DuPont Automotive Paints

[Ungas]

Has anyone tired this brand? What is the difference compared to others like acrylic and urethane paints?

[theveed]

duPont ang isa sa mga OEM paint refinishers na kilala... like always, i suggest shopping for a painter is more important than the paint used but going back to the topic... personally, if you like the OEM finish look, duPont (and Sikkens) seems to give a more consistent result than PPG... Most cars that we have serviced na nagpa PPG halata na repainted na yung car. Not to say that the paint is bad or substandard, it's just that duPont refinished cars seems to have a more "original paint" look regardless of orange peel amount, finishing or otherwise... But if your painter is good, you can't go wrong with any high quality urethane paint brands.

[Ungas]

So you would advise I have it strip to metal then redo the paint process instead of a washover with the said brand?

[kimpOy]

in addition dupont has a updated database of all automotive and non automotive finishes.
i have 3 "as a big as a library dictionary", colorbooks.
and dupont phils send CD-roms of updated formula of ALL colors every quarter of the year.

unlike PPG and Sikkens, Dupont offers acrylic paint (Lucite400) for those on a budget.

[kimpOy]

ungas as what theveed said mas orig look pa nga yung na repaint or touchup na dupont,

but minsan nasa paintor din eh.

[Ungas]

Yung pintor kasi ang bumanat ng 4x4 show trucks, balak ko lang sana, hehehe. :D

Para di masayang pintura, balak ko pa-strip down then start with DuPont all over again.

[theveed]

Ungas... personally i never suggest strip to metal... as much as possible leave the factory primer on kasi ibang iba ang kapit ng factory primer, as soon as you strip that malaki-laki chance na magkakarust spots ka kasi di naman O2 free ang mga work area dito eh... Strip to primer lang pwede na...

[Ungas]

Oh ok, strip to primer pala dapat. :D I'll remind myself next time.

[empy]

i have used both dupont and ppg paint and i can't explain it but i do seem to get better results with dupont - it's like the clearcoat is easier to mix perfectly and seems to spray on more evenly and with more consistency.

dupont makes both acrylic and urethane paints - however, i would always paint with urethane because it's so much more durable and easy to get that deep finish.

sikkens, on the other hand, sometimes gets a bad rap as a 'soft' (i.e. easily chipped or scratched) paint, but i personally did not observe this as being true.

imo your top three readily available paints are dupont, sikkens and glasurit.

[theveed]

with paint, there's the issue of hard paint vs soft paint... With hard paint, it doesn't swirl/scratch as easily as soft paint... but with hard paint, a light body dent can easily cause a crack on the paint as opposed to a soft paint which can be popped back with minimal paint damage and doesn't chip as easily when hit by a pebble... That's why the US car owners usually "complain" that German paints are soft compared to US/Jap paints... The Germans say that it's because their paint is mixed to be soft so that highway (autobahn) road chips won't damage the car as much... or so they say...

[artpogi]

Sir Ungas pasingit po,

alin po ba ang mas mura yung urethane or yung acrylic and what would you recommend?

Sorry po la po akong alam sa car paints eh, thanks

[nap123]

alam ko urethane kasi matibay. Saan store pala makakabili ng Dopunt paint? Meron ba bandang alabang or paranaque?

[kimpOy]

nap123,
call highland trading (pasig) 631-0640
and ask the paint shop near you.

or

pm me he..he (kaso pampanga pa ang shop ko)

[nap123]

thanks kimpoy nacontact ko na meron dito sa may betterliving

[woodfire]

i used dupont in the repainting (change color) of my pajero. I am now using sikkens for the washover of my E36.

in terms of depth of shine(car s how shine as they say), dupont beats sikkens hands down. the same painter (a lebanese national) did both my pajero and E36.

[empy]

artpogi, in general mas mahal ang urethane, which is a two-stage (basecoat/clearcoat) process because it involves more expensive materials and more effort by the painter, but is hands-down more durable, easier to keep looking nice, and in general better-looking (although i have seen fantastic-looking acrylic and even lacquer jobs).

i would always go urethane if the budget allows it

[theveed]

M54: Not sure with this, but diba OEM ng mga bright red is a urethane single stage (clear mixed with base coat)... All the bright red cars weve worked with has factory single stage urethane (BMW Z3, 2001 Civic, F150, etc)

But it's true, if you're gonna spend anyway, go urethane, less headaches down the road in terms of fading and UV resistance.

[kimpOy]

both dupont urethane (centari600) and Acrylic (lucite400) are 2 stage process (base coat + clearcoat)

for solid urethane colors (non metallic) dupont offers a different kind of urethane binder (Centari 501) kahit wala ng clearcoat ito super kintab na pero i always suggest to have it clearcoated for added protection.

[artpogi]

Sirs M54/Kimpoy/theveed,

thanks for the info, really really helpfull

PS OT- Sir Kimpoy,

Saan po ang shop mo sa Pampanga, name and address po pwede? We go to Pampanga dahil taga doon si Esmi, normally po San Simon/San Fernando and sometimes Angeles.

thanks po ulit.

[empy]

theveed - i'm not sure either, since my experience is primarily with refinishing, not oem...and quite honestly, it was more than 7 years ago when i changed careers. however, if memory serves me correctly, i know ford for sure used a one-stage urethane for a while with their solid reds - so i'm sure you are right (although i don't know if it's all oem reds). however, i used exclusively urethane paint for all my refinishing jobs, including reds.

kimpoy - yes, you are correct. but there's one detail that always causes confusion - dupont lucite is an acrylic lacquer, which is designed to be used as a 2 stage with clearcoat (i forgot about acrylic lacquers because they have been banned for a while here in the states because of environmental concerns)...when i said 'acrylic' in my previous post, i was referring to acrylic enamels, which are single stage and not as good as the 2-stagers. acrylic enamel is typically what your low-cost painters use

dupont centari is, as you say, a 2-stage urethane paint. thank you for the clarification.