Detailing Thread [For Newbies][continued 2]

[franster]

Does anybody know if the 3M Paint Protector (the ones in sachet) is the same with the 3M Imperial Hand Glaze? Basing from its description, its fairly the same. Even the instruction at the back, contents of the product, etc. on both products are exactly the same. Can someone shed a light on this? TIA

anyone?

[Hardinero]

*Hardinero

Yan ba yong wax at top coat? paano ba proper application non?
1) yong wax pagkalagay how many minutes bago i wax off?
2) after waxing off, then how many minutes bago ilagay yong top coat?
3) pagka lagay ng top coat, how many minutes bago i wax off?

TIA

paps, madali lang mag-haze ang advance car wax and top coat kaya wax on wax off lang ginagawa ko....provided manipis lang ang application mo..

pwede mo ng isunod yung topcoat after ng advance car wax..

for me pang-summer ko lang itong reflections twins kasi madali lang siya mawala during rainy season...

next try ko naman yung combo ng sapphire and 915.....

maganda talaga effect ng double waxing.....sana may mag-benta sakin ng murang sapphire (hehehe..calling idol jm yung mga ayaw mo ng gamitin dyan)..

[madkatz]

anyone?

its not the same the paint protector is a lot easier to use compared to IHG but it does seem like a somewhat updated yet different version of IHG, but if it were me i would still go with IHG

[franster]

its not the same the paint protector is a lot easier to use compared to IHG but it does seem like a somewhat updated yet different version of IHG, but if it were me i would still go with IHG

but purpose wise, are they the same? is it safe to use it every time i wax my car? or do i have to use it only twice a year or similar to that?

[junsd]

paps, madali lang mag-haze ang advance car wax and top coat kaya wax on wax off lang ginagawa ko....provided manipis lang ang application mo..

pwede mo ng isunod yung topcoat after ng advance car wax..

for me pang-summer ko lang itong reflections twins kasi madali lang siya mawala during rainy season...

next try ko naman yung combo ng sapphire and 915.....

maganda talaga effect ng double waxing.....sana may mag-benta sakin ng murang sapphire (hehehe..calling idol jm yung mga ayaw mo ng gamitin dyan)..

*Hardinero

Thanks ha, at noted yong pang summer, good information. :-)

[jed_015]

Dude wag na lang siguro dalhin.... di po eto wash sunday w/c we often do sa dojo.....1-2 cars lang ang gagamitin..... But I do suggest you attend this one...

okay sir,thanks..

[jmpet626]

paps, madali lang mag-haze ang advance car wax and top coat kaya wax on wax off lang ginagawa ko....provided manipis lang ang application mo..

pwede mo ng isunod yung topcoat after ng advance car wax..

for me pang-summer ko lang itong reflections twins kasi madali lang siya mawala during rainy season...

next try ko naman yung combo ng sapphire and 915.....

maganda talaga effect ng double waxing.....sana may mag-benta sakin ng murang sapphire (hehehe..calling idol jm yung mga ayaw mo ng gamitin dyan)..

meron pa kong sobrang sapphire..

[jagtemp]

Meron din ako dito Sapphire. di pa nabubukas, dalawa kasi binili ko. Sino gusto heheh.

[air23]

mga boss, kaya bang tanggalin ng alcohol yung 476s? gumamit kasi ako ng alcohol para matanggal yung mga wax residue sa mga rubber trims. I wonder kung natanggal ko rin kaya yung coat of 476s sa paint? napunasan ko rin kasi yung ibang painted parts eh.

[raine]

dagdag ko lang ng observation ko. dumating na ang pinabili kong 476 sa office mate ko na taga laguna.gamit ko sa black na tsikot. mga nasubukan ko para sa paint nito. TW hard shell, Mothers step 3 carnauva wax, 476 and carlack68 LLS,
ito ang process na ginawa ko 3 coat ng carlack68 LLS - parang gatas ang texture , pinakamahirap ibuff, matigas
pinatungan ko ng ibat ibang wax to test.
TW hard sshell- mahirap i aplly ng manipis at mahirap din tangalin. ang effect minimum shine but madulas ang panel pag hinawakan mo.
Mothers 3 step - madaling iapply ng manipis at madali rin ibuff, effect middle shine but merong mga whitish na naiiwan sa panel na kailangan balik balikan mo ang punas para matangal, di madulas ang panel pag hinawakan mo.
476- madaling iapply ng manipis but pinakamahirap tanggalin or ibuff compare sa 2 wax, but masmahirap pa rin tanggalin or i buff ang carlack68 LLS, effect max shine and di madulas ang panel pag hinawakan mo.
observe ko muna ang durability nilang tatlo, lahat ito nakapatong sa carlack68 LLS.

[antz-z]

went to blade this lunch to buy mother's step1 and step3 and microtex nano glos. guy at blade said i should try mother's carnauba cleaner wax instead of the 3-steps. any feedback po from this item?

i ended up buying magic 88 applicator pads, mother's fender wall brush and microtex nano sliq..

[kafph2000]

dagdag ko lang ng observation ko. dumating na ang pinabili kong 476 sa office mate ko na taga laguna.gamit ko sa black na tsikot. mga nasubukan ko para sa paint nito. TW hard shell, Mothers step 3 carnauva wax, 476 and carlack68 LLS,
ito ang process na ginawa ko 3 coat ng carlack68 LLS - parang gatas ang texture , pinakamahirap ibuff, matigas
pinatungan ko ng ibat ibang wax to test.
TW hard sshell- mahirap i aplly ng manipis at mahirap din tangalin. ang effect minimum shine but madulas ang panel pag hinawakan mo.
Mothers 3 step - madaling iapply ng manipis at madali rin ibuff, effect middle shine but merong mga whitish na naiiwan sa panel na kailangan balik balikan mo ang punas para matangal, di madulas ang panel pag hinawakan mo.
476- madaling iapply ng manipis but pinakamahirap tanggalin or ibuff compare sa 2 wax, but masmahirap pa rin tanggalin or i buff ang carlack68 LLS, effect max shine and di madulas ang panel pag hinawakan mo.
observe ko muna ang durability nilang tatlo, lahat ito nakapatong sa carlack68 LLS.

476 will definitely outlast the two IMO.

[kafph2000]

went to blade this lunch to buy mother's step1 and step3 and microtex nano glos. guy at blade said i should try mother's carnauba cleaner wax instead of the 3-steps. any feedback po from this item?

i ended up buying magic 88 applicator pads, mother's fender wall brush and microtex nano sliq..

AFAIK, carnauba cleaner wax is a combination of the 3 steps. if you don't have so much time for detailing your car, then go for the carnauba cleaner. but if you have time to spare on detailing, then go for the 3 steps, which i believe is more effective than the carnauba cleaner alone. I had the same thought before, but ended up buying steps 1 and 2, and 476 as the 3rd step.

[antz-z]

AFAIK, carnauba cleaner wax is a combination of the 3 steps. if you don't have so much time for detailing your car, then go for the carnauba cleaner. but if you have time to spare on detailing, then go for the 3 steps, which i believe is more effective than the carnauba cleaner alone. I had the same thought before, but ended up buying steps 1 and 2, and 476 as the 3rd step.

thanks.. follow-up questions lang..

mother's pre-cleaner wax is to be used 1-2 times a year, kaso wala naman nabibili na small amount lang. how long is the shelf-life of this?

and also, where did you buy the 476? sa autobisyo website, it's P1900.. i thought it was only P700..

[franster]

Guys do you know how to take of an etched bird poop off a clear coat safely? I have tried searching here and on other sites but I can't seem to find the exact remedy. Because I was too desperate, I tried 3M scratch remover. It took off a little to none and made the clear coat hazy. Good thing I have the Hand Glaze to give it's shine back.

So what would safely and completely remove the bird poop?

Actually I had these in mind:

-Bug and Tar Remover
-Detailing Clay
-Pre Wax Cleaner

What would you recommend?

[kafph2000]

thanks.. follow-up questions lang..

mother's pre-cleaner wax is to be used 1-2 times a year, kaso wala naman nabibili na small amount lang. how long is the shelf-life of this?

and also, where did you buy the 476? sa autobisyo website, it's P1900.. i thought it was only P700..

I've read before na years din bibilangin regarding its shelf life.(probably 5? baka nagpalit ka na ng auto, buhay pa cleaner mo )
Just make sure it's well kept in a cool dry place.
700php parin yung 476 bro. the site is not updated. just bought one the other week and it's still 700 pesos.

[dbhollanda]

Guys do you know how to take of an etched bird poop off a clear coat safely? I have tried searching here and on other sites but I can't seem to find the exact remedy. Because I was too desperate, I tried 3M scratch remover. It took off a little to none and made the clear coat hazy. Good thing I have the Hand Glaze to give it's shine back.

So what would safely and completely remove the bird poop?

Actually I had these in mind:

-Bug and Tar Remover
-Detailing Clay
-Pre Wax Cleaner

What would you recommend?

ako ginagawa ko yung ONR spray lang yung portion na yun then wipe off...then another spray ng ONR para sure na wala maiwan...then QD...

[tribal]

kakapit po ba ang collinite 476 sa paint kung mag aapply muna ko ng TW cleaner wax? or mas maganda pong shampoo ko muna ulit then deretso 476 na?

sana mapadala na agad ng autobisyo order ko hehe..cant wait na kung maganda nga talaga yung effect ng 476 compared sa mga pinagpipilian ko before...

[franster]

ako ginagawa ko yung ONR spray lang yung portion na yun then wipe off...then another spray ng ONR para sure na wala maiwan...then QD...

I think ONR is not effective anymore as the bird stain has oxidized already. How about for those severe cases in which the stain ate through the clear coat? Would it disappear if I would just leave it?

[dbhollanda]

I think ONR is not effective anymore as the bird stain has oxidized already. How about for those severe cases in which the stain ate through the clear coat? Would it disappear if I would just leave it?

true pag nag oxidized na e ibang usapan na talaga yan. di ko pa na try na ganyang case sa vehicle ko. antay natin ang mga reply ng mga masters/guru for that scenario.