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    Quote Originally Posted by moe View Post
    insufficient curing time i guess. the test of a good paint job is longevity
    tama! pero sir kung tama ang pag apply ng paint. sa retoke, e kahit after 2 days lang ay i buff na dapat di na lalabo yan.

    Quote Originally Posted by vanjo View Post
    pasali naman, nagpahilamos ako ng sasakyan, sabi sakin nung head doon wag muna ibuff at patuyuin muna ng 45 days.. sa ngayon nakaka 1 week palang ako.. ganun ba talaga katagal yun para maging mirror finish or pwede na kahit 30 days lang? tsaka normally diba ibubuff muna ng isang beses tapos patutuyuin tapos ibabalik after nung curing time tapos ibubuff nila ulit para kumintab at magmirror finish? thanks
    kadalasan sa libro nababasa yan sir. libro na ang author is american. hehehe. pero mainit naman po dito satin. yung ibang shops may oven pa. 2 weeks lang na curing time ok na yan. kung lumabo pa din. e sa nagpintura na may diperensya yan.

    Quote Originally Posted by jun1202 View Post
    :D sir! if u like a very glossy talga ung outcome... use a poly urathane paints. kaso may kamahalan nga lang.. ordinary paints is not much that glossy..

    and di po nid ng days bago i buff, ang problema lang kc kung manipis yung topcoat na nilagay or panget ung ginamit na paints panget outcome....
    tama sir. 2k paints are known for its quality talaga. pero add ko lang. di sya kasiguraduhan na kikintab. malaki pa din ang factor ng pintor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Innova_Boy View Post
    update lang...

    lumabo na naman yung panels....

    sabi saken need lang to rebuff..

    dapat ba i repaint na lang yung defective panel??


    WBR,
    subukan nyo sila sundin sir. para sa susunod e wala na sila maidahilan.

    pero hindi po talaga magiging perpekto na magkatulad ang bago at lumang pintura. kadalasan e mas makintab ang bago.

    kaso sa case nyo e mas makintab pa yung lumang paint e. anyway try nyo muna sila sundin.
    Last edited by LexTer; August 12th, 2008 at 01:17 AM.

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    #12
    tHANKS for advice lexter,

    but the question is di kaya sumobra na nipis or maubos na top coat ng panel na yun??


    WBR,

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    #13
    tHANKS for advice lexter,

    but the question is di kaya sumobra na nipis or maubos na top coat ng panel na yun??


    WBR,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Innova_Boy View Post
    tHANKS for advice lexter,

    but the question is di kaya sumobra na nipis or maubos na top coat ng panel na yun??


    WBR,
    ang standard kasi is apat na patong. kung twice pa lang sya ma buff e hindi naman siguro. unless manipis ang pinatong nila.

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    #15
    qualty materials,casa,a good shop,
    if it had been like to this i enumerated.
    it will turn out just like you described it sir.

    1.maybe its cheaply painted
    2.maybe its rushed
    3.poor preparation kahit na good materials
    4.lmited painter skill and knowledge


    HTH

    urethane or acrylic,
    it all boils down hot the shop handles the pintor/quality

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    #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Innova_Boy View Post
    I went to a shop to repaint my car which was involve in an accident. it involves two panels, the doors on th right side both front and rear. Now after getting it from ths shop, both panels was nicely painted and glossy as i have seen it...

    However after more than a week, I notice among the repainted 2 panels, one is more glossy than the other, so i bring it back to the shop. the painter said " sir kulang lang cguro sa liha kaya di glossy, tapos rubbing na lang uli natin"

    Guys or paint expert out there... what must have they done wrong for this to happen on my car? kulang kaya sa topcoat yan or what other can cause this? Thanks for helping me analyze what went wrong...


    WBR,
    sir Innova_Boy* There a great possibility it has lack of curing time at the same time small amount of topcoat was applied.. if they try to make some liha again plus buffing, lalong mawawala yung topcoat..

    Quote Originally Posted by vanjo View Post
    pasali naman, nagpahilamos ako ng sasakyan, sabi sakin nung head doon wag muna ibuff at patuyuin muna ng 45 days.. sa ngayon nakaka 1 week palang ako.. ganun ba talaga katagal yun para maging mirror finish or pwede na kahit 30 days lang? tsaka normally diba ibubuff muna ng isang beses tapos patutuyuin tapos ibabalik after nung curing time tapos ibubuff nila ulit para kumintab at magmirror finish? thanks
    sobrang tagal naman ng 45 days.. usually 5 days is the maximum pag hindi oven bake or yung mainit talaga para kapit yung pintura and topcoat.. pero 45 days grabe na yun.

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    #17
    alainroyce is right.

    to vanjo,usually 5-7 days lang ok na newly painted
    for rubbing,baka jinojoke ka lang nun bro.

    ok na dapat yan

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    #18
    Mga bossing pasali naman. I was a little bit worried when I read this thread. I was thinking hindi kaya mangyari sakin yung nangyari ke Innova Boy. Sinagi kasi ako ng motorcycle sa kanang bahagi sa may bandang likuran last week. After amicable settlement sa police station binayaran ako nung nakasagi after na ma-estimate yung damage sa shop na recommended ng friend ko. Dinala ko yung car sa shop at after na maitulak ng kaunti yung parte na lumubog minasilyahan na at pinauwi na sakin yung oto at ibalik ko na lang daw kinabukasan para mapintutan yung panel. So I did what the owner of the shop told me. There, I was watching while the painter wet sand the car. After few hours sinabihan ako na iwan ko na yung oto at balikan kinabukasan. Pagbalik ko kinabukasan ok na yung oto at parang walang nangyari, makinis na makinis na yung part na pininturahan. In fact super glossy yung part na pininturahan nila. The shop owner told me that in their shop they only use polyurethane paint. My question is hindi kaya minadali yung trabaho? Mangyari rin kaya sakin yung nangyari ke InnovaBoy na after a week hindi na kasingganda yung paint when I first saw it? TIA.

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    #19
    Quote Originally Posted by smooth View Post
    if i'm not mistaken, ang tawag ng mga pintor dyan ay nag-la-labong ang pintura. normal ata yan sa mga bagong pintang sasakyan. which is why karamihan ng mga paintshops will advise you not to have your car waxed within 30 days after getting it painted.

    why it happens: ang explanation sa akin ng dalawang pintor (different paintshops) and dalawang detailers (different detailing shops) ay sumisingaw pa daw ang solvent ng pintura. in effect, nag-se-settle pa daw ang pintura.

    solution: kelangan lang talagang i-buff uli.

    this happened to my car when i had it washed over. within a month, naglabong siya. they just buffed it again. now, its been over a year and okay pa naman ang pintura.

    Agree. Tsaka may natural top coat ang mga pintura..... Nawawala nga lang ito over time.... Magandang ibabad sa arawan ang sasakyan at pag "tumigas" na ang pintura, tsaka mo pa-buff (bule yata ang tawag ng iba)....

    6707:choir:

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    #20
    "sir we can buff that out" is the best, most tired excuse of a sucky painter

    if you are a good painter, the finish will look beautiful right after it dries. yes, you can buff out any minor imperfections, but it's better to do it right the first time, no?

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