"Tamang OC lang" - a newbie's guide to car appearance maintenance

[MrClay13]

Thanks sir scharnhorst

meron ulit ako mga question sorry po talga kung matanong ako

nung nakita ko kasi m2 mo po talga gusto ko maging ganun din ka kintab atleast close man lang

eto na po

1. Ano po ang wax na pwede ko e-patanong sa nanogloss except sa collinite 476(hinde pa talga makakabili eh) ung wax na kaya bilin lang sa Blade,Ace or Handyman na hinde ganun kamahal pero mganda nman ang result nia at mganda in between ng nanogloss at nanosliq

2. Ilang beses ko pwede ulitin ung pag apply ng SwirlX para matangal ang swril marks(ibig sabihin kunwari 5 times na hinde parin tanggal yung swirl marks ibig ba sabihin nun d na kaya ng SwirlX? ) at hinde ba toh nakakatangal ng clear coat pag mdaming beses paulit ulit? at ung ibig bang sabihin na nakakatangal ng swirl marks as in tanggal o parang temporary na hinde mo lang makikita yung swirl marks?

3. Sana wag kayong mag sawang sumagot sa mga katulad nmin na mga baguhan siguro ako matagal parin ako magiging baguhan at mangungulit sa pagtanong

Sana dumating na ang araw na madali nalang mag hanap ng mga Optimum Products sana pwede na rin sila mabili sa Blade or mganda sa Ace
nasasabik talaga ko sa OCW at OCE

gusto ko maging kasing kintab ung m2 ko tulad ng kay sir schar although satisfy nman ako sa kintab na ng auto ko pero syempre dba wlang limit ang satisfaction ng tao haha kaya sigurado gugustuhin ko pa mas makintab.

[cjv_justice]

hehe eto narin balak ko e... either 476 or 915 ng Collinite then OCW and OGE...

from time to time tumitingin ako sa Handyman or Tru Value kung me Optimum products na kaso wala parin, sana mas maging available na...

yung 915 walang stock sa Autobisyo e, sa April pa daw... 476 palang meron for now P700.

[MrClay13]

hehe eto narin balak ko e... either 476 or 915 ng Collinite then OCW and OGE...

from time to time tumitingin ako sa Handyman or Tru Value kung me Optimum products na kaso wala parin, sana mas maging available na...

yung 915 walang stock sa Autobisyo e, sa April pa daw... 476 palang meron for now P700.

sir may autobisyo ba sa q.c. manila? hehe

[cjv_justice]

sa me Southwoods, Laguna sila sir... check out www.autobisyo.com alam ko they do meet ups and item deliveries and then some for your convenience... check mo rin sila sa Facebook...

[john5]

kinapa ko yung bubong ng auto ko kahapon kasi nung nagpupunas ako ng Terry ko magaspang parang may maliliit na bato pero di naman visible sa naked eye.
question is it time to clay my car eh 4mos old pa lang sya?
still shiny pero nakakairita lang yung gaspang at mga libang na di basta basta matanggal

[umi001]

kinapa ko yung bubong ng auto ko kahapon kasi nung nagpupunas ako ng Terry ko magaspang parang may maliliit na bato pero di naman visible sa naked eye.
question is it time to clay my car eh 4mos old pa lang sya?
still shiny pero nakakairita lang yung gaspang at mga libang na di basta basta matanggal

If you can feel the particles - try to place your hand inside a plastic bag and then feel the car's surface - then yes, it would be a good idea to clay. Even if the car has only been with you for four months, it's possible that it might have already accumulated a lot of contaminants, for a variety of reasons. First, note that the car could have been sitting in the factory and dealer parking lot for weeks, if not months, before you got it; and most of these parking lots are open, leaving the car exposed to any dust and dirt from the environment. Second, if the area where you live, drive and work is particularly dirty - maybe there's a lot of construction going on, or you have to drive through gravel roads a lot - it's easy for the car to accumulate contaminants, particularly if it's parked outside.

With the correct application and lubricant, claying won't harm your clear coat, so it should be alright to clay several times a year. Do note, though, that claying may degrade whatever layer of protection your car has, so it'd be a good idea to wax/seal the car afterwards.

[rmsoriano]

sir may autobisyo ba sa q.c. manila? hehe

sir, I think their one and only shop is located in Laguna. I had mine delivered two weeks ago here in central luzon via Air 21, plus 100 pesos nga lang. Satisfied user of collinite 476s car wax, layered with nanosliq. Maybe I will order and try the Klasse twins next time and compare it with collinite. HTH

[scharnhorst]

Thanks sir scharnhorst

meron ulit ako mga question sorry po talga kung matanong ako

nung nakita ko kasi m2 mo po talga gusto ko maging ganun din ka kintab atleast close man lang

eto na po

1. Ano po ang wax na pwede ko e-patanong sa nanogloss except sa collinite 476(hinde pa talga makakabili eh) ung wax na kaya bilin lang sa Blade,Ace or Handyman na hinde ganun kamahal pero mganda nman ang result nia at mganda in between ng nanogloss at nanosliq

Sir, meguiars NXT wax or Mothers Reflections wax can both give you further results, but in my opinion, you'll be better off with just nanoglos and nanosliq, since this combo can already give you a lot for the price point (let's say you get 90% of the desired result for 30% of the price).

The thing with these waxes are they're no more durable than nanoglos, so hindi rin ganoon kaganda ipang layer above the nanoglos.

the booster QDs (top coat and NXT), are good though.

the paste mothers step 3 allegedly can survive a car wash, but it's nowhere near 476s in durability.

2. Ilang beses ko pwede ulitin ung pag apply ng SwirlX para matangal ang swril marks(ibig sabihin kunwari 5 times na hinde parin tanggal yung swirl marks ibig ba sabihin nun d na kaya ng SwirlX? ) at hinde ba toh nakakatangal ng clear coat pag mdaming beses paulit ulit? at ung ibig bang sabihin na nakakatangal ng swirl marks as in tanggal o parang temporary na hinde mo lang makikita yung swirl marks?

Sir, could you describe kung paano mo ginagamit yung swirlX? the trick with working with swirlX is applying it first with increasing pressure, then eventually easing off the pressure... this will prevent buffer swirls.

SwirlX contains abrasives and excessive usage can diminish your clear coat.

3. Sana wag kayong mag sawang sumagot sa mga katulad nmin na mga baguhan siguro ako matagal parin ako magiging baguhan at mangungulit sa pagtanong

I'll try to find time to respond to unanswered questions in this thread (thanks to the others who are filling in for me )... baka next year madalang na, due to my line of education. hehe.

Sana dumating na ang araw na madali nalang mag hanap ng mga Optimum Products sana pwede na rin sila mabili sa Blade or mganda sa Ace
nasasabik talaga ko sa OCW at OCE

sir, I've heard that the current distributor is going to aggressively market optimum in the local setting... so that might not be a far-fetched possibility

gusto ko maging kasing kintab ung m2 ko tulad ng kay sir schar although satisfy nman ako sa kintab na ng auto ko pero syempre dba wlang limit ang satisfaction ng tao haha kaya sigurado gugustuhin ko pa mas makintab.

kaya yan sir, nag umpisa rin ako from the basics

to everyone, you're free to join the pinoydetailing forums for further tips, tricks, and advice regarding detailing

[brawler]

I had mine delivered two weeks ago here in central luzon via Air 21, plus 100 pesos nga lang.

mura lang pala ng shipping. kesa naman po puntahan, pagod at gasolina ang kapalit.

[umi001]

Sir, meguiars NXT wax or Mothers Reflections wax can both give you further results, but in my opinion, you'll be better off with just nanoglos and nanosliq, since this combo can already give you a lot for the price point (let's say you get 90% of the desired result for 30% of the price).

The thing with these waxes are they're no more durable than nanoglos, so hindi rin ganoon kaganda ipang layer above the nanoglos.

the booster QDs (top coat and NXT), are good though.

the paste mothers step 3 allegedly can survive a car wash, but it's nowhere near 476s in durability.



Sir, could you describe kung paano mo ginagamit yung swirlX? the trick with working with swirlX is applying it first with increasing pressure, then eventually easing off the pressure... this will prevent buffer swirls.

SwirlX contains abrasives and excessive usage can diminish your clear coat.



I'll try to find time to respond to unanswered questions in this thread (thanks to the others who are filling in for me )... baka next year madalang na, due to my line of education. hehe.


sir, I've heard that the current distributor is going to aggressively market optimum in the local setting... so that might not be a far-fetched possibility



kaya yan sir, nag umpisa rin ako from the basics

to everyone, you're free to join the pinoydetailing forums for further tips, tricks, and advice regarding detailing

Another wax option would be Turtle Wax Platinum Ultra Gloss. I've not used it myself, but a lot of people say that the look it gives fantastic, especially considering the price.

However, having said that, looks are mostly a factor of the prep work and paint condition, even more so than the LSP used. How's the condition of your paint? Depending on this, it might be worthwhile doing the full 3-step. In your case, you'd have to insert a paint cleaner (Mothers pre-wax cleaner or Megs deep crystal paint cleaner) after you clay but before you apply your nanoglos.

[looks2008]

*SG: bili ka na rin ng optimum!

*chikselog: belated happy birthday sir. haha

*looks2008: I made the guide specifically for newbies who came into the detailing thread who had no idea what to do with their cars... We were just repeating the same advice over and over, hence the knowledge was collated into a single thread.

*MrClay13: yes sir, Showtime muna and then Nanosliq. Optimum products can be bought from sir Edwin or from Ravi, posting the thread below

*umi001: parating makulimlim... pero hindi umuulan eh. OGE really is the best when it's summer!

*jhnkvn: kay sir Ed or kay Ravi, they sell optimum products

Optimum Products Thread

hi,

si sir ed ba si extremedetail sa pdetailing? pwede ba makuha mobile number niya?

[franster]

Hey guys, just want to ask. I'm not sure about this, but is Meguiar's Mirror Glaze #83 Dual Action Cleaner/Polisher abrasive enough to abrade the clear coat? I'm a bit concerned because i intend on using it often (with buffering machine) when i do bi-monthly corrections. Anyone have an idea on how thick of clear coat is abraded with this product? (Considering that if it's really abrasive to take off clear coat)

[jmpet626]

Hey guys, just want to ask. I'm not sure about this, but is Meguiar's Mirror Glaze #83 Dual Action Cleaner/Polisher abrasive enough to abrade the clear coat? I'm a bit concerned because i intend on using it often (with buffering machine) when i do bi-monthly corrections. Anyone have an idea on how thick of clear coat is abraded with this product? (Considering that if it's really abrasive to take off clear coat)

Yes sir it can abrade the clear coat. The amount of clear coat removed would depend on the pad type used, type of machine used and how long you worked the polish. M83 can remove light swirls with a polishing pad, remove medium swirls with a light cutting pad and can also remove marring from a more aggressive polish and pad combination.

If you take a look at this chart Megs 83 is a Medium polish a 6/10 in the aggressiveness scale so it really has correction abilities.

http://www.auto-geek.net/charts/wax-...art-master.htm

As for the Bi-Monthly corrections with this polish I find it unnecessary. Imho you should only polish your car twice a year so you can preserve as much clear coat as possible. Ask yourself why would you polish a car twice a month and what would cause the defects to appear on your paint in the first place?

[john5]

If you can feel the particles - try to place your hand inside a plastic bag and then feel the car's surface - then yes, it would be a good idea to clay. Even if the car has only been with you for four months, it's possible that it might have already accumulated a lot of contaminants, for a variety of reasons. First, note that the car could have been sitting in the factory and dealer parking lot for weeks, if not months, before you got it; and most of these parking lots are open, leaving the car exposed to any dust and dirt from the environment. Second, if the area where you live, drive and work is particularly dirty - maybe there's a lot of construction going on, or you have to drive through gravel roads a lot - it's easy for the car to accumulate contaminants, particularly if it's parked outside.

With the correct application and lubricant, claying won't harm your clear coat, so it should be alright to clay several times a year. Do note, though, that claying may degrade whatever layer of protection your car has, so it'd be a good idea to wax/seal the car afterwards.

thanks boss,very detailed answer mo.i agree with you kase sa pinag paparkingan ko malubak at hindi semento,lupa lang kase mura flat rate 70pesos kesa sa ayala parking sobrang mahal per hour pa at the same time wala akong bubong sa garahe.any combo na pwede kong gawin?

[franster]

Yes sir it can abrade the clear coat. The amount of clear coat removed would depend on the pad type used, type of machine used and how long you worked the polish. M83 can remove light swirls with a polishing pad, remove medium swirls with a light cutting pad and can also remove marring from a more aggressive polish and pad combination.

If you take a look at this chart Megs 83 is a Medium polish a 6/10 in the aggressiveness scale so it really has correction abilities.

http://www.auto-geek.net/charts/wax-...art-master.htm

As for the Bi-Monthly corrections with this polish I find it unnecessary. Imho you should only polish your car twice a year so you can preserve as much clear coat as possible. Ask yourself why would you polish a car twice a month and what would cause the defects to appear on your paint in the first place?

hi there. Thanks for the reply.

So how far can this Meg's #83 abrade? I mean, is there a need for me to be concern on how would it aggressively abrade the clear coat? The area of the paint (hood) which i corrected using this #83 has still the "orange peel" but it now seems different from the other areas which are untreated with the product. The orange peel on that treated area seems to have a smaller kind of peel. I was thinking that there was a fair amount of clear coat abraded. I'm a right here? or should I stop worrying about the clear coat?

[looks2008]

hi,

where can i buy klasse products locally?

[looks2008]

and collinite 476 bukod sa autobisyo and yung klasse bukod kay extremedetail. may ibang sources pa ba?

thanks!

[umi001]

thanks boss,very detailed answer mo.i agree with you kase sa pinag paparkingan ko malubak at hindi semento,lupa lang kase mura flat rate 70pesos kesa sa ayala parking sobrang mahal per hour pa at the same time wala akong bubong sa garahe.any combo na pwede kong gawin?

For the clay? The Mothers claying kit which you can find at Blade and TruValue is pretty good - it contains 2 80gm clay bars, Showtime QD for use as a clay lubricant and an MF towel. Tip - cut the clay bar in half and save that half - one half is sufficient to clay the car. For a more economical lubricant, buy some ONR, then dilute to the clay lubricant ratio (64 to 1).

[umi001]

hi,

where can i buy klasse products locally?

Hmmm, sometimes you can buy Carlack from Big Berts, which is just Klasse under a different brand (I believe Carlack is the original manufacturer, and Klasse rebrands their products and sells in the US).

[MrClay13]

Bakit kaya may mga taong wala magawa sa buhay...

ginasgasan yung auto ko dulo dulo from above ng front tires hanggang lagpas dun sa taas ng likod na tires as in dulo dulo tpos pa wave pa medyo malalim yung nsa unahan kainis talga..

todo alaga ka nga sa car mo pero may mga taong mang gagasgas..

I dont know ano makukuha nila sa pag sira sa gamit ng iba...

mga sir ano po pwede ko gamitin para ma remedyohan kasi nakakairita pag nakikita ko..

kailangan ko na ba sia e-pa sand tpos heavy buffing? or kaya pa DIY?