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    #1281
    local builders don't make cars people wanna buy

    that explains their market share

    kahit gaano karaming pera ang ipadala ng mga OFW...

    as long as local builders do not produce cars people wanna buy

    they will fail to steal market share from foreign brands
    Last edited by uls; December 26th, 2009 at 09:23 PM.

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    #1282
    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    [SIZE=3]Let us be realistic, which one would the [SIZE=4]"pinoy" masses[/SIZE] would really buy?[/SIZE]


    The PHUV?


    or

    a Toyota Innova?
    If you are talking about "Pinoy Masses" they cannot possibly afford this two. Only the upper middle class (PHUV cost around 550K; Innova starts at 885k ) and rich can afford them.

    At the same time, the concept vehicle called "PHUV" cannot be bought because no one eventually produced it.

    In my opinion, the Pinoy masses can only afford this...



    from Dasmarinas City, Cavite.. owner type jeep and tricycle (green tricycle)

    or this...


    Courtesy of Sleepwalker of SSC and langyaw.com

    Cebu made jeepneys....

    or....



    Courtesy of OceanBreezein of SSC and Philippine-reisin.com

    Cagayan de Oro jeepney...
    Last edited by jpdm; December 26th, 2009 at 11:15 PM.

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    #1283
    if we are gonna be specific with terminology, most Filipino "masses" also could not afford those passenger utility vehicles which cost more than P100,000 each

    the true car of the masses is not a car

    it's a motorcycle

    just look at the number of "single" motorbikes on the road today

    i'd like to see LTO data on new motorbike registrations

    if there's a 5-year chart, it would definitely show an upward slope

    anyone with a job that pays a little above minimun can afford to buy a motorbike (thru hulugan)

    that's the true people's "car"

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    #1284
    So the PHUV should actually be a motorcycle?

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    #1285
    hehe

    more like the PHUV should be PRICED like a motorcycle

    haha



    --

    "single" motorbikes are so popular with the masses coz of price and availability of financing

    it's personal transport that's within reach of the masses

    it's not something the masses can only dream about but it's something that's really attainable

    brand new, pretty, and affordable

    an average wage earner can walk into a motorcycle dealer and ride home on his brand new motorbike

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    #1286
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    an average wage earner can walk into a motorcycle dealer and ride home on his brand new motorbike
    Then he'll be carted off into the ER when something goes wrong.

    tapos ginagamit pa as a family vehicle. Usually tatay sa harap, nanay sa likod, baby naka sandwich sa gitna.

    There should be a tata nano-like vehicle for the Philippines. Halos kapresyo ng motor pero at least merong 4 wheels at proper cabin (asa na nga lang sa crash safety though, and sobrang gaganda talaga ang traffic situation sa city pag nagkaroon ng ganyan)

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    #1287
    2010 na wala pa yung TSIKOT PHUV.

    2007 pa pina-plano ito. Puro drawing lang ba?

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    #1288
    no investors, no PHUV

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    #1289
    Quote Originally Posted by andywesteast View Post
    2010 na wala pa yung TSIKOT PHUV.

    2007 pa pina-plano ito. Puro drawing lang ba?
    Akala ko the Tsikot PHUV will teach how the local industry how to make a car. May RFID pa daw ilalagay. Plus hi-tech body design pa daw.

    Ningas Cogon lang pala. Since Page 1 hanggang Page 86 na tayo wala pa din.

    Pa-Meeting meeting pa. All Talk.

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    #1290
    it's unsellable

    either it's ugly or too expensive

    probably both

    if you build something ugly, you better price it really, really cheap

    at least people will think of even considering it

    they can't price it cheap coz the cost of production is so high

    they can only price it high to recover the cost and make some profit

    which they fail to do coz nobody's buying... not even at cost

    which leaves them with the choice of selling at a loss

    which defeats the purpose of going into business in the first place

    now you know why the smart money imports finished goods (think cars from China)
    Last edited by uls; January 2nd, 2010 at 12:38 AM.

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