Engine design at accessories? kaya na ba?

[ghosthunter]

If you are looking for a potential 100% pinoy car today... you will have to look at electric cars. They are simpler to design and build.

[marg]

If you are looking for a potential 100% pinoy car today... you will have to look at electric cars. They are simpler to design and build.

Kahit Electric motor for cars, hindi kaya gumawa ang Pinoy from scratch.

[JJCarEnthusiast]

we have a lot of skilled engineers. what is lacking is funding and support from the government. so sad the government don't bother that much to spend for reviving our automotive industry.

[uls]

the govt doesnt have money

and there's no money to be made

if there's money to be made in producing a 100% pinoy car (on an industrial scale), then the private sector would have bet a lot of money on it already

[niky]

Designing an engine for yourself from scratch, and having it fabricated at local machine shops, is not impossible. Just assume that minor components like bearings, valve springs, valves, bolts, wires, ignition coils, EGR-valves, throttle and accessories will be off-the-shelf parts... to keep costs down.

Then use an open-source ECU, like MegaSquirt.

But designing such a thing, then making it production-ready and cheap enough to manufacture that you won't have to spend over 300,000 pesos per engine, while making sure that it produces enough power cleanly enough that you can use it for export... (not to mention the durability aspect)... that's something else, altogether...

Many small-time manufacturers have found, to their chagrin, that building your own engine when you're only going to sell a small number of cars, is a waste of time and money.

Only two major small-run sportscar manufacturer make their own engines... TVR and Caparo. Saleen, Gumpert, Pagani, Wiesmann, Noble, Lotus and etcetera... buy their engines from others.

And here we're talking cars that are expensive enough to pay for their own development. For major manufacturers, running on slimmer margins, developing your own engine from scratch is a huge expense... so huge that the Koreans and Malaysians licensed technology from Mitsubishi and Mazda to give them a technology base... so huge that Chrysler and Mitsubishi partnered with Hyundai to develop their current world engine.

[uls]

if there are locals who have the equipment, labor and expertise to build an engine from scratch, it's those well known machine shops like AER or Precision Automotive or Barleta

but why bother?

if anyone of them does build an engine from scratch, then what?

mass produce it?

50,000 units?

who the hell is gonna put money on the table?

who the hell is gonna buy 50,000 Philippine made engines?

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come on

what's with the pinoy pride thing?

Wanna build a 100% pinoy engine just for the sake na masabi na kaya ng pinoy gumawa ng makina from scratch?

it doesnt make sense

to make business sense, look for the demand first

go to some foreign car company with your prototype engine

assuming they are impressed with your prototype... offer them a good price, and get a contract signed

fly back to the country, walk into a commercial bank, show them the signed contract, and tell them you need 1 billion pesos

[marg]

The reality is, mahina ang Pilipinas sa Engineering. Sa Politika at Showbiz magaling.