Tsikot.ph PHUV Prototype

[AC]

ang india po kaya nakakagawa ng engine.. dahil.. maganda po ang steel industry nila... in order to make engines.. kelangan meron tayo.. magandang steel/other industries to support the product.. madami naman na parts diyan... hindi naman talaga engine manufacturers gumagawa.. halos assembly lang..

konting steel products nalang.. natitirang meron factory ang pilipinas.. sa alam ko.. deformed bar lang kaya gawin dito.. dahil.. hindi kelangan ng precision sa pag gawa nito.. melt shape and pull lang..
yung iba... wirants... sheets... squarebars puros imported...

madami tayong factory.. sa pilipinas but alot of them do not manufacture anymore. ginagamit nalang nila factories nila as front para makapag parating ng china and makabenta ng hindi hinuhuling anti-dumping..

[lgp]

Gandang araw po sa lahat. While it is true that we are not at par with our neighboring countries when it comes to building our own engine, we still have some skills and the capabilities to do some parts of car building ourselves -yun nga lang most of it the bodywork.

My idea of designing a pinoy uv would have it start by analyzing the economics of the project first. Di ba the main reason why the design of the puj has gone unchanged for decades (malapit na maging century :D ) is because of the way they try to maximize the sheets? Then it is here that economists and designers should sit down together (preferably over a beer or two) and discuss feasibility of design.

Only when a feasible balance on paper has been achieved should the actual work progress, that way we wouldn't be wasting a lot of funds.

0.02 worth (or less maybe).

[victorevolution]

ang india po kaya nakakagawa ng engine.. dahil.. maganda po ang steel industry nila... in order to make engines.. kelangan meron tayo.. magandang steel/other industries to support the product.. madami naman na parts diyan... hindi naman talaga engine manufacturers gumagawa.. halos assembly lang..

konting steel products nalang.. natitirang meron factory ang pilipinas.. sa alam ko.. deformed bar lang kaya gawin dito.. dahil.. hindi kelangan ng precision sa pag gawa nito.. melt shape and pull lang..
yung iba... wirants... sheets... squarebars puros imported...

madami tayong factory.. sa pilipinas but alot of them do not manufacture anymore. ginagamit nalang nila factories nila as front para makapag parating ng china and makabenta ng hindi hinuhuling anti-dumping..

i strongly disagree with you 1 million percent! it would give us a footing kung meron tayong steel idustry but economic 101 - japan doesnt have a steel industry yet they were able to produce a better engine, heck wala nga raw material sa japan eh kaya nga napreserve nila yung ganda ng environment nila kasi walang mga minahan kasi walang raw material, as a matter of fact lahat inimport nila since late 1800 to this day! kaya nga sumali mga hapon sa world war 2 para ma monopolize and makuha niya lahat ng raw material sa asia kasi nag embargo u.s. sa kanila.

and yung steel industry ng india ngayon lang gumanda ng ma aquire ni mittal yung mga steel mills sa euorpe, pero in thier local india eh tagaputol at recylce lang ng mga lumang barko source nila ng steel na mura kasi mura labor and mura and madali ma bypass toxic laws sa kanila.

[victorevolution]

if we can make freaking fake guns with crude machineries(maganda baril ng danao hehehehehehe ang kulang lang ay grooves para straight yung tragectory ng bala) paano pa kaya kung meron tayong matinong machineries para gumawa ng engine.

kailangan natin national will! we can get the raw materials madali na yun!

[victorevolution]

i strongly disagree with you 1 million percent! it would give us a footing kung meron tayong steel idustry but economic 101 - japan doesnt have a steel industry yet they were able to produce a better engine, heck wala nga raw material sa japan eh kaya nga napreserve nila yung ganda ng environment nila kasi walang mga minahan kasi walang raw material, as a matter of fact lahat inimport nila since late 1800 to this day! kaya nga sumali mga hapon sa world war 2 para ma monopolize and makuha niya lahat ng raw material sa asia kasi nag embargo u.s. sa kanila.

and yung steel industry ng india ngayon lang gumanda ng ma aquire ni mittal yung mga steel mills sa euorpe, pero in thier local india eh tagaputol at recylce lang ng mga lumang barko source nila ng steel na mura kasi mura labor and mura and madali ma bypass toxic laws sa kanila.

we are more at par with the, we even excel, fyi karamihan ng mga engineers natin sila naghihire and madami pang professionals, yung oilfields sa saudi arabia mga filipino contractor gumawa noon, yung palasyo ng sultan ng brunei pilipino nag design and nagconstruct!

yung mga old rich lang kasi dito satin yung mga spanish na ayala, mga intsik na tan and coujangco or yuchengco ay ayaw mag pondo kasi sila mga franchiser ng mga honda ford and etc.. gusto lang ng mga hinayupak na yan ay pagkakitaan ang bansa natin, pag nagkagera baka mga hayop na yan una pang umalis sa bansa natin sila nagpapabagsak ng sarili natin auto industry, tingnan niyo ginawa ng toyota sa sarao binanatan nila by producing a tamaraw f.x. with almost the same price plus aircon pa. sarao naman di nakaganti ayun bagsak.

[AC]

sir.. wala po tayo talaga steel industry.. wala tayo hi grade streels sa pinas.. i am in steel industry po.. madami pong grade ang steel.. may mga sikreto pagtimpla.. and madaming makina kailangan.. i dont know saan nakukuha ng japan steel nila... but hi grade steel in philippines are from japan.. including seamless pipes po.. now not all are made in japan... some hi grade steel is already made in china but japanese owned ang factories.. iba po sir steel natin...

yes meron tayo gumagawa parts ng baril.. sa mirdc.. in bicutan..

pasensya na sa pics.. phonecam lang..
yan yung gawa natin... mga non-important parts lang.. mga handle mga kung ano ano lang na hindi kailangan hi quality ang bakal..
well maganda din naman foundry equipment natin to make these.. pero.. wala po tayo pang gawa pang timple pang cut ng hard steel... hi tensile steel..

pag pinilit natin gumawa ng makinang hindi up to spec.. guns na parang galing danao ang kalalabasan nun.. ikaw ba lulusob sa gera using danao guns?

i like filipino goods... but.. sinasabi ko lang po wala tayong kakayahan sa ngayon para makagawa ng.. buong engine..

like sa japan... kunwari ikaw ay gagawa ng... makina.. gawa ka lang ng model.. and design... . diyan magaling tayo.. design design.. hehe drawing drawing.. pag tapos mabuo ang design... block lang siguro gagawin nila.. or baka may contractor pang gagawa ng block for them... well.. most car manufacturers make their blocks since... simple lang naman.. mag foundry..then order na ng parts yan.. like valves... arms.. etc.. tatawag lang yan dun sa gumagawa.. kailangan namin ito specs.. ganito haba.. ito design.. para ilagay dito.. etc etc... then darating na sakanila yun.. then assemble lang nila.. dito saatin.. medyo wala pong ganun..

walang kwenta ang mines natin kung hindi din natin kaya iprocess into goods..
mga bakal natin.. specially last year.. alam naman ng lahat yan.. binibili papuntang china.. dahil tumaas presyo ng bakal.. and nagka demand..

btw.. hindi po proper gamitin intsik to refer to chinese people... rude po ang dating ng salitang yan sa mga chinese.. or tsino..

[ghosthunter]

I've been saying the same thing but who listens to me, right?

They think I am just a negative-thinking know-it-all.

But deep inside, they know what I said is what is real.

No matter how much they repeat the words "the Filipino can", it will not change the situation we are in nor the nature of the problem.

[marg]

tingnan niyo ginawa ng toyota sa sarao binanatan nila by producing a tamaraw f.x. with almost the same price plus aircon pa. sarao naman di nakaganti ayun bagsak.

That is the beauty of the Free Enterprise system. Competition improves products and services. Those who refuse to change like Sarao (and many Jeepney-makers).....Die.

[victorevolution]

sir.. wala po tayo talaga steel industry.. wala tayo hi grade streels sa pinas.. i am in steel industry po.. madami pong grade ang steel.. may mga sikreto pagtimpla.. and madaming makina kailangan.. i dont know saan nakukuha ng japan steel nila... but hi grade steel in philippines are from japan.. including seamless pipes po.. now not all are made in japan... some hi grade steel is already made in china but japanese owned ang factories.. iba po sir steel natin...

yes meron tayo gumagawa parts ng baril.. sa mirdc.. in bicutan..

pasensya na sa pics.. phonecam lang..
yan yung gawa natin... mga non-important parts lang.. mga handle mga kung ano ano lang na hindi kailangan hi quality ang bakal..
well maganda din naman foundry equipment natin to make these.. pero.. wala po tayo pang gawa pang timple pang cut ng hard steel... hi tensile steel..

pag pinilit natin gumawa ng makinang hindi up to spec.. guns na parang galing danao ang kalalabasan nun.. ikaw ba lulusob sa gera using danao guns?

i like filipino goods... but.. sinasabi ko lang po wala tayong kakayahan sa ngayon para makagawa ng.. buong engine..

like sa japan... kunwari ikaw ay gagawa ng... makina.. gawa ka lang ng model.. and design... . diyan magaling tayo.. design design.. hehe drawing drawing.. pag tapos mabuo ang design... block lang siguro gagawin nila.. or baka may contractor pang gagawa ng block for them... well.. most car manufacturers make their blocks since... simple lang naman.. mag foundry..then order na ng parts yan.. like valves... arms.. etc.. tatawag lang yan dun sa gumagawa.. kailangan namin ito specs.. ganito haba.. ito design.. para ilagay dito.. etc etc... then darating na sakanila yun.. then assemble lang nila.. dito saatin.. medyo wala pong ganun..

walang kwenta ang mines natin kung hindi din natin kaya iprocess into goods..
mga bakal natin.. specially last year.. alam naman ng lahat yan.. binibili papuntang china.. dahil tumaas presyo ng bakal.. and nagka demand..

btw.. hindi po proper gamitin intsik to refer to chinese people... rude po ang dating ng salitang yan sa mga chinese.. or tsino..

again, i strongly disagree with you thre billion percent, again uulitin ko lang ang japan walang steel industry they just import again import steel of all grades, kahit yung pang gawa ng kitana (some called this samaurai blade) nila imported iron ore yun from china! yung mga gawa sa danao recycled iron yun worst mga water pipes yung mga yun i just made it a point na kung kaya natin gumawa ng fake, that almost looks like the original it means we could do better! we can import raw matrials or better yet make a synthetic one.

[victorevolution]

* AC ang ginagawa ng japan is the import the raw material which is the iron ore na mura nilang nabibili then they process it na binebenta nila ng mas mahal at iba ibang grade.