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Kung tipid mode kaya mo na iyan engine cleaning DIY para sigurado ka pang hindi mo mababasa iyong mga electrical at maselan na bagay .

[ess]

I finally got to fix that cat scratch I got on my hood last month with some good old #83.

Before:


After:



I topped #83 with some Carlack68 NSC. A day later, I put on a coat of #26.



...but crap... just today, I saw that stupid cat lurking again.... kainis.

[mj09]

Hi guys, especially madkatz hehe.

boss ess, nice job! i saw that the #83 is a dual action cleaner/polish right? ano po ang equivalent nito sa mothers or any OTC brand na newbies like me are more familiar with? how much clear coat po ang mawawala by using this, if any?

and also, kakabili ko lang ng megs swirlX pero di ko pa nagagamit. pwede rin po ba ito sa mga light scratches or hailrline-like scratches or pang swirls lang talaga? how often can i use swirlx? every quarter? 2x a year? yearly? can i make it part of a regular, say, quarterly regimen, or should i use it just when deemed necessary? thanks!

[ess]

Yes, the #83 is a dual action cleaner polish. One of Meg's older (but still reliable) products.

How much clear it removes? I can't say exactly how much, since I don't have a paint gauge :D. But this I can say -- I've been using #83 at least twice a year for 6 years since my car rolled out the casa.

How aggressive #83 gets depends on a lot of factors -- what machine you use (ROP or Rotary), what speed you use, and what pad you use.

For my car's legendary soft honda paint, I stick with a finishing pad, with my rotary set to 600rpm and never higher than 900rpm.

RE: equivalent OTC
If you're not going to use a machine, then the SwirlX you've just purchased will be perfect. It should get rid of cobwebbing and minor blemishes. It may not completely remove hairline scratches, but it will smoothen out the edges of those scratches to make them less noticable (i.e. only you and the people who post at this forum will get to see those scratches.. :D )

With proper use, I would say twice a year would be safe.

[water]

anyone here,

Yung Civic FD ko natuklap paint sa gilid. Yung sa area kung saan kinakabit side skirt. Ang area natuklap paint sa ilalim doon sa may rubberized part.

May alam kayo magaling sa pintura kotse na hindi casa para makita ko habang ginagawa?

[madkatz]

*ess: great job with the 83! And good luck with the new cat lurking haha!

[Chikselog]

*madkatz
Question:
Kailangan ko ba lagyan ng Cleaner Wax ang paint prior to waxing for the wax to bond properly? Pansin ko kasi, saglit lang tinatagal ng wax sakin.

[madkatz]

*mj09: for me #83 would be like a little more aggressive version of both SwirlX and Mothers Power Polish, as for the amount of clear coat it removes, that depends on how much pressure you apply.

SwirlX can be used for those paint defects that you mentioned, for deeper scratches and swirls you might need a second application or more pressure, as for when it could be used i would recommend that you only used it when needed since honestly you can't totally maintain your car swirl free and you might need it again, so i guess once a year would also be good.

[madkatz]

*mj09:Same with Ess, #83 for me is also one of the keepers in my polish book, true its old but its still very versatile, you could see the remarkable difference with the pads that you use and the finish is very clear and pretty much swirl free already so you don't need a finishing polish to top it up.

Actually the 83 once applied via machine is actually less aggressive than the SwirlX but since you would be using SwirlX via hand the factors like pressure and work time really does count, with moderate to heavy pressure it can be more aggressive than #83 due to its non expending abrasives, but SwirlX is still very much noob proof and the long working time makes it better for beginners, so whether you need to apply it once, twice or even thrice a year, just always start light and don't get too excited to remove every defect you see, you might end up clearing up a lot in the process of getting that prefect finish only to be marred or swirled by an acccident especially if you have lurking cats around, right Ess? hahaha

[madkatz]

*water: sorry with that i can't help you, i would just suggest bringing it to Honda