New-car paint protection. Is it really necessary?

[jut703]

What about for pearl white cars, kailangan ba?

I recently had our Altis repainted (well, parts of it), and I've since started becoming a bit OC on maintaining the paint. My biggest gripe was that after 2 years of ownership, the bumper was significantly more yellow than the rest of the body. Our old maid also caused a lot of scratches on the doors because she wiped the dirt off the car, dry.

With the bumpers and door panels repainted, I was wondering if I needed to avail of Big Bert's Paint Protection to keep the pearl white finish from discoloration. I'm gonna go out later to buy a microfiber washmitt and chamois for cleaning the car, and perhaps when the sun comes up, I'll invest in some waxing (have to read more about this though). I reckon that I'll have time to clean the car around 2-3 times a week, but probably only every month or two for waxing and buffing. Oh yeah, the car's parked on the street so it's not protected against the elements. Sagad masyado sa garahe eh.

With that information, do you guys advise that I avail of paint protection (or if there's some other service I should have, kindly let me know), or do I just let the car be?

[jhnkvn]

As for the premature discoloration on the bumper, I daresay that the fault isn't with weather abuse but rather improper paint matching. Since the first thing that would discolor would often be the hood and the trunk (flat surfaces).

I don't really advocate cleaning the car 2-3 times a week. Hell, I usually go through mine just once every week or once every two weeks (I usually have a roof over the head though so YMMV). A dirty car might scar your ego while driving but I don't have the time to invest 3 hours just for car washes every week. Besides, it's best not to touch your car unless it really needs cleaning... less contact, the better.

You need not necessarily avail yourself of paint protection but it wouldn't hurt to do so. Alot of people like to DIY their detailing so give that a try if it's your cup of tea, if not.. go for the paint protection and DO remember to use it.

[jut703]

As for the premature discoloration on the bumper, I daresay that the fault isn't with weather abuse but rather improper paint matching. Since the first thing that would discolor would often be the hood and the trunk (flat surfaces).

I don't really advocate cleaning the car 2-3 times a week. Hell, I usually go through mine just once every week or once every two weeks (I usually have a roof over the head though so YMMV). A dirty car might scar your ego while driving but I don't have the time to invest 3 hours just for car washes every week. Besides, it's best not to touch your car unless it really needs cleaning... less contact, the better.

You need not necessarily avail yourself of paint protection but it wouldn't hurt to do so. Alot of people like to DIY their detailing so give that a try if it's your cup of tea, if not.. go for the paint protection and DO remember to use it.

Took a look at pictures I took of the car when it was brand new, and the bumper color seemed identical to the body color. I wasn't able to take a picture of the car right before having it repainted, but I really found it more yellow. I attested it to the fact that the bumpers were plastic while the body is metal, so the rate of deterioration may vary, but that was just a hunch, not sure if it's any bit valid. The only reason that I want to go for paint protection is to keep the bumpers the same shade as the body. If hindi naman makakatulong, I'll be fine with just the occasional detailing job.

Having the car parked outside, I notice that even just half a day after cleaning it, I could already feel dust accumulating on the surface. Dati pinapalinis pa yun ng nanay ko every day sa maid kasi may pagka-OA siya sa linis. I told her that it'll just scrape the clear coat off. Since nagasgasan yung car though, I took on the task of cleaning it. Lalo na ngayon since it just got painted.

Well since malapit na tag-ulan, I'll probably be cleaning it just once to twice a week. Sayang pagod ko kung lilinis ko tapos babagyuhin lang a few hours after haha.

*renz
Magkano ba pa clear vinyl? Haha feeling ko I'm not ready to spend that much for detailing yet

[renzo_d10]

Took a look at pictures I took of the car when it was brand new, and the bumper color seemed identical to the body color. I wasn't able to take a picture of the car right before having it repainted, but I really found it more yellow. I attested it to the fact that the bumpers were plastic while the body is metal, so the rate of deterioration may vary, but that was just a hunch, not sure if it's any bit valid. The only reason that I want to go for paint protection is to keep the bumpers the same shade as the body. If hindi naman makakatulong, I'll be fine with just the occasional detailing job.

Having the car parked outside, I notice that even just half a day after cleaning it, I could already feel dust accumulating on the surface. Dati pinapalinis pa yun ng nanay ko every day sa maid kasi may pagka-OA siya sa linis. I told her that it'll just scrape the clear coat off. Since nagasgasan yung car though, I took on the task of cleaning it. Lalo na ngayon since it just got painted.

Well since malapit na tag-ulan, I'll probably be cleaning it just once to twice a week. Sayang pagod ko kung lilinis ko tapos babagyuhin lang a few hours after haha.

*renz
Magkano ba pa clear vinyl? Haha feeling ko I'm not ready to spend that much for detailing yet

Thing with clear vinyls, you can just pour water and wipe the dust off without worrying much about the paint.

No idea, jut. Maybe jhnkvn has, since he previously inquired about it. And, the figures he'd give you would most likely be more expensive than the cost to wrap your Altis since his car is a Sonata.

[vinj]

Having the car parked outside, I notice that even just half a day after cleaning it, I could already feel dust accumulating on the surface.:

When i have to go to an office along EDSA and park my car for a couple of hours, the dust and pollution particles are quite mind boggling. If it rains, it really smudges on the paint of the white car and i have to wax it just to remove it.

[jasperjugan]

Hi sorry for the newbie question.

So if we won't be doing new paint protection what are the recommended steps instead (i.e. month 1 sealer, month 2 wax, month 3 rest)

Thanks!

[joms]

Buhayin ko lang ulit etong thread na eto...

what if your car will be exposed sa sunlight from 8am to 5pm? (office hours). What is the best thing to do? Hindi kasi talaga malalagyan ng bubong kasi public parking space lang yung pinaparadahan ko sa office.

Is paint protection the best thing to do? I know sabi ng iba walang magagawa ang PP pag naka bilad din yung kotse mo so ano suggestions nyo then?

Thanks

[jhnkvn]

Sa umpisa lang yan brader renz after a while you'll be detailing once a week nalang.. and before you know it, once every two weeks..

As for the vinyl wrap, yes.. it would prevent premature discoloration due to sunlight. Dati tinanong ko yun question sa isang friend ko that distributes and offers foiling services (aside from Foil-a-car)

[renzo_d10]

Sa umpisa lang yan brader renz after a while you'll be detailing once a week nalang.. and before you know it, once every two weeks..

As for the vinyl wrap, yes.. it would prevent premature discoloration due to sunlight. Dati tinanong ko yun question sa isang friend ko that distributes and offers foiling services (aside from Foil-a-car)

Sorry correction, twice a month pala. Not twice a week.
Would that be enough?

[cjv_justice]

Sorry correction, twice a month pala. Not twice a week.
Would that be enough?

oks na yan bro.

[vinj]

^Depends also on how exposed the car is to the elements. If most of the time its in the garage even waxing once a month or longer will still suffice. Just make sure you go to a carwash that does the wash procedure properly.

[vinj]

Kung magpapagawa ka sa iba since tamad ka mag DIY, try setting a deal with your car wash/detail shop if they can give you a special rate for labor only if you bring your own wax.

[jhnkvn]

Mahal ang clear vinyl wrap.. well, it's more of blame their profit taking since the industry is a high margin business. Go to Foil-a-car and it'll readily cost around 80 grand. My friend's clear foil is around 30-40k I believe since my quoted price tag for a matte white car is 70 grand (opposed to Foil-a-car Manila's 100k+ )

As paint protection, I don't really advocate using vinyl wraps. They're more for "show" really and costs haven't gone down much yet. Kung gusto mo protection and do not mind being a bit ricey, get those carbon vinyl wraps... mura lang yun since madami ricers sa streets (more demand = more supply = drives costs down)

What I advocate are durable waxes and sealants. There are sealants that offer long-term protection such as Optimum's Opticoat (which adds somewhat like a thin additional clearcoat to your paint) or HD Nitro (it's a bit more exotic but exterior detail prices WITH it is at 5,000php.. not bad for year-long protection IMO). The thing about long-term protection is that I can't seem to love them. I get fidgety if I don't do my detailing regimen quarterly :naughty2:

If you want to lessen dust accumulation, you'll be looking for anti-static detailing products. It's because just driving around Metro Manila or after your hand-buffing session, your car is accumulating a static charge that attracts dust. As I'm not sure of which products have anti-static properties, you should ask the more seasoned detailing gurus out there such as umi000. I tried before Optimum's OID/OGE combo and it does have anti-static properties.. while my 1 gallon Nanosliq isn't (it actually turns the car more of a dust magnet). For the everyday man, just get a Microtex duster and re-wax the tips bi-annually or so ;)

Of course, once it rains... wala ka magagawa doon. If you're under a wax or sealant, first thing you'll notice are two properties: beading and sheeting. You'll love sheeting properties if it's raining as it reduces the amount of water ON the car. To prevent waterspots and dirt to accumulate, my usual routine is to simply hose the car down after a rain shower. I'm thinking of importing this technology nga eh: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7is6r6zXFDc]Ross Nanotechnology's NeverWet superhydrophobic spray-on coating - YouTube[/ame] for industrial purposes (textile kami.. iniisip ko waterproof clothing LOL!) but it might also suffice for automotive use haha!

[redvin]

Just paid my reservation for a new innova g earlier. The agent said free paint protection na daw (3m), would anyone know if it differs from the new car paint protection offered by detailers? (i.e. big berts).

I was planning to bring the car to big berts as soon as i get the unit.

Thanks in advance...

[indiej]

Check their previous work and if that doesn't suit you go to big bert's.

To answer the thread question, it is necessary. In fact, the new car needs some correction before the protection. They wait outside as you wait for them . Sometimes stocked like this Unsold Cars Around The World - Business Insider

[April_Ryan]

Newbie question:

Just got a new car, had paint sealant applied.

1. Is this a one time thing, or am I supposed to have it paint sealed every year, quarter, 2x a year?
2. What does paint sealant have to do with waxing the car? Based on the (very long) detailing threads here , my understanding is that paint sealant is like wax, but provides longer protection. It also appears that sealant and wax can go together, so long as sealant is applied first, and then wax, not the other way around. Tama ba?
3. If already paint sealed, how often can car be waxed? monthly? quarterly?

[ronki]

Newbie question:

Just got a new car, had paint sealant applied.

1. Is this a one time thing, or am I supposed to have it paint sealed every year, quarter, 2x a year?
2. What does paint sealant have to do with waxing the car? Based on the (very long) detailing threads here , my understanding is that paint sealant is like wax, but provides longer protection. It also appears that sealant and wax can go together, so long as sealant is applied first, and then wax, not the other way around. Tama ba?
3. If already paint sealed, how often can car be waxed? monthly? quarterly?

If you applied for a paint protection program (i.e. big berts) I suggest be religious to it, never ever be late for a scheduled session because it will void your program.

1. In our weather, sealants can last up to 3-4 months (maybe less in a rainy season).
2. Sealant first then wax.
3. Depends on what wax you are using, some only last after a carwash or after a rain, some last for weeks, even months.

indiej is right, have it corrected first because brand new cars are often stored in open areas (toyota balintawak stores it in a bldg rooftop, you can see it if you ride the lrt)

Dealers will just "prep" the car when it is sold, a not so good carwash then some polishing/glaze.

[Pipefish]

The frequency of application depends on how durable the wax is -- that is, by how well it can resist a car wash or the rain.

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[April_Ryan]

I only got a one-time paint protection/sealant - not a program which requires me to go back every so often.

So if it can last 3 months, I can have car waxed after 3 months? Or puwede sooner?

[ronki]

I only got a one-time paint protection/sealant - not a program which requires me to go back every so often.

So if it can last 3 months, I can have car waxed after 3 months? Or puwede sooner?

Yeah sure, pwede na patungan ng wax ang sealant after 24 hours.