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  1. #61
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    Default Re: Avanza Headlight Upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by juanarodriguez View Post
    Holy cow! I upgraded my headlight yesterday afternoon to Yellow Cap Special Halogen Lamp Series for 800 petot with 3 mos warranty. Wala kasi silang stock nung Phillips Extreme....kainis!!!!Bought it at C3 tinanong ko naman si Sonny sabi nya ok lang daw yun ~ napansin ko lang na iba pala wattage this morning na 12V 10/90W.....oooohhhhh my almost twice as high yung wattage as stock. Baka mangitim din yung aking headlight .....will go back to C3 later and try ko if papayag silang ireplace with same wattage. Super liwanag talaga gusto ko yung output but I am so worried na madamage headlight ko!



    waaaaaaa!!!! Baka may interested sa inyo bumili?
    Our stock Headlight wattage is 60/55W. Kung gagamit ng over wattage bulbs, it is highly recommended na palitan ang relay at ang buong wiring harness, kasama na rin dito ang mga sockets. Naka design lang kasi ang stock to 60/55W na H4 bulb.

    Hindi naman kaagad didilim or iitim ang headlight reflector at glass mo, mas mabilis lang imitim compared duon sa gumagamit ng stock. Eventually kasi, lalabo ang pinaka glass nito at mangingitim ang reflector. Pero I think taon ang bibilangin pag stock.

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    Default Re: Avanza Headlight Upgrade

    Thanks sir....so many sleepless nights na ako....iwas gamit muna ako ng headlights lately gamit ko fog muna.....bili na lang ako ng Phillips Extreme

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    Default Re: Avanza Headlight Upgrade

    I texted the warranty officer ng TYT and was informed that the warranty of electricals is 3 years

    Good news guys! ok kausap itong si Sanny of C3 4X4 I called him and expressed my worries about the new bulb... he was patient enough to explain to me the details about headlight bulbs, his experience with customers, my options but best of all, since I am worried about voiding my warranty, he offered to replace the bulb ng same wattage as the stock....waiting lang muna kami for the arrival of his stock.

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    Default Re: Avanza Headlight Upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by juanarodriguez View Post
    I texted the warranty officer ng TYT and was informed that the warranty of electricals is 3 years

    Good news guys! ok kausap itong si Sanny of C3 4X4 I called him and expressed my worries about the new bulb... he was patient enough to explain to me the details about headlight bulbs, his experience with customers, my options but best of all, since I am worried about voiding my warranty, he offered to replace the bulb ng same wattage as the stock....waiting lang muna kami for the arrival of his stock.
    Prenster, I suggest na ibalik mo muna yung stock headlights mo.

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    Default Re: Avanza Headlight Upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by woohoo View Post
    Prenster, I suggest na ibalik mo muna yung stock headlights mo.
    Hi Prenster long time no chat...been unwired for several weeks....good news po ready for pick up na yung Narva lights na same wattage as stock....sanny will replace it mamaya.

    Uuuuyyy susunod na EB sa bandang inyo hope to see you there and Levanz

  6. #66
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    Default Re: Avanza Headlight Upgrade

    Ate Jane,

    Lekat ang hirap hanapin ng Philips Extreme a?? sakit na ulo ko haha. Un iba shops Flosser ang binibigay,ok ba un?

    Jun

  7. #67
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    Default Re: Avanza Headlight Upgrade

    wala na ba sa megamall??

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    koya jun kamusta busy as a bee ang koya ko ah!!!

    hirap makatyempo ng phillips extreme na yan....nagpapa order ako sa states if meron .... anyways, sanny replaced my headlamp to Narva all-weather same wattage as stock....sa susunod na eb compare natin difference with phillips and stock

  9. #69
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    Default Re: Avanza Headlight Upgrade

    mam jane.. yung mga nasa states.. dito din kasi bumibili.. kaya nauubos.. nung bumili ako dati sa Perfect Circle.. may kasabay ako bumili yata nang 6 na pairs.. dadalhin daw sa states..

    sabi ni rbmj.. don daw sa tapat nang Fe Del Mundo sa Banawe meron.. halos kahanay din nang Perfect Circle.. di ko lang matandaan yung sinabi nyang name nang shop..

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    Default Re: Avanza Headlight Upgrade

    share ko lang itong info i got from a forum while researching on headlamps:
    [SIZE=2]Source: http://www.pointedthree.com/disc/for...osts=4&start=1
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    RE: Osram Introduces 90% Brighter Halogen Bulbs
    The new NightBreaker bulbs are not quite as good as the Philips Xtreme Power in terms of raw light output, but the difference is almost unmeasurable and certainly imperceptible in terms of actual headlamp performance. The Osram Night Breaker has areas of blue glass which take away from your seeing performance, rather than augmenting it as the promotional material claims—so-called "whiter" light created by blue filtration like this does not help you see better—so purely on performance, the Xtreme Power wins. Both of these bulbs have the best available output from a standard-wattage bulb, and a short lifespan
    (no free lunch). For stock or near-stock wattage bulbs in headlamps, the best beam performance comes from the following bulbs:

    H1: Philips Xtreme Power

    H3: Narva Rangepower+50

    H4: Osram 70/65w +50

    H7: Osram 65w

    H11: Substitute H9



    Best-pick differs for other applications (fog lamps, etc.) and I don't mean to say the Night Breakers are bad bulbs, it's just Osram kind of got painted into a corner by Philips' minimal use of blue glass in their premium Xtreme Power line, and figured they had to make a bulb that looked significantly different to avoid a "me too" perception, so they cast their lot with larger use of blue glass and revved up the hype machine about "whiter" light.

    As for the various "plus" claims (+30, +50, +80, +90, etc.) keep in mind how they're devised. The plus-numbers cannot be attained simply through greater luminous flux, because of flux and wattage restrictions contained in bulb regulations prevailing worldwide. The "Plus" bulbs do produce near the maximum allowable flux but that's obviously not the whole story. These bulbs have higher filament luminance and give better beam focus because the filament coilitself is smaller. Headlamp optics are calculated based on a point source. The smaller the filament, the more closely it approximates a point source, and therefore the better the focus of the resultant beam pattern. The better the focus of the beam pattern, the higher the beam peak intensity (that is, the brighter the "hot spot"). Depending on the particular bulb and the specific headlamp optic in use, the gain in hot spot intensity can indeed be up to 50% (80%, 90%, whatever) at some specific but not uniform or predictable point in the beam. In practice, that means once Osram or Philips or whoever have designed their newest bulb, they throw the nearest convenient intern in a room with a bunch of headlamps and have him photometer them until the one that gives the single greatest increase (at any point in the beam!) is found, then they give the intern a food pellet as a reward. Tungsram called their 2nd-generation upgrade H4 "+60" either because they were lying or because they found a headlamp for a 1983 Tatra or something that had 60% more light in one particular spot. That doesn't mean the Tungsram "+60" H4 was better than the "+50" bulbs from Philips, Osram, and Narva—it wasn't! So, those "+30" and "+50" and "+80" type numbers are not necessarily a trick or a scam, it just doesn't mean what most people assume it means.

    As for the blue glass, here's a refresher on the science:

    There is no magical blue absorption filter that somehow blocks less light than other blue absorption filters of the same colour
    characteristics. All of the extra light from the "plus" bulb construction and then some is stolen by blue filter glass, whether the blue filter is made by Philips or Osram or one of the less-reputable factories.

    Filament bulbs that have been filtered to produce "whiter" (colder/bluer) light colour, and which comply with DOT or ECE regulations, can be classified in two categories:

    A) The kind that produces less light than an unfiltered bulb and has rather a shorter lifespan

    B) The kind that produces almost the same amount of light as an unfiltered bulb and has an extremely short lifespan.

    There are no "extra white" filtered bulbs that produce identical lumens to an unfiltered bulb and have the same lifespan

    Glowing filaments produce a great deal of light in the red-orange-yellow-green wavelengths, and only very little light in the blue-violet wavelengths. To put very rough numbers on the matter, suppose that a 9006 bulb produces its nominal 1000 lumens, of which 250 are red, 250 are orange, 250 are yellow, 175 are green, 50 are blue and 25 are
    violet.


    Now, suppose you want to add a filter to the glass that makes the light look bluer/colder. How does it do that? Well, there's no such thing as a filter that adds light into the beam passing through it -- filters can only suppress light, not add it. So if we can't add green-blue-violet light, then the only way to get the light to look colder is to suppress green-blue-violet's opposites, which are red-orange-yellow. If we want the light to look, let's say, 20% colder, we suppress red-orange-yellow by 20%. Looking up above, we see that we've got a total of 750 lumens' worth of red, orange and yellow. So, cutting this by 20% leaves 600 lumens, plus essentially all of the bulb's original green-blue-violet output of 250 lumens, so we've now got a bulb that produces light that looks 20% colder and produces 850 lumens.

    Now, 850 lumens happens to be the minimum legal output for a 9006. Unless we're a completely stinky Chinese company that really doesn't give a rat's patoot about it, we can't produce a bulb that produces only the bare minimum of light, because 50% of production will be 849 lumens or less owing to the realities of mass production. So, we have to put in a high-luminance filament to try to counteract some of the filtering losses. BUT we still have to come in under the max-allowable-wattage spec in DOT or ECE regulations.

    So, let's say we build our 9006 with a super-duper filament that produces 1200 lumens. That's too much for a 9006, but we're going to take away some of those lumens with our filter-glass. This 1200-lumen filament produces, let's say, 300 lumens red, 300 lumens orange, 300 lumens yellow, 210 lumens green, 60 lumens blue and 30 lumens violet. Now we put that
    same blue glass over it, which suppresses red-orange-yellow by 20%. Now we've got 720 lumens' worth of red-orange-yellow after filtration, plus 300 lumens' worth of green-blue-violet. That gives us a 910-lumen bulb, which is enough above the 850-lumen legal "floor" that we can mass-produce the bulb and even if some filaments only produce 1150 lumens instead of
    1200, we're still legally OK. Of course, we still only have 910 lumens instead of 1000, and our 1200-lumen filament is going to have a significantly shorter life than a 1000-lumen filament, but we've got our colder/bluer light appearance in a legal bulb.

    I bet by now you see why filtering for yellow does not significantly reduce light output: Take our 1000-lumen 9006 as broken down by colour output above. No such thing as a filter that adds extra yellow light, so we have to get our yellow by suppressing blue-violet (the particular yellow that yellow headlamp/foglamp bulbs produce, called "selective
    yellow", contains all the green found in white light. If we took out some of the green, we'd have a turn signal type of amber-orange light.) OK, then, let's cut blue-violet by 80%. That means we've got our 925 lumens' worth of red-orange-yellow-green, plus 15 lumens' worth of blue-violet (after filtration). Total: 940 lumens. MUCH smaller loss! OK, so we put in a very slightly better filament, say one that produces 1060 lumens, and now we've got 980 lumens' worth of red-orange-yellow-green, plus 16 lumens' worth of blue-violet (after filtration) for a total of 996 lumens, which is for all intents and purposes identical to our original 1000-lumen uncoloured bulb (a parking light bulb puts out between 25 and 50 lumens).

    Lumen output is less than standard for colourless-glass Long Life bulbs for a different reason: The changes made to the filament to extend its life reduce its surface luminance, decreasing light output and CCT. They also defocus the beam pattern, resulting in shorter seeing distance, because the filament coil is larger. This is exactly opposite what's going on with the +30, +50, +80 type bulbs as described above.

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