Detailing Thread [For Newbies][continued]

[Chikselog]

*SG
Siguro di pa tanggal yung 476. Marumi lang talaga yung oto kaya di nagbebead.

What I mean by beading like crazy is yung beading nya, yung nasa kumbaga "optimum level" pa. Tight water beading, talagang bilog bilog. Iba kasi yung beading kapag bagong lagay eh.

*sir jm
Siguro dahil sa kakapunas ko every night na naulanan yung oto. Try ko na lang yung sinabi mo sakin na hayaan lang marumi until the next wash.

Di kasi ako sanay na marumi ang oto kapag papasok eh. Usually gabi na ako nakakauwi then the next day maaga pasok, no time to wash.

Ano technique nyo para matanggal wax sa MF? Pakuluan? Kasi yung mga fibers ng mga MF ko nagdidikit dikit. Di tulad nung kay sir Edwin ang lambot pa rin.

[jmpet626]

Baka nga sir.


for sealants klasse/carlack twins pa din

[kafph2000]

Ano technique nyo para matanggal wax sa MF? Pakuluan? Kasi yung mga fibers ng mga MF ko nagdidikit dikit. Di tulad nung kay sir Edwin ang lambot pa rin.

Yung sakin kasi, kung hindi joy, surf anti-bacterial. After ilang months na pambuff ng 476, malambot parin at parang bago. Okay lang kaya ang mga detergents na to, or masyado matapang?
Ayus walang pasok bukas, mabanatan nga ng wax ang kotse hihihi

[jmpet626]

Gamit ko sa MF towels at pads yung plantex na all purpose cleaner/degreaser at lukewarm water.. babad lang mga 10 mins then banlaw.

[kafph2000]

Baka nga sir.


for sealants klasse/carlack twins pa din

Sir, magkano at saan nkakabili ng mga 'to?

[PSI]

*chicks...... tara punta tayo kina master kuha tayo sealant

[madkatz]

it sure is effective...very effective...no hard rubbing needed, just apply using a circular motion with a sponge (and the stains and dirt come loose)...then just wipe off with a clean cotton cloth...i have never used a product that easy...and it is very mild that I used to soak several items in it to see corrosion, and it didn't "rot" any of them..so it is mild I guess...
Manufacturer is E.N.I. Industries located in Obrero Tondo Manila...not a known brand but very effective and safe.....ingredients niya is pine oil (80%), 10% carnauba (wrong spelling pa yung nasa label), and 10% water...yung mga na-embed na na mga dumi (yung tipong nagkulay black na sa mga vinyl interior panels/trims...kayang kaya niya tanggalin with very light pressure applied (hindi kaya ng wipeout)...parang bago na uli yung interior (except sa carpet and headliner, di pa ako nakakadiscover ng magandang brand eh)...consistency niya is parang tubig at tinunaw na perla (hindi kaya yun lang ang formula nun hehe)
Ito po sya:

wow i'd like to get my hands on some of those and really give it a shot

[madkatz]

^
Uy ganyan din yung pinapa-try sa akin ng pinsan ko! I dunno if parehong-pareho ng product pero very very similar siya. Same packaging and label. Photocopy lang yung label. And it still has that mispelled "carnova" instead of carnauba. Baka nga iyan na yun. Ganda pala nyan, hehe tinamad akong i-try kasi I admit medyo na-turn off ako sa packaging/labeling. Hehe sorry manufacturer!

*mam madkatz
Yan po kamo yung interior cleaner na sinasabi ko po dati kay sir Edwin, I dunno if he still recalls it. If I find time I'll bring it over to his place na rin para ma-try po ninyo. Hehe

Hey migz try to bring it over some time, im sure my BF will also be ecstatic to try it out, who knows it might just be another great product out there sitting to be discovered

[madkatz]

Ms. Madkatz I noticed some micro-marring on my hood after I used Megs Step 2 to fill a light scratch. I used a clean microfiber cloth to apply it. I'm wondering how I marred it knowing that Step 2 is clear coat safe even when machine-applied.

The panel used to have Carlack AIO + SG on it. How can I remove the marred spot? I'm due for Optiguard re-application next month. Do you think it can still be removed?

Actually Megs 2 isn't really a filler its an ultra fine polish, hmm well if its really really light then Opti-guard might be able to remove it, they use a rotary buffer for applying and buffing off KAIO which has very very slight cutting abilities

[madkatz]

Bakit ganun kabilis mawala yung beading ng 476S, chikselog?

KSG nalang bilihin mong sealant. Pero mas ok din kung meron kang KAIO para yun muna before KSG.

yup thats one of the toughest sealants definitely and also one of the most economical, BTW have you tried the AG SRP?

[madkatz]

I also plan to buy a sealant.. Ano nga ba maganda guys?

Klasse/Carlack Twins
Bigberts has this, i dunno if my BF still has some stocks though but i hope he doesn't hear this, i wouldn't recommend you buy from him even if he has some stocks because what he has is the liter sizes which is good for more than 70 applications so its gonna take some time to use it all up

DP Poli-coat
Sort of like KSG but a little less durable, good thing is because its cheap with their promo right now, but with this sealant you also need a cleaner sealant for it to bond properly

WGDGPS
One of our current favorites especially if polycharged, it looks really wet and warm, as for durability, polycharged version is as good as KSG

Blackfire Wet Diamond Finish
One of the slickest sealants out there and also one of our favorites, this sealant so far gave us the most reflectivity

Zaino
If my Bf's current favorite is WGDGPS, this is my current favorite, its very expensive though, about twice the price of most sealants but is definitely easier to apply especially with ZFX, its durability is much like klasse but definitely looks better

All the other sealant above have to be ordered online, but if you know someone coming over, its well worth to have your bottle shipped, they're some of the best out there, Rejex and 4 star are also great products to order

but over all if its being economical and a proven and time tested sealant KSG takes the lead.

[madkatz]

*SG
Siguro di pa tanggal yung 476. Marumi lang talaga yung oto kaya di nagbebead.

What I mean by beading like crazy is yung beading nya, yung nasa kumbaga "optimum level" pa. Tight water beading, talagang bilog bilog. Iba kasi yung beading kapag bagong lagay eh.

*sir jm
Siguro dahil sa kakapunas ko every night na naulanan yung oto. Try ko na lang yung sinabi mo sakin na hayaan lang marumi until the next wash.

Di kasi ako sanay na marumi ang oto kapag papasok eh. Usually gabi na ako nakakauwi then the next day maaga pasok, no time to wash.

Ano technique nyo para matanggal wax sa MF? Pakuluan? Kasi yung mga fibers ng mga MF ko nagdidikit dikit. Di tulad nung kay sir Edwin ang lambot pa rin.

No boiling of MF's only lukewarm to a bit warm water, heat is bad for MF towels, heat is great for cotton though

[madkatz]

*chicks...... tara punta tayo kina master kuha tayo sealant

Haha yup try and drop by some time, we have some new paint sealants out right now and some really look promising and have passed our tough durability test, some are polycharged as well.

[djoverdose]

Hi guys... ngayon ko lang nakita tong thread na ito.... ngayon lang din ako mag simula mag back read.

Just recently bought a new pick up. so since it has a new paint i wanted to protect it as much as possible... so na pa buying spree ako... sayang nga at ngayon ko lang nakita tong thread na to....

Na OC kasi ako when one time nag pacarwash ako (1st time with the new pickup) yung katabi kong CRV 2nd gen literal napaka kintab... mas makintab pa dun sa new pick up also stock paint pa siya... after the carwash saw him spraying something... upon closer look its mothers reflection spray wax...

so dun ako nag start mag hanap ng product na yun kasi iba talaga kintab eh... wala ako masydo alam dati sa mga ganyan...

so went to blade at dun ko nakita yung mga mothers na product... was just planning to buy that spray wax but ended up buying mothers 1,2,3 step, and 1 QD. akala ko yung QD spary wax hindi pala.... so went back to blade and bought my self meguires ultimate quickwax... after applying them maski masakit sa bulsa I can say naman its worth it... medyo justifiable yung price niya.

iba yung kintab kasi dun sa pick up. mas lumitaw yung color... then just today i bought a clay bar from mothers and 1 swirlX from meguires saka yung reflections topcoat.... yung honda city namin yung tinitira ko ngayon. napabayaan kasi yung paint nun... so far so good.... yung hood, roof at trunk palang nagagawa ko... will take pics of it maybe tomorrow and will post it here.

na try ko din yung microtex pero iba talaga yung spray wax ng meguires....

By the way heres my pick up.

[Nik]

Haha yup try and drop by some time, we have some new paint sealants out right now and some really look promising and have passed our tough durability test, some are polycharged as well.

eto nag pasaya sa araw ko !!! buong araw na pagod at bored.. dito ako natuwa !!

ang plan ko lang kasi ay pumunta ng BB and buy KSG.. natuwa ako dahil may choices na pala para sa sealant.. hindi yung KSG lang sa BB.. maka drop by nga. kasama na din ang budget haha

*migz paki send naman sakin number ni sir ed.. salamat hehe

kelan kaya ma-aayos ang nlex.. kaaway ko ang asphalt kasi eh hindi tuloy ako makapag detail..saka wala pading sealant kasi

[madkatz]

Hi guys... ngayon ko lang nakita tong thread na ito.... ngayon lang din ako mag simula mag back read.

Just recently bought a new pick up. so since it has a new paint i wanted to protect it as much as possible... so na pa buying spree ako... sayang nga at ngayon ko lang nakita tong thread na to....

Na OC kasi ako when one time nag pacarwash ako (1st time with the new pickup) yung katabi kong CRV 2nd gen literal napaka kintab... mas makintab pa dun sa new pick up also stock paint pa siya... after the carwash saw him spraying something... upon closer look its mothers reflection spray wax...

so dun ako nag start mag hanap ng product na yun kasi iba talaga kintab eh... wala ako masydo alam dati sa mga ganyan...

so went to blade at dun ko nakita yung mga mothers na product... was just planning to buy that spray wax but ended up buying mothers 1,2,3 step, and 1 QD. akala ko yung QD spary wax hindi pala.... so went back to blade and bought my self meguires ultimate quickwax... after applying them maski masakit sa bulsa I can say naman its worth it... medyo justifiable yung price niya.

iba yung kintab kasi dun sa pick up. mas lumitaw yung color... then just today i bought a clay bar from mothers and 1 swirlX from meguires saka yung reflections topcoat.... yung honda city namin yung tinitira ko ngayon. napabayaan kasi yung paint nun... so far so good.... yung hood, roof at trunk palang nagagawa ko... will take pics of it maybe tomorrow and will post it here.

na try ko din yung microtex pero iba talaga yung spray wax ng meguires....

By the way heres my pick up.

Thats a nice pick-up, well my best suggestion for you? try to attend a detailing EB one time, it doesn't have to be the one set up by my BF, it could be from fellow forumers, but going there is the best way to try and test out various products before buying them, and you could also see what products they used that delivered the results they wanted, oh yeah if you're gonna use SwirlX for removing scratches and watermarks you can already opt to remove Step 1 from the process, and one other thing, when you apply step 3, wait for 4 to 8 hours before you apply Top Coat, we look forward to the pics and welcome to tsikot detail thread.

[air23]

thanks for the replies mf051404 and madkatz

*djoverdose - ganda ng pickup mo sir. sarap idetail niyan.

mga boss, nililinis niyo ba yung ceiling ng loob ng auto? baka kasi mangitim pag tagal eh pag hindi nalilinis.

[indiej]

guys aside from surf dishwashing liquid, there's also a surf powdered detergent antibac. just a caution cos if it has fabric conditioners, avoid using it on your MF towels.

reepicheep, about your micro marring, if everything was clean and you got a dull haze, you may not have worked the product long enough. test a spot longer. i also forget and call the carlack twins aio and sg. they're called nsc and LLs

djoverdose, this thread can grow 50 pages a month but don't be discouraged reading. if only we could highlight the informative posts, they won't go unnoticed when backreaders skim. gold mines.

[electone]

Klasse/Carlack Twins
Bigberts has this, i dunno if my BF still has some stocks though but i hope he doesn't hear this, i wouldn't recommend you buy from him even if he has some stocks because what he has is the liter sizes which is good for more than 70 applications so its gonna take some time to use it all up

DP Poli-coat
Sort of like KSG but a little less durable, good thing is because its cheap with their promo right now, but with this sealant you also need a cleaner sealant for it to bond properly

WGDGPS
One of our current favorites especially if polycharged, it looks really wet and warm, as for durability, polycharged version is as good as KSG

Blackfire Wet Diamond Finish
One of the slickest sealants out there and also one of our favorites, this sealant so far gave us the most reflectivity

Zaino
If my Bf's current favorite is WGDGPS, this is my current favorite, its very expensive though, about twice the price of most sealants but is definitely easier to apply especially with ZFX, its durability is much like klasse but definitely looks better

All the other sealant above have to be ordered online, but if you know someone coming over, its well worth to have your bottle shipped, they're some of the best out there, Rejex and 4 star are also great products to order

but over all if its being economical and a proven and time tested sealant KSG takes the lead.

Wow! Great review!

[djoverdose]

Thats a nice pick-up, well my best suggestion for you? try to attend a detailing EB one time, it doesn't have to be the one set up by my BF, it could be from fellow forumers, but going there is the best way to try and test out various products before buying them, and you could also see what products they used that delivered the results they wanted, oh yeah if you're gonna use SwirlX for removing scratches and watermarks you can already opt to remove Step 1 from the process, and one other thing, when you apply step 3, wait for 4 to 8 hours before you apply Top Coat, we look forward to the pics and welcome to tsikot detail thread.

Hi... I would love to..... when and where is this? im very keen to know more about klasse and other wax you guys use... ok naman sakin yung beading ng meguires pero baka mas maganda pa yung mga na bangit niyo dito...

lastly i didnt know i should wait 3-4 hours before applying top coat... why is that madkatz?

thanks...