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    It seems that aerodynamics were not a high priority in the design of the PHUV. We could therefore conclude with scientific certainty that the PHUV's coefficient of drag is equivalent to that of a brick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donbuggy View Post
    It seems that aerodynamics were not a high priority in the design of the PHUV. We could therefore conclude with scientific certainty that the PHUV's coefficient of drag is equivalent to that of a brick.
    correct!

    maybe he can do air flow efficiency for AC systems.

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    Hello everyone, my name is John Carlos. I've been following this thread for a long time now. Just recently a British supercar was launched- the Keating SKR. They say that the body styling was created by a Filipino. I think if we can tap this pinoy designer, the PHUV project can benefit specially with the styling.
    Here's some links to their website.
    http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/22..._supercar.html

    http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/videos/...ating_skr.html

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    Guess what? A simple research shows the Keating SKR was designed by Lagangan Automobile Designs, which is based right here in Manila.

    Contact Info:

    ph: +63-2 837-9033
    alt: +63-916-691-5089
    alagangan*cadcollaboration.com

    Since the email addy used is cadcollaboration.com, my guess is that Lagangan Automobile Designs is also based in Taguig.

    *dprox - possible for you to initiate the contact?

    *carrora - thanks for the info!

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    Quote Originally Posted by architect View Post
    Guess what? A simple research shows the Keating SKR was designed by Lagangan Automobile Designs, which is based right here in Manila.

    *dprox - possible for you to initiate the contact?

    *carrora - thanks for the info!
    Possible things to talk about:

    - Their comments (as professional car designers) about the Tsikot PHUV designs by oyil, ehnriko, donbuggy and foifoi05.
    - Their design for a PHUV with flat panels.
    - What 3d software they use.
    - How they do rapid prototyping.
    - Are they hiring designers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmb View Post
    wala ba tayong leader katulad ni mahathir mohamad na siyang nagpursige para magkaroon ng isang proton.ok
    What this country needs is a Filipino version of a Henry Ford or a Soichiro Honda. Men with vision who built an industrial empire from humble beginnings.

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    Sarao (Sarao Motors) and Francisco (motors) are almost like these great guys--Ford and HOnda...

    But they failed to reinvest whatever they have earned to uplift and improve their products.

    At least FMC came up with the Harabas, Pinoy and Anfra but was ravaged by economic downturns and government ineptness...

    I hope they can rebuild their firms and adapt new, modern and better technology to cope up with the new market...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OyiL View Post
    maybe he can do air flow efficiency for AC systems.
    Waste of time, effort, and ability. It would be better used in doing air flow analysis in the radiator and engine bay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donbuggy View Post
    It seems that aerodynamics were not a high priority in the design of the PHUV. We could therefore conclude with scientific certainty that the PHUV's coefficient of drag is equivalent to that of a brick.
    Actually, a brick has a lower drag coefficient than the PHUV.

    Anyway, if you design all the curves and angles with no way of actually manufacturing those same curves & angles, it would just be a waste of time and money. So if the current manufacturing capability on hand is all flat panels and straight angles, then so be it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    Anyway, if you design all the curves and angles with no way of actually manufacturing those same curves & angles, it would just be a waste of time and money. So if the current manufacturing capability on hand is all flat panels and straight angles, then so be it.
    Here is a design (PHUV Concept C1A) that uses flat and simple curved (bent in one direction only) surfaces and fillets:

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    parang innova ang dating...very nice...

    I hope a Pinoy firm will produce this...
    Last edited by jpdm; May 24th, 2008 at 10:16 PM.

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    double post
    Last edited by jpdm; May 24th, 2008 at 10:14 PM.

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    Sana magkaron ng car show na puro Filipino designs ang naka-showcase. The recent 2008 MIAS should have been a good show kasi madaming international visitors / investors.

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    ang gagaling ng mga designs nina ehnriko oyil at foifoi grave ang ganda nung tinapay at tinapay sport parang hummer eh.. hehehe.. ganda din nung boxy swb ni oyil.. hehehe

    Quote Originally Posted by donbuggy View Post
    Here is a design (PHUV Concept C1A) that uses flat and simple curved (bent in one direction only) surfaces and fillets:
    ayan mukhang zuki APV

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    The C1A shouldn't be compared with established manufacturers' vehicles like the Innova or APV. No contest. Basically flat-panelled lang ang C1A kasi. The C1A's competitors are the MVPMAP PHUV and the new Anfra.

    *JJCarEnthusiast,
    When will we see your designs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by donbuggy View Post
    The C1A shouldn't be compared with established manufacturers' vehicles like the Innova or APV. No contest. Basically flat-panelled lang ang C1A kasi. The C1A's competitors are the MVPMAP PHUV and the new Anfra.

    *JJCarEnthusiast,
    When will we see your designs?
    i have to scan it pa but.. i have a difficulty in drawing so i just drew the side please bear with me :bwahaha: maybe tommorrow i can post it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by donbuggy View Post
    Here is a design (PHUV Concept C1A) that uses flat and simple curved (bent in one direction only) surfaces and fillets:
    nice!,
    only prob is, if/when produced, it should look something out of a mold, and not the typical bended AUV.

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    Hi foifoi05!

    foifoi05, one of Tsikot design group's star designers, has returned! Where have you been? The guy responsible for the wonderful Tinapay and Tableta PHUV concepts. People smile at the whimsical Tableta without realizing that it is a clever combination of flat and curved panels. People react positively to it. They don't go "Ugh! Flat panels!"

    Actually the concept C1A borrows a page from the Tableta and the Tinapay. Like the Tableta, the C1A is also made of flat and curved panels. And both the Tinapay and the C1A pays homage to the Renault 16 roof treatment.

    The C1A may have a bit more complicated surfaces compared to, say, an Anfra, but I think the C1A is doable on a PHUV budget. For example - the C1A curved A-pillar and roof sides can be moulded plastic (or fiberglass or sawdust mixed with resin) resting on the steel body. The steel body carries the stress. The moulded plastic parts are just cosmetic and hides the flat roof and flat windshield.


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    Quote Originally Posted by donbuggy View Post
    Hi foifoi05!

    foifoi05, one of Tsikot design group's star designers, has returned! Where have you been? The guy responsible for the wonderful Tinapay and Tableta PHUV concepts. People smile at the whimsical Tableta without realizing that it is a clever combination of flat and curved panels. People react positively to it. They don't go "Ugh! Flat panels!"

    Actually the concept C1A borrows a page from the Tableta and the Tinapay. Like the Tableta, the C1A is also made of flat and curved panels. And both the Tinapay and the C1A pays homage to the Renault 16 roof treatment.

    The C1A may have a bit more complicated surfaces compared to, say, an Anfra, but I think the C1A is doable on a PHUV budget. For example - the C1A curved A-pillar and roof sides can be moulded plastic (or fiberglass or sawdust mixed with resin) resting on the steel body. The steel body carries the stress. The moulded plastic parts are just cosmetic and hides the flat roof and flat windshield.


    superstar? nyak!

    i like designing, but never really got into minute details like what youve posted above. Been busy on a project lately so had no time (architectural btw) , and i rarely visit here, no offense guys, but the site is heavy, hehe mainipin. So you know naman kung saang forum ako madalas.

    back on your work, yeah tama yan, and much better if it can be applied to every panels, parang classic nokia cellphones, anytime you can change the look of your car. Hmmm it also reminds me of a toy gimmick years ago.
    Last edited by dprox; June 11th, 2008 at 05:05 AM.

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    saw the dodge nitro at cats edsa showroom yesterday.





    its stunning yet simple imho. Just like the H3.

    pretty much gives me a phuv vibe.

Tsikot.ph PHUV Prototype