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[rico_g]

ang collonite 915 ba e may cleaner ingredients or pure wax sya? kasi mas ok sa akin yung pure wax (walang cleaner) para pwede kong ipatong sa carlack twins?

what about OCW -- pure wax ba ito or may cleaner ingredients?

both products don't have cleaners.

perfect combo to top carlack/klasses twins with 915... then finish it off with OCW... ayus! This is my planned combo once i get my carlack twins...

ayus yan sir! post nyo pics once done...

[rico_g]

Hi guys,
My first can of 476 is almost empty. Now, I'm thinking of whether I'll get another one or buy 915 instead. Aside from the price(700 vs 1800 ), does anyone know their differences in terms of performance? Which one's better for black cars? Thanks!

I have 476 too, yet I'm planning to buy 915... if you wax every 2 weeks, then go for 915... 915 is PERFECT for dark colored cars, most especially, black cars. kakaiba ung shine nito..

However, i still plan to use 476. There are times for me when i wax just once a month, with regular OCW coating... 476 somehow outlasts 915 by a week or two.

so the plan is 476 during rainy season, when im not so concerned with the looks kasi umuulan naman palagi, and i get that extra protection

tapos 915 pag tapos na rainy season, pasikat sa kintab ang black car ko..

[jmpet626]

ang collonite 915 ba e may cleaner ingredients or pure wax sya? kasi mas ok sa akin yung pure wax (walang cleaner) para pwede kong ipatong sa carlack twins?

what about OCW -- pure wax ba ito or may cleaner ingredients?

Finishing wax ang 915 at OCW wala silang cleaners so OK for layering.

[raine]

first time kong gumamit ng carlack 68LLS, para palang gatas ito na maputi, then ang ginamit ko ay yung pads na pangmake up , malipis lang ang naaapply nito as in sobrang lipis, ok lang ba yun, noong inalis ko kahit sobrang lipis medyo maykahirapan din, ngayon curing time pag uwi ko reapply ulit hanggang maging 3 layers, then last apply ng mothers 3rd step carnauba wax, ok na po ba itong preparation ko.

[dbhollanda]

first time kong gumamit ng carlack 68LLS, para palang gatas ito na maputi, then ang ginamit ko ay yung pads na pangmake up , malipis lang ang naaapply nito as in sobrang lipis, ok lang ba yun, noong inalis ko kahit sobrang lipis medyo maykahirapan din, ngayon curing time pag uwi ko reapply ulit hanggang maging 3 layers, then last apply ng mothers 3rd step carnauba wax, ok na po ba itong preparation ko.

1 hr ang curing time ng carlack. pag pinagtagal mo yan e mas mahirap nga siguro tanggalin. ang ginagamit ng iba dito (ako rin minsan) is buff it with QD (for my case zymol) ayun madali na sya ma buff off.

as per your other question about your preparation, carlack twins is more than sufficient na and no need for other waxes. ito rin ang ginagawa ko ngayon but then since i have so many other products (i.e. meguiars carnauba, microtex twins -- nanoglos and sliq, mothers) na nabili ko prior to carlack twins e uubisin ko na lang yung mga yun then stick na ko sa carlack twins.

so going forward, and since open ang garage ko sa house, so i need protection so here's my regimen:
- monthly carlack twins (1st week of the month)
- weekly wax but pure wax only that's why i'm planning to get collonite and ocw. currently ang meron akong pure wax na ginagamit ko weeekly is yung mothers top coat (no cleaner).

im also thinking of getting a pure yellow carnauba pero siguro after ko muna ma try yung ocw and collonite.

[Starex_Gold]

Overkill yung collinite pag weekly..

[dbhollanda]

Finishing wax ang 915 at OCW wala silang cleaners so OK for layering.

thanks.

ano ba difference ng collonite waxes -- 476, 845 and 915? ano mas maganda gamitin as pure wax (no cleaners) na weekly ang application kasi monthly naman ang application ko ng carlack twins e so gagawin kong in between the carlack twins itong collonite and ocw but then ano maganda na collonite product kasi 3 yan e.

[dbhollanda]

Overkill yung collinite pag weekly..

SG bat overkill?

[Starex_Gold]

dbhollanda: Overkill yung monthly application ng Carlack Twins. Remember light polish din yung Nano-Systematic care.

Dapat every 3 months tulad ng Bigbert's Optiguard Paint Protection Program.

Collinite 476:

Super Doublecoat Auto Wax (No. 476s) [SIZE=-1] One of the finest paste type auto waxes available. Easy to apply and absolutely DETERGENT PROOF. Collinite Super Doublecoat is guaranteed to outlast and outshine any other competitive auto wax, polish or protective coating under any conceivable condition. That's why it's called the PERMANENT AUTO WAX. No hard rubbing or buffing... and no special applicator is required. Collinite Super Doublecoat will last a full year, even under adverse conditions. Clear coat safe. [/SIZE]

Collinite 915:

Marque D'Elegance (No. 915) [SIZE=-1] For the BEST in wax endurance, Marque d'Elegance is the product to have. Car enthusiasts demand a wax that is proven to protect in the most demanding environments, rain or shine, on track or on the street. They have discovered that Collinite Marque d'Elegance gives their valuable automotive investments a blinding, lasting shine because its formulated from the highest-ever concentration of pure Carnauba waxes. And no abrasives means all Collinite waxes are absolutely clear coat safe. It doesn't get any better![/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Collinite 845:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][/SIZE]

Liquid Insulator Wax (No. 845)
[SIZE=-1] This heavy duty liquid wax was originally developed for use by electric power companies for protection against high voltage power failure, fires and explosions. It's primary use is on the finishes of automobiles, trucks, buses and airplanes where durability, high gloss and lasting protection are paramount. An excellent choice for fleet applications and very easy to use--requires minimum rubbing or buffing. Clear coat safe. [/SIZE]

[Starex_Gold]

SG bat overkill?

Kasi matibay talaga yung Collinite, yung 915 na na-apply ko before pa magasgasan yung Tucson ko may effect parin until now. September pa yun..

[tc327]

Kasi matibay talaga yung Collinite, yung 915 na na-apply ko before pa magasgasan yung Tucson ko may effect parin until now. September pa yun..

SG after ng collinite application ba mean hugas na lang with shampoo or water lang then punas punas di kaya matanggal lets say nagpacarwash ka na nagamit ng foam

[dbhollanda]

Kasi matibay talaga yung Collinite, yung 915 na na-apply ko before pa magasgasan yung Tucson ko may effect parin until now. September pa yun..

SG-> mukhang maganda nga ang 915 and 845. san kaya nakakabili nito?

[Louie_18]

SG-> mukhang maganda nga ang 915 and 845. san kaya nakakabili nito?

www.autobisyo.com

Last time na bumili ako ng 915 dalawa na lang stock nila.

[Starex_Gold]

SG after ng collinite application ba mean hugas na lang with shampoo or water lang then punas punas di kaya matanggal lets say nagpacarwash ka na nagamit ng foam

Di parin matatanggal. Sabi ko sa inyo matindi ang collinite..

[jmpet626]

SG after ng collinite application ba mean hugas na lang with shampoo or water lang then punas punas di kaya matanggal lets say nagpacarwash ka na nagamit ng foam

Detergent proof ang collinite waxes so di siya basta basta matatangal ng regular car shampoo.

[jmpet626]

www.autobisyo.com

Last time na bumili ako ng 915 dalawa na lang stock nila.

Abang abang lang kayo minsan may sale diyan sa autibisyo. 1.2k lang yung 915 nung nabili ko.

[jmpet626]

SG bat overkill?

Law of diminishing returns

From : http://www.meguiars.com/faq/index.cf...ection=_14#_14

The Law of Diminishing Returns
(Thomas Malthus "Essay on the Principle of Population" published in 1798.)

While this theory is generally used to discuss topics as they relate to the areas of economics and politics, it is a model that can also be used to explain in this case, the complex action occurring at the microscopic level on the surface of your car's finish.

The law of diminishing returns as it relates to layering,

A surface, such as an automotive paint, can only hold so much product before all you're doing is removing all subsequent coatings applied to the surface.

That is to say, after the first, second and in some cases a third application/coating, any more product applied to the surface is merely removed when you wipe the excess off after waiting for the product to cure.

At this point you've reached a plateau (or limit), as to how much wax (natural or synthetic) a surface can hold. Once you reach this plateau, all further applications of wax simply become excess that will be removed (and thus wasted), during wipe-off because it has nowhere to attach and layer.

Of course, this all depends upon your definition of the word "Layer".

If your definition of the word layer follows that of Webster's Dictionary:

2 a: One thickness, course, or fold, laid or lying over or under another

Then yes, you can layer to a certain point. For example, you can add multiple layers of layerable waxes until the limit to how much a given surface of an automotive paint can hold before each additional application is simply removed, or replaces a previously applied layer.

You cannot layer to the point of developing a measurable film-build without negatively affecting, or diminishing to some degree, the shine, optical clarity, gloss, reflectivity, depth of color etc. This is especially true if the product you're applying is not clear (in and of itself) to start with.

If your definition of the word "layer" follows that of definition used by some on the Internet,

Layer 1: To continually build a greater level of protection with each additional application, or layer, of a wax or protectant. (Natural or synthetic)

Layer 2: To continually increase shine, optical clarity, gloss, reflectivity, depth of color without end and/or after a plateau, or point of maximum potential has been achieved.

[kafph2000]

Abang abang lang kayo minsan may sale diyan sa autibisyo. 1.2k lang yung 915 nung nabili ko.

Bro, kailan 'to? Nagtanong ako kahapon, 1.8k na raw. Sayang.

[Starex_Gold]

Bro, kailan 'to? Nagtanong ako kahapon, 1.8k na raw. Sayang.

Matagal na yung sale, bro.

Nag sale sila noong May 2010, nakabili din ako ng 915. 1.2K din.

[jmpet626]

Bro, kailan 'to? Nagtanong ako kahapon, 1.8k na raw. Sayang.

Tagal na din yun sir mga May or June pa ata nakita ko lang sa TeamFD na may sale sila. Mura na pala yang 1.8k dati benta nila sa 915 2.4k eh tapos yung promo nila 50% off kaya 1.2k. SRP kasi ng 915 online is 29$ without shipping pa.