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    Hi guys, I am new to this and I would like to ask for advise regarding re-painting, we have an old imported Lucida van and I would like to have it re-painted. I really love to see it look like new something like a wet look paint. What is the usual price range I should consider and what are the shops in Quezon City or manila that offer the best quality paint job but at a very reasonable price, and is it still possible to make it look super shiny?

    Thanks in advance for any reply!

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    at the average of 25-30k for strip to metal.

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    Lucida van would cost you at least 30k, same color repainting. If change color, add 10k or more.

    Remember, you will always get what you pay for.

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    Hi guys! Thanks for the replies, mahal pala pag Lucida van... anyway if it is strip to metal would that make the vehicle look new again? I might check Alex Restoration, however, I have a feeling it is more expensive than others. Do you guys know of other shop that provides re-painting service around Quezon City?

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    Bring it to AutoRx Carworks at 111 Kamuning Road, QC for an estimate.

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    The quality of repainting first depends on the skill of the one doing it. Preparation is key.. and this is also why stripping to metal is preferred. It gives the talyer a "blank canvas" to work with. Factors such as trying to trying to get as close to original OEM paint (on washovers) is usually based on the experience of the talyer in mixing paint to get the correct blend.

    Sa totoo, there's no such thing as a "best" paint job at a "reasonable" price. Economics will dictate that if the talyer is good and that there's a constant stream of customers.. the most reasonable way is to simply jack up the price to equal that of the utility of your workmanship.

    There are some who does oven-baked, dust-free environments but... this isn't really much of a requisite in getting quality paint. It helps though like that of closed aircon-ed tinting rooms because it prevents contamination. However, like with the tints, sa skill and experience parin yan ng tao.

    My suking talyer is HMT Motorworks near C3, Quezon City. We go to them from repainting to collision repairs since I know the owner personally and.. well.. I appreciate their pricing naman with regards to the work done.

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    If its first time repainting, DONT strip the paint to metal.
    Stripping it to metal will expose the steel to the environment even though its oven baked blah blah blah.. and iba ang kapit ng oem primer and metal panels are chemically treated sa planta so stripping it upto the metal will also strip the chemical/coating
    If you notice, mas madameng back job tuwing "strip to metal" mas bumubula..

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreenThing View Post
    If its first time repainting, DONT strip the paint to metal.
    Stripping it to metal will expose the steel to the environment even though its oven baked blah blah blah.. and iba ang kapit ng oem primer and metal panels are chemically treated sa planta so stripping it upto the metal will also strip the chemical/coating
    If you notice, mas madameng back job tuwing "strip to metal" mas bumubula..
    But even if you expose it to the environment, hindi mo naman problema corrosion on a short-term basis. For a newer car which is first-owned, I would understand the need of not stripping it down. The car's OEM finish is one of the best "canvass" for painting is because it was applied with perfect preparation on billion-dollar factories who churn them en-masse (kung may mali sa painting nila, sobrang sakit sa bottom line nila when warranty returns comes in.. so they have to do it right.)

    However, for an old car, much of the original paint has been weathered through the ages na. How much layer-over-layer repainting has been done? How about the eventual rusting? This is why the very best automotive restorations would require a strip to metal approach -- it gives them a blank canvass to do what they need. This is also the reason why most show cars of Concours_d' Elegance go for this route -- simply layering paint over paint will create an uneven paint preparation in some areas for example. Of course, you also have more labor and more costs if you do strip it.

    Still, repainting is.. like I said... highly skill-dependent. There's a reason why Alex Restoration charges a lot more than your typical talyer.
    Last edited by jhnkvn; January 28th, 2014 at 08:33 PM.

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    for a 12 year old car, recommended na ba ipa-strip to metal? or just get standard wash-over service? this car has no rust problem yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red_one View Post
    for a 12 year old car, recommended na ba ipa-strip to metal? or just get standard wash-over service? this car has no rust problem yet.
    No. Just do a re-spray or paint over. The old paint is much better than local kahit naka oven pa yan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quint View Post
    No. Just do a re-spray or paint over. The old paint is much better than local kahit naka oven pa yan.
    Pasensiya na, bubuhayin ko lang thread na 'to. Interested in having my old Camry 2003 repainted, but looking at my options. What would a respray or paint over do? Parang touchup ba yun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quint View Post
    No. Just do a re-spray or paint over. The old paint is much better than local kahit naka oven pa yan.
    Nasa magkano po pag paint over lang? Kahit estimate lang.

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    People ask to strip metal kasi para makuha yung "kanto" ng body/panels.. para hindi mag mukhang mataba and theres a big chance na bumigat ang panels mo dahil evenly sprayed ang primer sa car manufacturers unlike sa mga manual paint shops.

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    Pag sedan around 25k yan pag AUV/SUV around 35k.

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    Dependa doon sa rust problem ng car mo. Kasi dati nung nag pa repaint ako, umabot ng 30k + kasi nagpapalit din ako seal/gasket ng windshield na sila na nagsource and naglagay. Pero wala akong rust problem that time.

    That was like 10 years ago. And the car was a civic ek. Job was done by x5 makati. Wala ako alam sa qc paint shops

    I reckon mas malaki na nowadays especially pag may latero na involved.

    do what you gotta do so you can do what you wanna do
    Last edited by baludoy; July 27th, 2020 at 12:47 PM.

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    Once ma-strip to metal yang car mo... maglalabasan problems nya (it's a 20+ year old car)

    I suggest you bring it to a shop... and magdagdag ka ng 15K sa kung ano mang estimate na ibibigay syo.

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    Thanks guys for the advice.

    Pa quote ko na muna. I think not worth the money for an old car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesto View Post
    Thanks guys for the advice.

    Pa quote ko na muna. I think not worth the money for an old car.
    that depends.

    if you are going to re-paint it so's you can get a better price... check the competition, first. baka lugi kayo sa pag-pinta. it might be better to just sell it, as is.

    if you are re-painting it with intention to use it afterward, instead of buying a more expensive car... it may not be as bad a move as initially seemed.

    if you intend to spend a huge amount of money to restore it to concours...
    it's a labor of love and i don't question labors of love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    that depends.

    if you are going to re-paint it so's you can get a better price... check the competition, first. baka lugi kayo sa pag-pinta. it might be better to just sell it, as is.

    if you are re-painting it with intention to use it afterward, instead of buying a more expensive car... it may not be as bad a move as initially seemed.

    if you intend to spend a huge amount of money to restore it to concours...
    it's a labor of love and i don't question labors of love.
    Thanks doc.

    We are panning to use it as spare lang naman.

    The quote is almost the price of the resale value

what is the acceptable price range for re-painting old vehicles?