newbie query about diamond gloss

[torne625]

hi everyone, newbie po me.

few days ago, i bought a brand new ford escape po. i was being offered by ford about this ziebart diamond gloss. ok po ba yun?

if i decide po ba to do the protection and polishing on my own, pwede po ba and waht shall i do.

after few days lang po ksi, since maulan ngayon, e pansin ko me mga aspalto na gilid.

thnx in advance

[v6dreamer]

Forget it. Any kind of wax or polish you can buy at a store would be comparable to this dealer stuff and save a few hundred or even a thousand bucks.

All it is, is a polish/wax. Sometimes acrylic based. It doesn't last 3
months let alone three years. It's applied by the dealer or an outside shop. It costs the dealer about 150.00 pesos if they apply it themselves, or approx. 250.00 pesos if done to an outside shop. It's a great money maker for the dealer and salesmen joke about it all the time. The guarantee is useless and hinges on the laws of average. Don't waste your money. If these systems could ever work they'd be formulated in the paint or applied at the factory..... Total nonsense.

Teflon in a product is also marketing hype. Teflon needs heat. Approx 625 degrees to stick to a metal surface. It can never stick to a paint surface just to rub it. Its a baloney.

Another Bull S_ _ _ marketing ploy.... also known as snake marketing. WALK AWAY.

[DBanker]

*v6dreamer: sir, you mean to say, there's no need to have any "application paints/sealers" they say "paint protection" in NEW cars? i for one is thinking for my Nissan bought 2 weeks ago...that ziebart-diamond-gloss, sbi nila after availing that, all you have to do is just wash with water- and presto! no need for any waxing... salamat po for any reply
hapiDrvng

[bokpogi]

i agree with v6dreamer, i just bought a new crv and fall prey to that marketing ploy. Honda called it hydrophillic paint protection especially designed for water to bead out but lo and behold water spots really love to stick on my car's body. Its a total waste of money. So what i did was to buy a meguire yellow techno wax and applied it myself. The result is much pleasing.

[v6dreamer]

*v6dreamer: sir, you mean to say, there's no need to have any "application paints/sealers" they say "paint protection" in NEW cars? i for one is thinking for my Nissan bought 2 weeks ago...that ziebart-diamond-gloss, sbi nila after availing that, all you have to do is just wash with water- and presto! no need for any waxing... salamat po for any reply
hapiDrvng

Paint protection is much known called CLEAR COAT. Paint sealer isn't that good unless your car is freshly painted. Wax protects your current paint and clear coat from dirt, road salt and prevents rust.

So I would stay away from spending that much on paint sealer because it won't hold up as well as wax.. unless your car has JUST been painted.


*bokpogi.. You have just been victimized by snake marketer. Clear coat is a coating applied over automotive painted surfaces from the manufacturer to protect from the harmful UV rays & give the paint the long lasting shine. Wax is an smart move to protect the clearcoat..

[james00112233]

Paint protection is much known called CLEAR COAT. Paint sealer isn't that good unless your car is freshly painted. Wax protects your current paint and clear coat from dirt, road salt and prevents rust.

So I would stay away from spending that much on paint sealer because it won't hold up as well as wax.. unless your car has JUST been painted.


*bokpogi.. You have just been victimized by snake marketer. Clear coat is a coating applied over automotive painted surfaces from the manufacturer to protect from the harmful UV rays & give the paint the long lasting shine. Wax is an smart move to protect the clearcoat..

I also have a brand new crv and I would like to use my free hydrophilic paint protection from Honda... Would that be advisable?...

[DBanker]

oks mga Sirs, so i will not have my GL undergo such "paint sealings/protection" they offering; question is - can i apply "wax" na agad considering my (brand new )ride is only 2wks old? or car wash (siempre with shampoo) na lang po muna...? tnx
- hapiDrving

[v6dreamer]

* James 007... Hydrophilic is just a wax. I hate to break the news to you, but all you did was pay way too much money for a simple wax. The 'sealant' they used isn't much better than the Turtle Wax or some other protectant you can pick up for about (? pesos). Use it, its your"s.


*DBanker.....THERE IS NO WAITING TIME for waxing a new car!! All the
new cars stay at the factory for 45 days before being shipped to the dealers. So, go ahead and wax your car!! DON'T buy the teflon or whatever there selling protective---new cars ALREADY have it!!

[Psylocke]

honda's hydrophilic nonsense is not a wax... but it's bull$hit nevertheless

what you should do is get some turtle wax ice liquid polish. so easy to use you can use it every 2 weeks

[DBanker]

*DBanker.....THERE IS NO WAITING TIME for waxing a new car!! All the
new cars stay at the factory for 45 days before being shipped to the dealers. So, go ahead and wax your car!! DON'T buy the teflon or whatever there selling protective---new cars ALREADY have it!!

-salamat po, will do! advance Merry Xmas... hope to meet you when u go "balikbayan"
hapiDrvng

[XTO]

IMO kung di naman pang car show, sayang pera, marami hindi na na sustain ang bisyo, napabayaan rin. there are also some brands that worth to try i use the 3 steps by meguiars. wala ka nang hahanapin pa. exercise pa and nothing beats when you see you car shines dahil napagod ka.

1. cleaner wax

2. polish

3. finishing wax

[ess]

I also have a brand new crv and I would like to use my free hydrophilic paint protection from Honda... Would that be advisable?...

If it's free... then go ahead!
It won't harm your paint. When the effects wear off or if you're not happy outright, then apply your favorite wax or sealant.

Basta free. Hehehe.

[james00112233]

* James 007... Hydrophilic is just a wax. I hate to break the news to you, but all you did was pay way too much money for a simple wax. The 'sealant' they used isn't much better than the Turtle Wax or some other protectant you can pick up for about (? pesos). Use it, its your"s.

honda's hydrophilic nonsense is not a wax... but it's bull nevertheless

what you should do is get some turtle wax ice liquid polish. so easy to use you can use it every 2 weeks

If it's free... then go ahead!
It won't harm your paint. When the effects wear off or if you're not happy outright, then apply your favorite wax or sealant.

Basta free. Hehehe.

salamat po sa mga reply nyo..
dahil free po yung hydrophilic siguro gamitin ko na din kung wala naman pong masamang epekto sa body paint po, tulad po ng sabi ni ess... tama po ba desisyon ko?...

[SELEGNA_35]

IMO kung di naman pang car show, sayang pera, marami hindi na na sustain ang bisyo, napabayaan rin. there are also some brands that worth to try i use the 3 steps by meguiars. wala ka nang hahanapin pa. exercise pa and nothing beats when you see you car shines dahil napagod ka.

1. cleaner wax

2. polish

3. finishing wax

Bro, tatlong klase ba yan sa meguiars? o 3 in 1?

[Helios]

hi everyone, newbie po me.
few days ago, i bought a brand new ford escape po. i was being offered by ford about this ziebart diamond gloss. ok po ba yun?
if i decide po ba to do the protection and polishing on my own, pwede po ba and waht shall i do.
after few days lang po ksi, since maulan ngayon, e pansin ko me mga aspalto na gilid.
thnx in advance

never a ziebart diamond gloss, sir from a personal experience. been with them for a year and their inferior service matches their inferior wax.
same experience for honda's hydrophilic rubbish. daling matanggal kahit na free. since binyag ng bagong car mo and you mentioned aspalt on the side, i should suggest you visit bigberts for one time cleaner/sealant combo. they'll give you expert advise and from thereon bahala ka na with the rest. worth the visit i assure you- peksman.

[torne625]

friends, thnx for all the infos. you've been very helpful and informative.

.... another thing, aside from that diamond gloss, ford is likewise offering a rustproof and thorough undercoating of my escape for a little above Php10k. is it worth it? thanx again in advance and MERRY CHRISTMAS to everyone.