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    Quote Originally Posted by jed_015 View Post
    nice pics!


    sana black nalang sasakyan namin


    ang bilis ng thread..dami talaga natututunan dito
    Black cars... major PITA to maintain.... although rewarding... but it's really a freakin chore... pero grab ang ganda pag na-detail, astig.... pero mahirap tlga..

    I'm havin a love-hate relationship with my black car.

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    *dbhollanda: walang swirl marks o! nice detail sir!

    hehe. hirap talaga ng black na kotse. pag nagdadrive ako at natutukan ng headlights yung isang itim na auto... more often than not puuuuuuuuuuro swirl marks talaga

    kaya pag walang guhit guhit saludo talaga

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    hi. speaking of black, enough na ba makatanggal ng surface scratches ang megs M84 coupled with wool pad or W-7000 on a makita 9227C rotary? what speed would be ideal for the polisher?

    there are some stubborn scratches that won't come off. but i noticed that they get reduced after a number of passes. di ko lang tinuloy for fear of thinning the clear coat further. naka 4 to 5 section passes na.

    any advice?

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    nice paint condition db!

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    Quote Originally Posted by watusi View Post
    nice paint condition db!
    hirap lang talaga i-maintain lalo na sa case ko kasi ala bubong yung garahe ko sa bahay...

    kaya pati pang cover ko ng kotse e DIY din na maayos considering walang bubong...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbhollanda View Post
    hirap lang talaga i-maintain lalo na sa case ko kasi ala bubong yung garahe ko sa bahay...

    kaya pati pang cover ko ng kotse e DIY din na maayos considering walang bubong...
    We have the same garage situation. I dust one side of the car..then go to the other side. when i come back..there's dust already accumulating. it's a never ending cycle I'm also using nanogloss and nanosliq on a black car.. great results

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrisKros View Post
    We have the same garage situation. I dust one side of the car..then go to the other side. when i come back..there's dust already accumulating. it's a never ending cycle I'm also using nanogloss and nanosliq on a black car.. great results
    may DIY cover ako kaya di gano maalikabok. bumili ako ng beach towel mga 16 pcs then pinatahi ko para magdugtong dugtong so yun ang cover ng auto ko tapos saka ko lagyan ng car cover...

    microtex duster gamit ko and ginagamit ko 2x a day -- bago ko takpan at after ko after ko tanggalin cover bago umalis...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue DX View Post
    hi. speaking of black, enough na ba makatanggal ng surface scratches ang megs M84 coupled with wool pad or W-7000 on a makita 9227C rotary? what speed would be ideal for the polisher?

    there are some stubborn scratches that won't come off. but i noticed that they get reduced after a number of passes. di ko lang tinuloy for fear of thinning the clear coat further. naka 4 to 5 section passes na.

    any advice?
    are the scratches palpable? if yes, di na matatanggal ng buffing yun... sayang lang clearcoat mo sir if you continue to buff. Malaki ang cut ng wool pad...
    Last edited by scharnhorst; January 5th, 2011 at 01:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scharnhorst View Post
    are the scratches palpable? if yes, di na matatanggal ng buffing yun... sayang lang clearcoat mo sir if you continue to buff. Malaki ang cut ng wool pad...
    hindi pa naman malalim. di pa siya yung tipong naffeel na ng finger or lulubog na ang fingernail. they can't be felt but they can be seen. i'm assuming clearcoat scratches talaga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue DX View Post
    hindi pa naman malalim. di pa siya yung tipong naffeel na ng finger or lulubog na ang fingernail. they can't be felt but they can be seen. i'm assuming clearcoat scratches talaga.
    then yeah... a wool pad with m84 might do it. pero matapang nga ang combination na yan. hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by scharnhorst View Post
    then yeah... a wool pad with m84 might do it. pero matapang nga ang combination na yan. hehe
    mga ilang section passes kaya ang ideal? and what speed sa makita? i tried mga 3-4 pero nandun parin eh. i also tried a W-7000 pad M84 combo para di masyado matapang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue DX View Post
    hi. speaking of black, enough na ba makatanggal ng surface scratches ang megs M84 coupled with wool pad or W-7000 on a makita 9227C rotary? what speed would be ideal for the polisher?

    there are some stubborn scratches that won't come off. but i noticed that they get reduced after a number of passes. di ko lang tinuloy for fear of thinning the clear coat further. naka 4 to 5 section passes na.

    any advice?
    to answer you question yes m84 with a wool pad is enough to remove scratches that are not felt by hand, actually its more than enough. 4 to 5 Sections passes are quite normal, sometimes we even go up to 10 sections passes but this depends on skill level and pressure, of course with those 10 section passes the first 3 has heavy pressure but the later ones are just for burnishing the paint slowly easing on the pressure, but i would suggest you try to fill it and save your clear coat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madkatz View Post
    to answer you question yes m84 with a wool pad is enough to remove scratches that are not felt by hand, actually its more than enough. 4 to 5 Sections passes are quite normal, sometimes we even go up to 10 sections passes but this depends on skill level and pressure, of course with those 10 section passes the first 3 has heavy pressure but the later ones are just for burnishing the paint slowly easing on the pressure, but i would suggest you try to fill it and save your clear coat.
    thanks for taking time to answer this query. i've really been itching for a solution for those scratches.

    how about if i use a w-7000 pad for a "milder" approach? would that drastically increase the number of section passes needed?

    when you say heavy pressure, how heavy should it be? put the upper body weight on the polisher?

    as for the filling option, what would you suggest that i use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scharnhorst View Post
    *dbhollanda: walang swirl marks o! nice detail sir!

    hehe. hirap talaga ng black na kotse. pag nagdadrive ako at natutukan ng headlights yung isang itim na auto... more often than not puuuuuuuuuuro swirl marks talaga

    kaya pag walang guhit guhit saludo talaga
    meron pa ring swirl marks yan very fine lang talaga at naalagaan ko ng nanoglos...bilib ako sa carlack twins kasi kaya nyang matanggal ang water marks...tapos sobra bilib ko sa nano twins ma fill up nya talaga ang swirls...

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    Guys how often should I apply Collinite in my car considering it is enrolled in Big Berts Optiguard Program? Can I also apply Collinite every 3 months simultaneous to the Optiguard maintenance? Or is 3 months overkill? Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by x_jason_x View Post
    Guys how often should I apply Collinite in my car considering it is enrolled in Big Berts Optiguard Program? Can I also apply Collinite every 3 months simultaneous to the Optiguard maintenance? Or is 3 months overkill? Thank you.
    collinite 476 would last 3 months only if there's no rain... usually it lasts 3-4 weeks.

    the other collinites are less durable than 476, but are still better than the other OTC waxes

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    Quote Originally Posted by scharnhorst View Post
    collinite 476 would last 3 months only if there's no rain... usually it lasts 3-4 weeks.

    the other collinites are less durable than 476, but are still better than the other OTC waxes
    What I applied is Collinite 845. So it is safe if I apply Collinite 845 every month?

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    Quote Originally Posted by x_jason_x View Post
    What I applied is Collinite 845. So it is safe if I apply Collinite 845 every month?
    Yes sir

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    Quote Originally Posted by x_jason_x View Post
    Guys how often should I apply Collinite in my car considering it is enrolled in Big Berts Optiguard Program? Can I also apply Collinite every 3 months simultaneous to the Optiguard maintenance? Or is 3 months overkill? Thank you.
    you can apply Collinite after you let the sealant from Optiguard cure for 24 hours, i would recommend after waiting for 24 hours to apply 845 and reapply 2 weeks later and yes you can apply it every month even weekly

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    Quote Originally Posted by rico_g View Post
    Black cars... major PITA to maintain.... although rewarding... but it's really a freakin chore... pero grab ang ganda pag na-detail, astig.... pero mahirap tlga..

    I'm havin a love-hate relationship with my black car.
    Hahaha love hate relationship hehe tell me about it, thats exactly how i felt when i first got my black car.

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