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[mackkcam]

may nakta na kami:
- KYB Shocks
- di ko alam ung brand ng Springs, pero hindi ako mag H&R, too much for me,
- kelangan ko ba ng shock mounting kung konti lng ang ibaba? front at back ba? ang sabi front lng daw 2pcs? sa rear hindi na?

* bka sa Zee na ako magpagwa nung mga camber, tie rods, etc.. or kung di kaya ng talyer sa amin ung lowering, bka sa Zee na lng din, kaso un nga, mapapagas2s ako sa labor eh, Update ko tong post ko if may Prices na pinatawag ko na ung source ko kung magkanu makkuha eh, hehe

[1D4LV]

may nakta na kami:
- KYB Shocks
- di ko alam ung brand ng Springs, pero hindi ako mag H&R, too much for me,
- kelangan ko ba ng shock mounting kung konti lng ang ibaba? front at back ba? ang sabi front lng daw 2pcs? sa rear hindi na?

* bka sa Zee na ako magpagwa nung mga camber, tie rods, etc.. or kung di kaya ng talyer sa amin ung lowering, bka sa Zee na lng din, kaso un nga, mapapagas2s ako sa labor eh, Update ko tong post ko if may Prices na pinatawag ko na ung source ko kung magkanu makkuha eh, hehe

hindi mo na kailangan ng shock mounting. the lowering springs will be placed in lieu of your stock springs and that is it.

bakit front lang? "tukod" look yun. ano ba oto mo ulit?

[mackkcam]

HOnda City Exi 97,
panung tukod?

OK Cge confirm ko, bkt ganun hindi nila alam ung Coil-Over, nung nag tanung ako, di daw nila alam un, pero may KYB rin ba na coil over?ang alam ko sa H&R meron nun eh, kaso magkanu naman kaya un?

So di ko na kelangan ng shock mounting ha? just shocks and coils lng, labas muna ung mga camber at bushings? tama ba? Or

pag naka Stock or OeM na coils ako, kelangan ko rin kumuha ng shock mounting? pag ung coil may ksmang lifter?? pwede ko rin ba ilower un, kahit 1" drop lng, kc ngaun sa current suspension ko, ung lifter sagad na toh the lowest part na pwede nyang pag lagyan, kaya Lowered look ung itsura, pero i want to go Lower!!

[1D4LV]

HOnda City Exi 97,
panung tukod? tukod...naka angat ang pwet, naka subsob ang harap. parang yung stock design ng lancer singkit dati..

OK Cge confirm ko, bkt ganun hindi nila alam ung Coil-Over, nung nag tanung ako, di daw nila alam un, pero may KYB rin ba na coil over?ang alam ko sa H&R meron nun eh, kaso magkanu naman kaya un? afaik, walang coil-overs ang KYB.

So di ko na kelangan ng shock mounting ha? just shocks and coils lng, labas muna ung mga camber at bushings? tama ba? Or hindi na..pero if you would lower the car, you need camber or wheel alignment. your bushings, if wala namang unnecessary sounds sa ilalim (kalampag), they are still ok.

pag naka Stock or OeM na coils ako, kelangan ko rin kumuha ng shock mounting? pag ung coil may ksmang lifter?? pwede ko rin ba ilower un, kahit 1" drop lng, kc ngaun sa current suspension ko, ung lifter sagad na toh the lowest part na pwede nyang pag lagyan, kaya Lowered look ung itsura, pero i want to go Lower!! di ko magets ito...yung shock mounts are the mounts used to install your shocks and springs, so you don't need one. shock mounts will last the lifetime of your car. bakit lowered look ang itsura? naibaba na ba yang baso mo before?

my replies above.

[mackkcam]

anu ung AFAIK?

yep, i would lower my ride, just for 1.5" lng, may sounds, malakas nga ang kalampag sa Back pero di obvious, kc malakas sounds eh, haha

ah ic, so hindi na kelangan ung shock mounts?? pero pag may tama na palit na rin, hehe
Anung Baso? ung lifter? kung ung lifter, uu, wala pang 1" ung gap nya sa tire, pero hindi naman sumasayad sa tire ung lifter kahit sa humps or what, cguro 3.5" finger gap xa, using 195x15x50 tires (will switch to x55)..

Paraut gas shocks 2,350/pc
spring coil - unknown pa ung brand pati price - 600-700, no lifters
shock mounts - 650 ata/pc

Mura na ba yan or ok na yan? sabi kc may discount na ako eh, tyka ok na ba yang mga parts na yan, any suggestion sa spring coils? ung brand, for lowering, ayaw ko naman kc ng Putol coil eh, thanks

[mackkcam]

ung mga camber, bushings, at etc... sa Zee na lng tlga, bbile pa ako mags at new Tires eh, parehistro pa ng car, bad3p dami gas2s hehe

Add ko na rin anu ung IHMO?

[darksword_08]

H&R coilover is worth 16K+ nagtanong na ko,, kaso tight talaga budget kya OEM shocks nalang binili ko tapos bumili din ako ng OEM spring putol ko ng 1 ikot para magnose drop

[mackkcam]

*darksword,
san ka nagtanung, kc nung na-Sum ko na lahat bale 3k (shocks+coil) x 4 = 12k, atleast yun? 4k lng difference H&R pa, anu ba difference ng CoilOver sa shocks+coil, i mean may kasama na bang shock mounts yan? or what??
dude place mo na rin ung kontacts ha,

[mackkcam]

if budget constraints, plan is:
1. Buy 2 bnew shocks (rear)
2. go to zee, for them to make the installation, fixed what is to be fixed(tie rod, bushings, camber, etc...., convert my front shocks and lower the car.
*Note: ipaconvert ko muna ung front kc wala pang budget for 4pcs shocks, tyka ok pa naman ung front, cguro fix fix na lng muna,
-pero ok lng ba un kung may Leak na sa Shock absorber? maggwa kaya ng Zee un?

[1D4LV]

anu ung AFAIK? - As Far As I Know.

yep, i would lower my ride, just for 1.5" lng, may sounds, malakas nga ang kalampag sa Back pero di obvious, kc malakas sounds eh, haha

ah ic, so hindi na kelangan ung shock mounts?? pero pag may tama na palit na rin, hehe. Normally, what you replace are shock mount bushings or bearings. Depende sa shock mount mo yan. But the entire mounts are not replaced, unless may biyak na.
Anung Baso? - baso is where the shocks and the springs settle. yun yung parang sumasalo sa shocks/springs. kung wala yung baso, hindi magsesettle yung height ng car. ung lifter? a lifter is some sort of rubber stopper that you put between the springs/shocks and the shock mounts. the purpose of this is to lift the car. kung ung lifter, uu, wala pang 1" ung gap nya sa tire, pero hindi naman sumasayad sa tire ung lifter kahit sa humps or what, cguro 3.5" finger gap xa, using 195x15x50 tires (will switch to x55)..

Paraut gas shocks 2,350/pc
spring coil - unknown pa ung brand pati price - 600-700, no lifters
shock mounts - 650 ata/pc

Mura na ba yan or ok na yan? based on the price above, the shocks is on the normal cost. yung spring coil, i think its a replacement stock coil. hindi lowered yan, imho. sabi kc may discount na ako eh, tyka ok na ba yang mga parts na yan, any suggestion sa spring coils? ung brand, for lowering, ayaw ko naman kc ng Putol coil eh, thanks

replies above.

[1D4LV]

ung mga camber, bushings, at etc... sa Zee na lng tlga, bbile pa ako mags at new Tires eh, parehistro pa ng car, bad3p dami gas2s hehe

Add ko na rin anu ung IHMO?

IMHO - in my humble opinion.

[1D4LV]

H&R coilover is worth 16K+ nagtanong na ko,, kaso tight talaga budget kya OEM shocks nalang binili ko tapos bumili din ako ng OEM spring putol ko ng 1 ikot para magnose drop

ask ko lang bro... how is the ride ng isang ikot na putol?

[1D4LV]

*darksword,
san ka nagtanung, kc nung na-Sum ko na lahat bale 3k (shocks+coil) x 4 = 12k, atleast yun? 4k lng difference H&R pa, anu ba difference ng CoilOver sa shocks+coil, i mean may kasama na bang shock mounts yan? or what??
dude place mo na rin ung kontacts ha,

ang coilover, isang device lang o integrated ang shocks sa coil compared to the lowering springs + shocks where you get two separate devices.

bro... so you can get an idea on how a vehicle suspension works, please check this link... read it thoroughly... http://www.carbibles.com/suspension_bible.html

aside from that, coilovers allow you to increase/decrease the height of the car using some special tools lang.

[1D4LV]

some of the things that you may want to know/read about suspensions:

http://www.trinituner.com/shop/coilover.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coilover
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_(vehicle)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_absorber
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...n_technologies

[mackkcam]

pero what would you prefer for suspension? coil-over or shock+coil combo?
kc I cant decide tlga kung, kc konti lng difference, ang Plan ko lng tlga (pero pde pa mag change) is:
REAR:
buy 2 bnew shocks (will be installed by Zee)
Stock coil (will be repaired and Cutted by Zee)
etc (will be done by Zee)

FRONT:
convert/maintain stock Shocks (by Zee)
Stock coil (will be repaired and Cutted by Zee)
etc (will be done by Zee)

* yan lng, pero kung konti lng kc difference sa mga bagong shocks, y not ung bagong shocks na lng, hayz,
* salamat, let me read it first, hehe

[mackkcam]

Add ko na lng din, anu ba maganda na brand ng shocks, pero not too pricey... takiko, paraut, Kayaba, or etc,, wag muna bilstein, di kya maxado, pero how much na rin for that?
balak ko kc is coil over na lng, para mas Ok? isang bilihan na lng, hehe

[1D4LV]

pero what would you prefer for suspension? coil-over or shock+coil combo?
kc I cant decide tlga kung, kc konti lng difference, ang Plan ko lng tlga (pero pde pa mag change) is:
REAR:
buy 2 bnew shocks (will be installed by Zee)
Stock coil (will be repaired and Cutted by Zee)
etc (will be done by Zee)

FRONT:
convert/maintain stock Shocks (by Zee)
Stock coil (will be repaired and Cutted by Zee)
etc (will be done by Zee)

* yan lng, pero kung konti lng kc difference sa mga bagong shocks, y not ung bagong shocks na lng, hayz,
* salamat, let me read it first, hehe

if money is not a problem. coil-overs na talaga ako...
your plan stated above, looks good. but i really do not recomment cut springs, lalo na kung more than one ikot ang putol.

[1D4LV]

Add ko na lng din, anu ba maganda na brand ng shocks, pero not too pricey... takiko, paraut, Kayaba, or etc,, wag muna bilstein, di kya maxado, pero how much na rin for that?
balak ko kc is coil over na lng, para mas Ok? isang bilihan na lng, hehe

KYB is the cheapest and i also recommend it.

[mackkcam]

Cge hanap ako, meron sa Zee ng kyb gas type eh, pero tingin muna ako bka mas mura pa aqng mabilhan, Gas shock na lng noh? tpos pwede ko kaya pabawasan ng PSI un, AFAIK ang sabi stiff ride daw pag KYB gas type eh, drop by ako zee this lunch time and mag aask na tlga ako, hehe

pero ok na ba ung plan? shocks na lng ppalitan ko, paparestore and cut ko na lng ung stock springs sa zee, then ung front shocks papaconvert ko na lng sa Zee?

Feedbacks naman sa convert ng shocks ng zee, stiff ba ung ride??? or etc...

Thanks,

OT: di ka nagOnline kagabi noh? inaantay ko reply mo eh,

[1D4LV]

Cge hanap ako, meron sa Zee ng kyb gas type eh, pero tingin muna ako bka mas mura pa aqng mabilhan, Gas shock na lng noh? tpos pwede ko kaya pabawasan ng PSI un, AFAIK ang sabi stiff ride daw pag KYB gas type eh, drop by ako zee this lunch time and mag aask na tlga ako, hehe

pero ok na ba ung plan? shocks na lng ppalitan ko, paparestore and cut ko na lng ung stock springs sa zee, then ung front shocks papaconvert ko na lng sa Zee?

Feedbacks naman sa convert ng shocks ng zee, stiff ba ung ride??? or etc...

Thanks,

OT: di ka nagOnline kagabi noh? inaantay ko reply mo eh,

bro..

first, ok na mag gas shocks ka na today, dahil magpapalower ka din naman.
second, hindi adjustable ang pressure ng KYBs or any brand new gas shocks. ang adjustable pressured gas shocks as far as i know, are those only repaired or converted by zee or cruven. if you take a look at a brand new gas shock, wala syang valve, but if you take a look on zee/cruven converted shock, may valve sya, which they use to fill in with nitrogen, or remove nitrogen.
i still advise going on putol, so if you have other options, DON'T DO IT. you have two options on lowering: install a lowering spring or have the "baso" converted.

on the ride of cruven's converted shocks, ok naman sya... when i was lowered, i had it filled with 70 psi to compensate for the stiffness of my lowering springs. now that my car is on stock height and springs, i'm on 60 psi.