks that acceleration is a big deal, i think masyado lang kayo nababad sa panonood ng Top Gear. The acceleration of the 316 is enough for a non-pacool non-racer driver, and the gas mileage is 9km/l. I think the design is still better than most of the new cars that have come out in the last 5 years.

So to the guy who's thinking of buying one, magtabi ka ng pera for maintenance, I suggest mga 60k on top of the price of the car you're going to get. Test drive mo din muna for you to understand what you're buying and how it's different from japanese cars.

[bynnos]

When does owning a BMW 3 Series start becoming a headache? I see a lot of E46s being sold by the time they reach 40T-45T kilometers. Is this the typical mileage when maintenance issues start cropping up?

What about a 2005 BMW 320i at around 25T kilometers? I assume this car would still be in pretty good shape. What should I watch out for in terms for potential problems? How much in annual car maintenance should I anticipate?

Thanks for any inputs.

[beamer whacko]

Try my bmw 325i bro. im selling it and you may see the difference im selling it. makikita mo kung bakit mahal ang bimmer against japs car.

[moneywhiz]

Right, BMW is a BMW.
At BMW parin sya kahit 10yrs old na sya. Kahit tumabi pa ako sa bagong lancer o civic dyan. Mas nahihiya parin yung tinabihan ko dahil BMW yung sakin kahit 10yrs older yung kotse ko.

I would choose the brand new Civic or Lancer anytime of the day than a 10 year old BMW.

how do you know that "nahihiya" katabi mo? just curious

[kenzie]

I would choose the brand new Civic or Lancer anytime of the day than a 10 year old BMW.

how do you know that "nahihiya" katabi mo? just curious

i used to drive an E34 (1990) ... but that was when i was living in Guam ... that car was a classic love hate relationship . alaga ko yun in and out kase may pang maintain ako sa kanya pero if iisipin mo talga kung wala kang budget na pang alaga sa bimmer eh you are really setting up yourself for a disaster .... ako pag nag kotse ako gusto ko lage parang brand new ang ride ( all aspects ) kaya yung bimmer kong yun halos every weekend asa shop pag may naramdaman akong unte kakaiba takbo agad sa talyer ... sa Guam yun, yung earnings ko dun kaya mag alaga ng bimmer bukod sa family ko...bottom line kung mag bi bimmer ka na luma kailangan ready ka sa gastusan ...like what all the other posters said before if you're just wanting a bimmer para lang masabi na naka bimmer ka eh you're doin it for the wrong reason.

ako kapag nakakakita ng E34 sa kalsada dito sa pinas naalala ko at na mi miss yun bimmer ko dati pero after a few secs hehehe ok nako dahil in my experience alam na alam ko na may sakit ng ulo yung mayari ng bimmer na nakita ko ...

japanese car auto ko ngaun pero hindi ako nahihiya kapag may katabi akong bimmer ako naman nag pa gas sa auto ko eh hindi yung may ari ng bimmer sa tabi ko hehe.....kaya yung naka bimmer dyan na akala nya lahat ng katabi nya nahihiya dahil hindi bimmer dalang auto your way off buddy ....

[daney_waney]

I would choose the brand new Civic or Lancer anytime of the day than a 10 year old BMW.

how do you know that "nahihiya" katabi mo? just curious

I'm guessing you have not driven/owned a BMW. :P Try driving a brand new Civic and compare it with a 10 year old BMW. You'd surely get more driving pleasure with the 10 year old car. Heck even my girlfriend (who does not know anything about cars and drives her car as long as it is running) notices that my project car is more fun to drive than a new CRV or Civic. :P

[GERRYb7366]

Hello everyone,

Would you advise in buying a 2nd hand BMW, specifically yung 316i 95-99 model? I've been seeing around sa net na madaming nag bebenta nito and saying na nothing to fix or in good running condition. Is it really true? I'm planning to buy one soon but just want to make sure I gey my money's worth. Probably I can also get feedback here who has bought one (2nd hand bimmer) and could tell how was thier experience and was it really worth it kahit used na sya. Thanks in advance on whatever advise you can share and appreciate all the help.

Thanks.

Tol, i am a new member and i don't know yet how to use this tool but i hope you can teach me. I am looking to buy within 7 days a second hand BMW Z3 in red color for my wife, can you help me find how?


thanks,

gerry